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 Post subject: Re: Disney Will Never Restore Original Star Wars Trilogy
PostPosted: 27 Apr 2017, 18:46 
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According to the LDDb, the CED releases should be from as early as 1982-1986. Aside from the "Episode IV" crawl, the pan-and-scan, and the slightly faster speed to compress time, they should be pretty close to the original.


Thanks, good to know. I have 4, 5, and 6 on LD too ;but, don't ask me which versions they are. (I am too lazy to drag them out of their hiding places to find out. It is not a priority for me at this moment.)
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 Post subject: Re: Disney Will Never Restore Original Star Wars Trilogy
PostPosted: 27 Apr 2017, 19:36 
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CBS/Fox made 3 disc CAV P&S versions of A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back, (From around 1985 I think) I believe they were not time compressed.
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 Post subject: Re: Disney Will Never Restore Original Star Wars Trilogy
PostPosted: 28 Apr 2017, 09:13 
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I guess that means no THX 1138 released in its original form either?
In my opinion a superior sci-fi movie for adults than the Star Wars Trilogy.
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PostPosted: 28 Apr 2017, 17:18 
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I guess that means no THX 1138 released in its original form either?
In my opinion a superior sci-fi movie for adults than the Star Wars Trilogy.



No that is howard the duck:)
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 Post subject: Re: Disney Will Never Restore Original Star Wars Trilogy
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BLAM Star Wars website is always a great source of information!

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Of course, the stupid server is down....
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Of course, the stupid server is down....


It was up last night. :?
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It was up last night. :?


It was OK for me too when I copy/pasted the URL.

Hosting trouble?

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I'm not seeing it either and I just checked it.
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PostPosted: 29 Apr 2017, 02:57 
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sega3dmm wrote:
The Definitive Collection set isn't bad, per se. It's not perfect, but it gets annoying when UOT fans declare they are the highest-quality copies of the UOT out there when there are obvious problems with it, especially after 24 years.

There aren't any perfect transfers of the UOT that exist. From dirty prints, to shrinking ratios, from four-eyed troopers to breaking glass, from hodgepodge Frankensteins to lower-generation scans. It's quite an odyssey to find the one that suits you.


What would have been the best UOT ANH would be the 1992 Technidisc pressing... if it had been pressed by a competent company. That had a master just before the THX DNRing.
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PostPosted: 29 Apr 2017, 04:49 
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The DC and Faces Editions are the most accessible, but I prefer the older widescreen transfers from before the THX remastering. Despite the rougher looking prints, they have aged better and look superior when viewed on modern TVs and projectors.
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My turn to weigh in. I have Star Wars a ridiculous amount of of ways. Just about every way except CED. My favorite way to enjoy the UOT is on LD and are the JSC editions. To me the colors are better, yes I know they are a tad bit on the warm side but better than the green sickness of the SEs and muted DCs. Besides they just look so cool! I have the latest De-specialized editions and like them well enough but there is something about those giant 12" shiny discs that I really get to me. When I want to go all the way ultra retro I use my CLD 95 to a Faroudja NRS and feed my Sony 1252 CRT projector. :clap:

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Any way, that's what does it for me. Just remember, which ever way/version is the one you prefer, that is the one that is best for you in your room.
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It was up last night. :?


It was OK for me too when I copy/pasted the URL.

Hosting trouble?

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I was having all kinds of troubles with my web server and exchange server. No hosting troubles, the servers sit under my desk at home :) All is good now.
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 Post subject: Re: Disney Will Never Restore Original Star Wars Trilogy
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1993 DC edition is the only OT i own on LD. looks and sounds good enough (for LD) on my 1988 CLD-3030.

always did mean to get myself the original 80's CBS FOX versions as well, but never did get around to it.
nowadays i suppose they probably command a premium and all...
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 Post subject: Re: Disney Will Never Restore Original Star Wars Trilogy
PostPosted: 05 May 2017, 15:21 
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Any way, that's what does it for me. Just remember, which ever way/version is the one you prefer, that is the one that is best for you in your room.


Amen to that!

My favorite version of Star Wars on laserdisc is the old P&S edition (CAV version). I know P&S is not the ideal way to watch Star Wars, but the vertical resolution is really quite good... and there's no flickering star fields or DVNR! The nostalgia factor is also quite high for me on this one as it reminds me of the version I taped off TV in the early '80s!

If I had to pick a favorite widescreen version on laserdisc, I think I'd have to go with the FOX Technidisc pressing. It's not perfect, but it has least number if issues for me (no DVNR and no shrinking aspect ratio)... and the colors look perfect to me! Although, If the JSC didn't have the picture shifted up with giant Japanese subtitles, it might be the winner... but those two details are a deal breaker for me. Watching the JSC just hurts my head. I should really sell my copy to someone who would appreciate it.
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 Post subject: Re: Disney Will Never Restore Original Star Wars Trilogy
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Any way, that's what does it for me. Just remember, which ever way/version is the one you prefer, that is the one that is best for you in your room.


Amen to that!

My favorite version of Star Wars on laserdisc is the old P&S edition (CAV version). I know P&S is not the ideal way to watch Star Wars, but the vertical resolution is really quite good... and there's no flickering star fields or DVNR! The nostalgia factor is also quite high for me on this one as it reminds me of the version I taped off TV in the early '80s!

If I had to pick a favorite widescreen version on laserdisc, I think I'd have to go with the FOX Technidisc pressing. It's not perfect, but it has least number if issues for me (no DVNR and no shrinking aspect ratio)... and the colors look perfect to me! Although, If the JSC didn't have the picture shifted up with giant Japanese subtitles, it might be the winner... but those two details are a deal breaker for me. Watching the JSC just hurts my head. I should really sell my copy to someone who would appreciate it.

I'm able to shift the image down on my projector when viewing the JSC's enough to mask the subtitles in all but a few scenes. I'll have to seek out the P&S CAV as I too am fond of the full frame when viewing LD's, thanks.
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I've got both the P&S CAVs, I've only watched a bit of of Empire but it looks pretty good, and they have analog stereo surround (you get to hear the tie fighter flying around a little).
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Any way, that's what does it for me. Just remember, which ever way/version is the one you prefer, that is the one that is best for you in your room.


Amen to that!

My favorite version of Star Wars on laserdisc is the old P&S edition (CAV version). I know P&S is not the ideal way to watch Star Wars, but the vertical resolution is really quite good... and there's no flickering star fields or DVNR! The nostalgia factor is also quite high for me on this one as it reminds me of the version I taped off TV in the early '80s!

If I had to pick a favorite widescreen version on laserdisc, I think I'd have to go with the FOX Technidisc pressing. It's not perfect, but it has least number if issues for me (no DVNR and no shrinking aspect ratio)... and the colors look perfect to me! Although, If the JSC didn't have the picture shifted up with giant Japanese subtitles, it might be the winner... but those two details are a deal breaker for me. Watching the JSC just hurts my head. I should really sell my copy to someone who would appreciate it.

With some TVs and scalers you can shift the aspect ratio vertically and crop out most of the Japanese subtitles on the JSC. You can get the shape of the aspect ratio to look just about perfect doing this.
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With some TVs and scalers you can shift the aspect ratio vertically and crop out most of the Japanese subtitles on the JSC. You can get the shape of the aspect ratio to look just about perfect doing this.

Good to know! Unfortunately there still wouldn't be any English subtitles for Greedo though... which is still a bit of a deal breaker for me. But if I do find myself needing a new TV setup, I might look for one that can do that! Sounds handy in general!
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Disney made a complete mess with Force awakens and the last Jedi, so I hope they won't ever touch the original trilogy.
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