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edwin240170
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Post subject: Re: MUSIC TITLES NEEDED (JAPANESE RELEASES) Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 09:32 |
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Hi Vince,
I understand your frustration on the prices, however the best hint I can give you is to look and hunt for yourself, take (my favorite from your list) Foreigner, Super Rock '85, I bought it sealed, perfect as new - nice crystal clear white no yellow fading on sleeve - no rot at all for a fraction of the cost I have seen some people offering it.
Have to admit you have to be lucky to strike at the right moment with the right person. Have bought new discs for a few euro's where others are asking hundreds of euro's for the same title, often in a much poorer condition....
So the moral is to look for yourself and this might take years ... or spent much more money where others have done the hunt for you. And do not understand me wrong, do not think you can always buy that treasure for a few euro and find it in a few weeks, as you say offering a fair price will do a lot, to be honest.
Personally I am a collector, not a seller (anymore), I do not buy to sell, do I have doubles, yes I do (not from your list though), these I use for swapping against other titles somebody else has, so we can do business with closed wallets.
BTW that Foreigner disc I have seen several times on ebay, it is one of my favorites.
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mikematijevic
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Post subject: Re: MUSIC TITLES NEEDED (JAPANESE RELEASES) Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 12:11 |
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laserdisc_fan wrote: Hi Vince,
I don't disagree with edwin240170 and presumably your comment about high prices is aimed directly at me since I seem to be the only person with duplicates of the titles you are after.
Years before I sold any laserdiscs, I visited this site and was shocked at the sky high prices on many music LDs. I bought some but ultimately it was more affordable to do the searching myself as the mark ups from many sellers were astronomical.
10 years later I now own 99% of the music I wanted. It did take me thousands of hours of searching online, countless precarious deals, a number of false starts, a few scams and about 300 rotted laserdiscs but I got there in the end on my own steam.
Along that journey I found that even the best sellers didn't actually stock many of the titles I was after. That was one of the reasons why I opened my own store as there was definite gap in the market for the rarest titles which no one else stocked. The other reason was to recoup what I had spent with other sellers. I believe I achieved both goals.
So as edwin240170 says if you don't want to pay current asking prices do the work yourself. You'll definitely find them cheaper but it may take a decade or so to locate them. Just remember no one rides for free in the laserdisc gravy train so don't complain if you have to put some serious time and effort in.
For me personally budget was never a constraint. The availability of certain titles was always the main factor. I often asked the best sellers first to check on availability. If they didn't have any copies and had never seen them I knew those titles were rare.
Also the people who contact me with wishlists have always tried everywhere else first. I even tell them to! Some sellers have even tried to copy me occasionally on a few titles but I don't know of anyone with such a large duplicate inventory of the best titles. There is no one else out there currently.
Time is running out though if you want to contact me because my store on LDDB.com closes end of 2015. I have no plans to re-open it again at any point in the future as I don't need the money. Good luck with your searches though. Hi Colin, my "rant" was not directed to you. I was just trying to see if anybody else has some of these titles for sale. I don't judge the pricing. If you believe a title is worth 500$ is your right and since you don't need money you can keep it. Some titles are really mega rare, don't get me wrong, and when I say I am ready to offer a fair price for some of them I didn't have in mind 30$ but much more. And you are absolutely right that when one of those mega rare titles shows up if the auction doesn't end at your price, it is close though. I am just saying that If I have been able to buy 100 rare music that were worth 200$+ each paying 1/5 for a few, 1/8-1/10 for most of them and 1/20 for some titles, there is a BIG disproportion between actual price and lddb pricing.
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laserdisc_fan
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Post subject: Re: MUSIC TITLES NEEDED (JAPANESE RELEASES) Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 12:33 |
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mikematijevic wrote: I was just trying to see if anybody else has some of these titles for sale. I am just saying that If I have been able to buy 100 rare music that were worth 200$+ each paying 1/5 for a few, 1/8-1/10 for most of them and 1/20 for some titles, there is a BIG disproportion between actual price and lddb pricing.
Your wishlist is small and also some of those are not the mega rare titles so in theory someone else should easily be able to provide them at a knock down price. Has absolutely no one else come forward? Have you checked with Kevin - he can get some titles like those. If you serious about buying 100 then shoot me an email and we can cut a deal before Christmas. It will be the best and most memorable Christmas of your life.
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mikematijevic
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Post subject: Re: MUSIC TITLES NEEDED (JAPANESE RELEASES) Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 14:06 |
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laserdisc_fan wrote: When I buy even a $1 USD LD from Japan I endup paying almost $27 before I get it in my hand with no guarantee it even plays or the jacket is as described.
Why does it cost so much ?.....because there are handling fees, internal shipping fees, international shipping fees, credit card currency exchange fees. If the LD purchase price rises to over $10 USD I also have to pay commission fees and am likely to have to pay customs and excise fees for a larger shipment as the value will easily exceed the allowable duty limit.
It all adds up and I have to factor this in to what I stock and the risk involved. Generally selling anything for less than $50 is uneconomically viable if you also factor in Ebay fees and paypal fees. Someone working direct from Japan with access to the titles can hunt them down for dollars and avoid a lot of these fees.
So my advice is buy as much as you can direct from Japan. When you feel you can no longer obtain the others contact me and we can cut a deal on what remains. This approach will also help you see which ones truly never turn up and also the general going rate for the ones you are after etc. I know you did obtain some rare ones along the way....we all do if you keep plugging, but you also shared with me not all your purchases were bargains. You had to pay quite a bit for some and they were not always in perfect complete condition. Thanks for your advice. You are absolutely right about my purchases. I obtained some rare titles (Slaughter "Wild Life", Queensryche "Live In Tokyo", Saxon "Live In Concert", Enuff Z'Nuff, Bon Jovi "Tokyo Road", 3 sealed Cinderella, both Dio, both Damn Yankees, Journey, Warrant "Cherry Pie", 3 Night Ranger, 3 Winger) paying no more than 50-60$ for a few discs (except Venom) + shipping (purchased directly from Japan) but I also received some cracked discs (packaged perfectly) so of course there's always a risk. Unfortunately postmen don't handle packages like jewelry. The titles you can see here are the ones I miss and I have not found so far. If one day you feel you can offer them to a true collector (my steelheart collection is just a mere example about my passion in music) for a good price I am glad to offer more than anybody else in the market now during an ebay auction. Let's start with Slaughter Of course if there is a customer willing to pay 200$ for a single disc off the ones mentioned above, lucky you... Think about that. Christmas is behind the door. Grow your bear and make some people happy
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Post subject: Re: MUSIC TITLES NEEDED (JAPANESE RELEASES) Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 14:47 |
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substance wrote: So buying what you don't need, to use it for a later trade is a European thing. I don't know about European thing. It's just simple mathematics and about helping each other out. If you had to pay a lot for a rare title to a seller and subsequently spot the exact same title somewhere else at a fraction of the price its makes good economic sense to purchase a duplicate. You can either sell the duplicate and deduct your profit from what you had to pay for the initial expensive copy. In most cases this meant I got my rarest titles for free, very cheap or even with some cash in my pocket. It's true though money alone can't buy everything in life. I've found that some sellers will simply not part with certain titles no matter what price you offer them and this is where trading can help. Offer them a trade and that can change the situation dramatically if you've got some highly desirable titles to swap. I've traded titles with some of the best collectors in the world. Some of my most treasured laserdiscs came via this route so I highly recommend it. It is a very cheap way to grow a collection quickly. All of the people I've traded with to date I have remained in contact with as close friends. If they ever want something unrelated to laserdiscs purchased anywhere in Europe they just need to say the word. Price is no object for me as I would always return the favour. I've multiple trading contacts in USA, Australia, all throughout Europe, Russia and Japan.
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Post subject: Re: MUSIC TITLES NEEDED (JAPANESE RELEASES) Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 16:23 |
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laserdisc_fan wrote: substance wrote: So buying what you don't need, to use it for a later trade is a European thing. I don't know about European thing. It's just simple mathematics and about helping each other out. If you had to pay a lot for a rare title to a seller and subsequently spot the exact same title somewhere else at a fraction of the price its makes good economic sense to purchase a duplicate. You can either sell the duplicate and deduct your profit from what you had to pay for the initial expensive copy. In most cases this meant I got my rarest titles for free, very cheap or even with some cash in my pocket. It's true though money alone can't buy everything in life. I've found that some sellers will simply not part with certain titles no matter what price you offer them and this is where trading can help. Offer them a trade and that can change the situation dramatically if you've got some highly desirable titles to swap. I've traded titles with some of the best collectors in the world. Some of my most treasured laserdiscs came via this route so I highly recommend it. It is a very cheap way to grow a collection quickly. All of the people I've traded with to date I have remained in contact with as close friends. If they ever want something unrelated to laserdiscs purchased anywhere in Europe they just need to say the word. Price is no object for me as I would always return the favour. I've multiple trading contacts in USA, Australia, all throughout Europe, Russia and Japan. To me, it is a moral thing. I don't buy anything I don't need or want. Even if it's cheap, I still don't feel right buying, someone else who wants it more than me can get it. I helped many members here and elsewhere get great deals on items they have been waiting on a decent price. I could easily buy myself and flip or trade. I get better pleasure in helping people than make profit on those items. You are after some nearly impossible to find titles. You have a valid point in holding a few titles for a possible trade. I agree some people will never let go of some titles unless exchanged with something they want more. I don't have a desire for any of those titles. Maybe that's why I can afford to be not selfish. This is my way, of course. I don't expect anyone to do the same. I said its a European thing because I have witnessed more European sit on multiple copies of expensive discs than anyone else. I apologize if it sounded offensive. It was just my observation over the years. I would help you too if you ever need anything from the US, near Boston especially. I have read your posts for many years (nearly 2000 posts) and never read a single negative comment about you. You are an avid collector and contributer of the LD community. I have connections in eastern Europe, Middle East and China beside those you listed. Feel free to contact me if I can be of any help. This goes for any old timers here.
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mikematijevic
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Post subject: Re: MUSIC TITLES NEEDED (JAPANESE RELEASES) Posted: 11 Jul 2016, 08:39 |
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Found 3 additional titles so this is my updated wishlist is: Accept Staying A Life Anthrax Attack of Killer Video Britny Fox Year Of The Fox Bruce Dickinson Dive! Dive! Live! World Tour 1990 Hear 'N' Aid Stars Iron Maiden Live In Donington Iron Maiden Video Pieces Richard Marx Richard Marx: vol.1 Richard Marx Best of Richard Marx Richard Marx Hold On to the Nights Saxon Live Innocence! Scorpions Super Rock In Japan Sepultura Third World Chaos Slaughter From The Beginning The Cult Electric Love - The Videosingles Thunder Back Street Symphony - The Videos Thanks to some users who offered me honest deals on those. Gentlemen exist in the laserdisc field too
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Post subject: Re: MUSIC TITLES NEEDED (JAPANESE RELEASES) Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 22:15 |
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mikematijevic wrote: Found 3 additional titles so this is my updated wishlist is: Accept Staying A Life Anthrax Attack of Killer Video Britny Fox Year Of The Fox Bruce Dickinson Dive! Dive! Live! World Tour 1990 Hear 'N' Aid Stars Iron Maiden Live In Donington Iron Maiden Video Pieces Richard Marx Richard Marx: vol.1 Richard Marx Best of Richard Marx Richard Marx Hold On to the Nights Saxon Live Innocence! Scorpions Super Rock In Japan Sepultura Third World Chaos Slaughter From The Beginning The Cult Electric Love - The Videosingles Thunder Back Street Symphony - The Videos Thanks to some users who offered me honest deals on those. Gentlemen exist in the laserdisc field too Found: Bruce Dickinson Dive! Dive! Live! World Tour 1990 Iron Maiden Video Pieces Saxon Live Innocence! Scorpions Super Rock In Japan along with many others!
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