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Was there ever a HD-DVD player with HDMI output?
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Author:  dumbchemist [ 16 Oct 2016, 17:24 ]
Post subject:  Was there ever a HD-DVD player with HDMI output?
The title of this post is my question. I recently bought a Sony Bravia HDTV, model 32W600D and was setting it up for testing. In the process, I noticed that the set had 2 HDMI jacks and 1 jack with an adapter to go to 3 component cables. I also discovered that my Toshiba HD-DVD player, model HD-A3 has only component jacks for HD. Normally, this would not be bad except that to input Composite video I have to use the green jack of the component inputs thus locking out the Toshiba.

I was wondering if Toshiba made any players with an HDMI jack? I have a Sony Bluray player and it has an HDMI jack. Maybe the HDMI jack came out after my Toshiba player was produced or if the HDMI jack is proprietary to Sony?
Author:  substance [ 16 Oct 2016, 19:37 ]
Post subject:  Re: Was there ever a HD-DVD player with HDMI output?
I am pretty sure HD-A3 has an HDMI output. It can only do 1080i. All Stand alone HD-DVD players have HDMI outputs. Toshiba HD-XA2, A30 and A35 can do 1080p as well.
Author:  dumbchemist [ 16 Oct 2016, 20:16 ]
Post subject:  Re: Was there ever a HD-DVD player with HDMI output?
You know you are right. I did not see the jack since the player is on top of my entertainment system and I have to use a mirror to look at the back of the player.

Fortunately, my Sony Bravia can do 1080p.

In looking at the player again, I know why I could not see the HDMI jack. The lettering labeling the jack is at the bottom of the player's back panel thus not making it obvious. Also, the jack looks too much like a USB jack leading to more confusion. I tested the jack and it works very well giving a nice picture.

This post is closed.
Author:  nissling [ 17 Oct 2016, 08:09 ]
Post subject:  Re: Was there ever a HD-DVD player with HDMI output?
I thought the HD-XA1 could do 1080/60p?
Author:  samaron [ 17 Oct 2016, 08:55 ]
Post subject:  Re: Was there ever a HD-DVD player with HDMI output?
The Toshiba HD-EP10 has an HDMI output at least. It does 1080p as well.
Author:  elahrairrah [ 17 Oct 2016, 18:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Was there ever a HD-DVD player with HDMI output?
nissling wrote:
I thought the HD-XA1 could do 1080/60p?

I know the XA2 outputs 1080p

But the native resolution of HD-DVD is 1080i so it basically just deinterlacing the output.
Author:  substance [ 17 Oct 2016, 19:06 ]
Post subject:  Re: Was there ever a HD-DVD player with HDMI output?
elahrairrah wrote:
nissling wrote:
I thought the HD-XA1 could do 1080/60p?

I know the XA2 outputs 1080p

But the native resolution of HD-DVD is 1080i so it basically just deinterlacing the output.


Not correct. The native resolutions 1080p24/25/30 are supported. All HD-DVD discs except few are encoded in 1080p24. The first and second generation HD-DVD players have an early generation mpeg decoder that can only output 1080i60. XA2, A30 and A35 can natively output 1080p24.
Author:  lons_vex [ 17 Oct 2016, 23:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: Was there ever a HD-DVD player with HDMI output?
I have a handful of "native 1080i" titles, which is the japanese "Virtual Trip" series of BGV.

But other than that, indeed, all movies are 1080p.
I also remember some HD-DVDs would "downgrade" the maximum output resolution to 480p if
you did not use HDMI as video output, but Component. Resident Evil was among them iirc.
Author:  nissling [ 18 Oct 2016, 03:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: Was there ever a HD-DVD player with HDMI output?
Does HD-DVD really support 1080/25p and 1080/30p? Blu-ray sure doesn't so for such content it has to be coded in 1080/25PsF or 1080/30PsF.

The only HD-DVD I've got that's in 1080i is Planet Earth.
Author:  substance [ 18 Oct 2016, 04:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Was there ever a HD-DVD player with HDMI output?
Yes HD-DVD indeed supported 25 and 30 frame options although never utilized. HD had many advantages over Blu. Toshiba was developing 45 and 60 GB 3 and 4 layer discs but soon had to pull the plug.
Author:  elahrairrah [ 18 Oct 2016, 15:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: Was there ever a HD-DVD player with HDMI output?
Huh

Well thanks for straightening me out. I thought the format was natively 1080i. Don't know where I read that.

Maybe I was thinking of D-Theater . . . :crazy:
Author:  elahrairrah [ 18 Oct 2016, 15:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: Was there ever a HD-DVD player with HDMI output?
substance wrote:
Yes HD-DVD indeed supported 25 and 30 frame options although never utilized. HD had many advantages over Blu. Toshiba was developing 45 and 60 GB 3 and 4 layer discs but soon had to pull the plug.

Yeah, they did reveal a 51GB triple layer HD-DVD

http://gizmodo.com/228801/hd-dvd-turns- ... r-goodness

Didn't seem to help though.
Author:  alien [ 23 Oct 2016, 01:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: Was there ever a HD-DVD player with HDMI output?
elahrairrah wrote:
Huh

Well thanks for straightening me out. I thought the format was natively 1080i. Don't know where I read that.

Maybe I was thinking of D-Theater . . . :crazy:

I think MUSE Hi-Vision Laserdisc (which to those who don't know is bascially HD LD) was more or less the equivalent of 1080i, and was of course long before HDMI.

D-Theater could provide content in 720p and 1080i, and I think the very last D-VHS player made actually did feature a HDMI port.
Author:  nissling [ 23 Oct 2016, 09:19 ]
Post subject:  Re: Was there ever a HD-DVD player with HDMI output?
Yes, MUSE used a 1125 line system which provides 1080 visible interlaced lines. I think the signal format was actually developed already in the 60s.
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