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nextwednesday
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc with spanish language or subtitules? Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 10:53 |
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There are 140 titles in the database for which the primary language is Spanish. One of those: Like Water for Chocolate (1992) [2111 AS] has Spanish as the primary, English as the secondary, non removeable English subtitles and English on CC, too! At least that's what the database says. Can that be right? Why have non-removeable subtitles and closed captions in the same language??
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nextwednesday
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc with spanish language or subtitules? Posted: 28 Sep 2012, 10:10 |
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betocure wrote: WOW!! Thanks a lot! I'm really happy right now! I've found POCAHONTAS on my collection!! and, it's true! Spanish language in mono! I also have the Cabaret one, with spanish subs on teletext, but my player doesn't play PAL discs... By the way: I have around 300 titles, but I'm still don't take a look to everyone! Thanks again for the info! Cheers This is why we love the LDDB... Regarding those Teletext discs, I'm sorry to say that if you're in an NTSC country, then even if your LD player could play PAL discs, your TV probably couldn't decode the teletext captions anyway - a double problem. Here in PAL-land, our TVs do display teletext with the push of a button, but we have to use an external decoder to read NTSC closed captions. Whether those external decoders would decode teletext in a PAL picture, I don't know. (I very much doubt it. I'll try it one day and post the result here.)
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nextwednesday
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc with spanish language or subtitules? Posted: 28 Sep 2012, 11:43 |
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belturner wrote: CC decoders do not decode Teletext. As suspected. belturner wrote: Don't know if any CC cartridges existed for Spanish subtitles. Many NTSC laserdiscs in Thailand were provided with cartridges to plug into the CC decoder and you got Thai subtitles on US laserdiscs. They launched this in Belgium and the Netherlands too with Dutch subtitles but copyright issues prevented any further development. This device took the English CC stream from a decoder and converted it into another language? How did that work? Word-by-word dictionary translation? Sentence by sentence? I'd be most interested in reading more about this - do you have a web reference for this?
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betocure
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc with spanish language or subtitules? Posted: 28 Sep 2012, 16:53 |
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Well, I hope you can understand my english...
In Argentina, we used to have PAL system (in the early days: VHS for example; and regular TV too). But, with the DVD, in mid 90's; everything went down: Zone 4 DVD's (Southamerica zone) are in NTSC; so old TV's were useless! Suddenly every new TV were BI-Norma (NTSC/PAL), as well as VCR's... My actual TV (NTSC-PAL) have CC decoder, and pushing the button you can select: CC1, CC2, CC3, TEXT1, TEXT2, TEXT3... I don't know if these "TEXT" are for Teletext or something... Ah! Pocahontas LD with spanish subs: This "spanish" is latin-spanish; not spanish from Spain. Cheers!
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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc with spanish language or subtitules? Posted: 28 Sep 2012, 17:05 |
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betocure wrote: Ah! Pocahontas LD with spanish subs: This "spanish" is latin-spanish; not spanish from Spain. Cheers! this might be how most LDs are with "spanish" how are the DVDs, do you give you latin-spanish or Spain spanish? good luck with finding LDs that will help you out.
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betocure
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc with spanish language or subtitules? Posted: 28 Sep 2012, 18:28 |
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rein-o wrote: betocure wrote: Ah! Pocahontas LD with spanish subs: This "spanish" is latin-spanish; not spanish from Spain. Cheers! this might be how most LDs are with "spanish" how are the DVDs, do you give you latin-spanish or Spain spanish? good luck with finding LDs that will help you out. I think, yes, if these LDs are USA editions, they are for latin-american people, so it would be Latin-spanish. The DVD's (zone 1 -USA- or 4 -Southamerica-), they come with latin-spanish. I like original language with spanish subs in movies; but, the kids, they want Spanish languages! on Disney movies basically...
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publius
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc with spanish language or subtitules? Posted: 02 Oct 2012, 06:57 |
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betocure wrote: In Argentina, we used to have PAL system (in the early days: VHS for example; and regular TV too). But, with the DVD, in mid 90's; everything went down: Zone 4 DVD's (Southamerica zone) are in NTSC; so old TV's were useless! Suddenly every new TV were BI-Norma (NTSC/PAL), as well as VCR's... We would say "dual-standard". There are many PAL/NTSC LD player models. betocure wrote: My actual TV (NTSC-PAL) have CC decoder, and pushing the button you can select: CC1, CC2, CC3, TEXT1, TEXT2, TEXT3... I don't know if these "TEXT" are for Teletext or something... Yes, that would be for TeleText/Ceefax.
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betocure
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc with spanish language or subtitules? Posted: 04 Oct 2012, 21:27 |
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publius wrote: betocure wrote: In Argentina, we used to have PAL system (in the early days: VHS for example; and regular TV too). But, with the DVD, in mid 90's; everything went down: Zone 4 DVD's (Southamerica zone) are in NTSC; so old TV's were useless! Suddenly every new TV were BI-Norma (NTSC/PAL), as well as VCR's... We would say "dual-standard". There are many PAL/NTSC LD player models. betocure wrote: My actual TV (NTSC-PAL) have CC decoder, and pushing the button you can select: CC1, CC2, CC3, TEXT1, TEXT2, TEXT3... I don't know if these "TEXT" are for Teletext or something... Yes, that would be for TeleText/Ceefax. Thank you for the info. So I would try to get a PAL/NTSC LD Player. There aren't too much over here... even a lot of them are useless by this time. I have a Philips LDP600WS, but the laser is dead (well, I think so; when I bought it, the guy told me that; and it doesn't work...)
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laurikreen
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc with Spanish language or subtitles? Posted: 20 Jun 2016, 12:14 |
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BTW - Ceefax is different (old format) from later World Standard Teletext (WST) I want to buy external PAL TeleText (VideoText, TeleVideo) decoder with Remote. Unit like NEC VX-101A or NEC TX-101NZ etc. Needed is PAL unit with RCA - composite (or S-Video or SCART) in and out. Can be also universal PAL/SECAM/NTSC external unit from 90ties. Japanese NTSC units (NEC TX-1500; Fuijtsu-General TX-20/TX21) and US NABTS units (Panasonic TU-1000X) are not capable to decode PAL or WTS format. Also I can't use special units paired with TV tuner or TV set (using TV remote) like: Sony TXT-100G; Grunding VT1000; JVC VU-V140E/V150E etc. Thank you beforehand
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