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 Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players
PostPosted: 05 Apr 2016, 16:56 
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yeah, there was just something special about the engineering at the time.

clearly, PIONEER's LDP design team were after a "Sexy" VCR-like low profile when they laid the blueprints down for the CLD-99S and derivatives.

they obviously wanted an LDP design that could imitate the look, feel and function of the then-brand-new high-end DIGITAL SFX VCRs,
and took it as a personal challenge to figure out a way to cram everything a high-performance DIGITAL SFX LDP would need
into as compact and stylish a package as possible.

i'd say they had achieved their goals with flying colors, as the 99S/3030 chassis is so compact, yet versatile,
that they had not only made a high-end LD-only DIGITAL SFX model from it, but a LD/CD/CDV variant,
a LaserKaraoke model, and a pro-grade Industrial LD-only model.

they had to design a nightmare of a high-density "VSOP" Video processing PCB to achieve all this,
but despite the overwhelming complexity of it all, the design HAS proven itself reliable
even after nearly three decades of age.

none of the variants in this series may boast the best overall performance of all the great many LDPs PIONEER produced
in the 20 year lifespan of the Laser Videodisc, but few other LDPs designed can approach or match
this series' virtuosity of cleverness in engineering and overall design...
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players
PostPosted: 13 Jun 2016, 20:06 
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MARANTZ CDV-770 appears to be built around the CLD-99S chassis. Observe the rear panel;


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 Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players
PostPosted: 17 Aug 2016, 16:09 
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someone attempting to sell their CLD-1010 in a -3030 shipping carton.

sure wish i had the $130shipped the fellow is asking, my 3030 would finally be well and truly complete,
and i'd be getting a 1010 to fun around with for the bargain...


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 Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players
PostPosted: 30 Nov 2016, 22:18 
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yet one more variant; (what a prolific chassis design) CLD-V180;

(presumably a U.S. version of the Japanese LD-K5 shown a page or two back)


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 Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players
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The model shown is actually an LD-V180 which was an LD only unit with analog playback & karaoke. Another model that used the 3030 chassis was the CLD-V190 that was basically a 1030 with the addition of the karaoke feature and key controller built in.

My first LD player was (and still is) a CLD-3030. Agree with everyone that it is a sexy machine especially because it is low profile. I had my unit modified with an AC3-RF output back in 1998.

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 Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players
PostPosted: 04 Dec 2016, 00:02 
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yeah, i've got the CLD-V190 covered on one of the previous pages, thanks all the same...
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players
PostPosted: 04 Dec 2016, 19:26 
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8cm CD SINGLE adaptor for CLD-99S/CLD-77, JB-CLD1;


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 Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players
PostPosted: 14 Jan 2017, 08:15 
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Here's a repair of the LD-V200 Karaoke player. Player's build date 1991, but it looks like a V2200 derivative:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LINmV6ZZ-qI
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players
PostPosted: 16 Jan 2017, 19:22 
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an unusual hybrid, 99S/3030 chassis overall, with a front bezel assy. apparently derived from the 1986 LD-838D.

the 99S/3030 chassis is such a work of high-tech design art, IMO. incredibly adaptable, with so much crammed into such a sleek, VCR-like form factor.

perhaps not the greatest wet-dream to work on, -from a technician's POV, what with it's complex, highly integrated main PCB design and all-
but damn if it don't positively exude late-80's high-tech sexyness...
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players
PostPosted: 17 Jan 2017, 04:07 
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I always enjoy reading your posts Tasuke because of the passion you display. Very cool.
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players
PostPosted: 22 Jan 2017, 21:39 
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thank you. for me, Home Video tech simply hasn't been any sexier than it was during that all too brief peak period in the late-80's
when it seemed every Japanese CE firm was fielding at least one or two superlative "Techno-Fetishistic" -looking TOTL/Near-TOTL VCR models,
-many of them SONY BETAMAX decks- and even PIONEER and the tiny handful of fellows offering LDPs were bending over backwards
to implement that same styling into much of their product line.

Formidable-looking gear, with scores of buttons and features, -however useless many of them might have been-
and equally formidable, key-laden beefy remote "handsets" that is precisely my sort of jam,
and was pretty much a last-gasp, short-term design fad amongst Japanese firms from around 1986/1988,
with perhaps a bit of carryover to about mid-1989 or so.

what a GREAT time to be an A/V enthusiast, especially one with money to burn,
though i could imagine how much fun it might have been to peruse CE shops and superstores at the time,
providing one could get the hard-sell Salesmen of the time to let them alone long enough to take it all in...
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PostPosted: 23 Jan 2017, 07:26 
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Great stuff. Are you familiar with the Japanese "bubble jidai" or bubble era Japan that a lot of Japanese today reminisce over? I didn't get to Japan until the late 1990s but apparantly a decade earlier, when those products you love were in stores it was an even more amazing place for consumers. I mean in 1998 people still had A LOT of cash and luxury was still big in Japan but compared to the late '80s it was nothing apparantly.

Truly so many products were released back then with no expense spared because Japanese people were willing to open their wallets and to a lesser extent the rest of the world was too. Even Australia had its own Daimaru department store in Melbourne and people used to save up for stuff to buy quality. Oh how the world has changed!
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players
PostPosted: 23 Jan 2017, 19:35 
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oh, i've been only too aware of that for a very long time, the amazing consumer buying power
that resulted in markets for no-expense-spared Hi-Fi components such as SONY's amazing CDP-707ESD CD player,
built to quality standards, and sold in quantities that would make the most dedicated and successful of today's "Boutique" Hi-Fi firms sick with envy...
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players
PostPosted: 12 Jun 2017, 21:29 
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a nice high-res shot of the CLD-3030 i figured ought to be included here. you'll have to follow the link directly to get the full size;


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 Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players
PostPosted: 13 Jun 2017, 20:36 
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tasuke wrote:
MARANTZ CDV-770 appears to be built around the CLD-99S chassis. Observe the rear panel;


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That is a lovely looking unit, rather handsome.

Love the huge remote.

Thanks tasuke :thumbup: .
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players
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I have searched but can not seem to find the changes between the CLD-91 and the 92?
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players
PostPosted: 17 Jun 2017, 18:34 
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i've long wondered about that myself. perhaps someone here owns, or might someday own examples of both,
and perhaps they might someday clue us in once and for all on whatever minor or major design revisions may exist between these two cosmetically identical Pio ELITE LDP models?
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players
PostPosted: 18 Jun 2017, 04:56 
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I think the service manual's on hifiengine - basically the audio section's changed (probably improved in the 92) and the comb filter was revised. Thankfully the 91/92 don't go through that for composite, since they're both complete garbage by modern standards ;)
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 Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players
PostPosted: 18 Jun 2017, 17:55 
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i dunno... the CLD-3030's a good couple years older than CLD-91/92... and it's straight composite output looks pretty damned decent to me, for a noisy SD Video format from the 1970's, anyway;

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 Post subject: Re: CLD-3030 Chassis-based LD players
PostPosted: 18 Jul 2017, 23:22 
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Really excellent thread tasuke, thank you for taking the time to showcase all of these CLD-3030 chassis-based Laserdisc players. :thumbup:
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