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 Post subject: Re: Do you clean VHD Discs or Stylus?
PostPosted: 21 Jun 2018, 02:01 
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Experiment #2 - Madonna VHD I don't care about, same thing light scrub with Dawn and warm water then rinse with distilled water and dry with Norwex cloth and it seems to play fine. I guess there is no way to know if this is doing damage somehow but if I run across another unwatchable disc seems like I've nothing to lose.
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 Post subject: Re: Do you clean VHD Discs or Stylus?
PostPosted: 21 Jun 2018, 02:22 
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Experiment #3 - Little Shop of Horrors first play wouldn't make it through the opening sequence without bad skipping, I just ran it under warm water then rinsed with distilled water and dried with compressed air and it seems to be playing fine. I'm almost thinking some sort of rinse process might be best so you never actually touch the surface with anything but water.
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 Post subject: Re: Do you clean VHD Discs or Stylus?
PostPosted: 21 Jun 2018, 16:30 
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They may be playing fine now, but what sort of effect will all this have on the stylus in the long term?
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 Post subject: Re: Do you clean VHD Discs or Stylus?
PostPosted: 21 Jun 2018, 16:44 
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pbiancardi wrote:
rein-o wrote:
Do they have a coating like the CED discs??
That lubrication is supposed to protect the stylus, but VHD could have been made differently??


I guess that's the question. I'm playing and I even took some dawn dishsoap to the disc and then rinsed with distilled water and it plays perfect, now did I damage something??

I'm not sure I buy that silicone coating thing, I mean I have a turntable with a very expensive stylus and I don't think twice about wet cleaning my records???


I’m glad you tried this experiment and I’m thrilled it worked.

Records...are one chunk of vinyl with no coating. Totally immune to water %100. They also work by vibrating the needle instead of modulating by variable capacitance. They are nothing alike except for the groove witch is HUGE compared to VHD/CED. Records are probably the most durable, resurrectable format ever.
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 Post subject: Re: Do you clean VHD Discs or Stylus?
PostPosted: 21 Jun 2018, 17:07 
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Only time will tell.
Its not like there are that many films on VHD that are worth it, its more of a completest format and he won't be playing discs all day every day.

How many times can one watch P/S Return Of The Jedi if you own it on LD or just tape off the sides of your new TV with the Bluray :lol:
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 Post subject: Re: Do you clean VHD Discs or Stylus?
PostPosted: 21 Jun 2018, 18:38 
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Do we know for a fact that VHD (or CED for that matter) does have some protective coating? I know they are different than a record but it's still dragging a needle over plastic? And if they do in fact have this coating do we know for a fact that rinsing them in soapy water is somehow destroying that coating?

Also isn't skipping the stylus getting (violently??) bounced around? Isn't a smooth play less wear and tear than a skipping one?
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 Post subject: Re: Do you clean VHD Discs or Stylus?
PostPosted: 21 Jun 2018, 21:01 
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Soap would remove any film or oil or lubricant of any kind.

Also I don't believe it has to do with smooth or bumpy, its about dragging, since the stylus of any type is being essentially "dragged" across the surface it will
depend on what that factor will do in the long run.
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 Post subject: Re: Do you clean VHD Discs or Stylus?
PostPosted: 21 Jun 2018, 21:08 
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rein-o wrote:
Soap would remove any film or oil or lubricant of any kind.

Also I don't believe it has to do with smooth or bumpy, its about dragging, since the stylus of any type is being essentially "dragged" across the surface it will
depend on what that factor will do in the long run.


Think I should try just rinsing with distilled water no soap?
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 Post subject: Re: Do you clean VHD Discs or Stylus?
PostPosted: 22 Jun 2018, 13:30 
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My next experiment will be to see how different players handle skipping discs, do some track better than others?

The player I have now seems to be a lower end model and I have a later model higher end 3d player on the way.
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 Post subject: Re: Do you clean VHD Discs or Stylus?
PostPosted: 22 Jun 2018, 14:27 
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what are the models? is it another General one? I have 2 National ones but only the DP-30 works but I don't have skipping issues only a grainy image almost like a worn tape.
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 Post subject: Re: Do you clean VHD Discs or Stylus?
PostPosted: 22 Jun 2018, 14:55 
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xtempo wrote:
what are the models? is it another General one? I have 2 National ones but only the DP-30 works but I don't have skipping issues only a grainy image almost like a worn tape.


The General brand I have now uses a Victor stylus so it must be a Victor rebadge? When it isn't skipping the image is what I would call very good (Star Trek 2 and 3 except for being P&S looks better than some LD's).

The one I have coming is a Sharp which looks like a National rebadge??

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 Post subject: Re: Do you clean VHD Discs or Stylus?
PostPosted: 22 Jun 2018, 16:44 
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pbiancardi wrote:
the image is what I would call very good (Star Trek 2 and 3 except for being P&S looks better than some LD's).


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 Post subject: Re: Do you clean VHD Discs or Stylus?
PostPosted: 29 Jun 2018, 12:23 
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Update on all of this. I got the Sharp player in yesterday and it tracks noticeably better than the General one that I have. Discs that had skipping issues in General do not with the Sharp and discs that would not even start playing with the General play with some issues on the Sharp so apparently the player is part of the overall equation when it comes to skipping.
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 Post subject: Re: Do you clean VHD Discs or Stylus?
PostPosted: 01 Jul 2018, 13:15 
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This seems to work well, again not sure if it's damaging anything long term.

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 Post subject: Re: Do you clean VHD Discs or Stylus?
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2018, 02:04 
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Found a new stylus for the skipping player and all is perfect now so apparently it was all about the stylus and not the discs.
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