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Post subject: Re: To LX-900 owners (and any Runco LJR owners) Posted: 17 Jan 2013, 02:23 |
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dokworm wrote: Thanks for the pictures, using the flash would probably let us read the chip numbers etc. I'd be really interested to see where the board connects to the standard board, it would give us some ideas for picking up the signal.
Re the standard 900U, If they changed one of the digital ICs in the later 900U models then I would expect a revision number on the chip (like an A or a B onthe end of the number for example). It could be that they just bypassed the AGC.
A high res photo of an older and newer model should tell the story. There are about 10 connections to the 900's board and chips. The MSB board is mounted above the 900 board so I'd have to take it apart to see the connections, and the 900 has layered boards I'd have to take apart too, so I'll only be able to photograph the MSB board. There is a 900 schematic in the manuals section of the forum and it has the full schematics for the 900.
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Post subject: Re: To LX-900 owners (and any Runco LJR owners) Posted: 17 Jan 2013, 03:12 |
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Thanks I will check that out.
Anyone else here have a newer 900U that doesn't exhibit the AGC problem?
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Post subject: Re: To LX-900 owners (and any Runco LJR owners) Posted: 17 Jan 2013, 03:33 |
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dokworm wrote: Thanks I will check that out.
Anyone else here have a newer 900U that doesn't exhibit the AGC problem? The 1994 and 95 manufactured models don't seem to have it - the 92 and 93 do to varying extents. It's moderate on one of mine and minor on the other, but both have it and we're made in 93. Panasonic's own tests showed 7 to 14% APL error depending on the player and disc. Stereo Reviews 1992 test unit had 7% error.
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Post subject: Re: To LX-900 owners (and any Runco LJR owners) Posted: 17 Jan 2013, 05:02 |
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disclord wrote: dokworm wrote: Thanks I will check that out.
Anyone else here have a newer 900U that doesn't exhibit the AGC problem? The 1994 and 95 manufactured models don't seem to have it - the 92 and 93 do to varying extents. It's moderate on one of mine and minor on the other, but both have it and we're made in 93. Panasonic's own tests showed 7 to 14% APL error depending on the player and disc. Stereo Reviews 1992 test unit had 7% error. Did they mention how they did the measurement(s)?
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Post subject: Re: To LX-900 owners (and any Runco LJR owners) Posted: 17 Jan 2013, 19:31 |
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acuozzo wrote: disclord wrote: dokworm wrote: Thanks I will check that out.
Anyone else here have a newer 900U that doesn't exhibit the AGC problem? The 1994 and 95 manufactured models don't seem to have it - the 92 and 93 do to varying extents. It's moderate on one of mine and minor on the other, but both have it and we're made in 93. Panasonic's own tests showed 7 to 14% APL error depending on the player and disc. Stereo Reviews 1992 test unit had 7% error. Did they mention how they did the measurement(s)? No, stereo review just mentioned that they used four different test discs, and with LaserDisc, the APL measurment always changes depending on the disc since there are always mastering differences in an analog format.
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Post subject: Re: To LX-900 owners (and any Runco LJR owners) Posted: 17 Jan 2013, 20:16 |
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If we could get some photos of the older models to start with, then hopefully an owner of a newer one can take some as well.
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Post subject: Re: To LX-900 owners (and any Runco LJR owners) Posted: 17 Jan 2013, 20:26 |
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dokworm wrote: If we could get some photos of the older models to start with, then hopefully an owner of a newer one can take some as well. I'm sending my 1993 model to Duncan to be refurbished and have the AC3 mod installed. He's also going to try to fix the AGC problem. I'll ask him to post some images of it to this thread when he opens it up.
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Post subject: Re: To LX-900 owners (and any Runco LJR owners) Posted: 17 Jan 2013, 20:31 |
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acuozzo wrote: dokworm wrote: If we could get some photos of the older models to start with, then hopefully an owner of a newer one can take some as well. I'm sending my 1993 model to Duncan to be refurbished and have the AC3 mod installed. He's also going to try to fix the AGC problem. I'll ask him to post some images of it to this thread when he opens it up. Did Duncan think he could get a handle on the APL problem? I ask because he hadn't really dealt with it before and it would be wonderful if he discovered the problem and fix.
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Post subject: Re: To LX-900 owners (and any Runco LJR owners) Posted: 17 Jan 2013, 20:38 |
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disclord wrote: acuozzo wrote: dokworm wrote: If we could get some photos of the older models to start with, then hopefully an owner of a newer one can take some as well. I'm sending my 1993 model to Duncan to be refurbished and have the AC3 mod installed. He's also going to try to fix the AGC problem. I'll ask him to post some images of it to this thread when he opens it up. Did Duncan think he could get a handle on the APL problem? I ask because he hadn't really dealt with it before and it would be wonderful if he discovered the problem and fix. He hasn't committed to fixing it nor has he mentioned whether or not he has any leads on a solution. With that being said, he did say that he'd examine it, as he's never come across an LX-900U with the AGC problem before. Hopefully, I'll get some miraculous news that I have the one '93 model that doesn't suffer from it...
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Post subject: Re: To LX-900 owners (and any Runco LJR owners) Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 20:34 |
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He's also going to try to fix the AGC problem. I'll ask him to post some images of it to this thread when he opens it up.[/quote] Did Duncan think he could get a handle on the APL problem? I ask because he hadn't really dealt with it before and it would be wonderful if he discovered the problem and fix.[/quote] He hasn't committed to fixing it nor has he mentioned whether or not he has any leads on a solution. With that being said, he did say that he'd examine it, as he's never come across an LX-900U with the AGC problem before. Hopefully, I'll get some miraculous news that I have the one '93 model that doesn't suffer from it... [/quote] Did Duncan ever get your player up to snuff and add the AC3?
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Post subject: Re: To LX-900 owners (and any Runco LJR owners) Posted: 29 Mar 2016, 16:21 |
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rbf18270 wrote: He's also going to try to fix the AGC problem.
I'll ask him to post some images of it to this thread when he opens it up. Did Duncan think he could get a handle on the APL problem? I ask because he hadn't really dealt with it before and it would be wonderful if he discovered the problem and fix.[/quote] He hasn't committed to fixing it nor has he mentioned whether or not he has any leads on a solution. With that being said, he did say that he'd examine it, as he's never come across an LX-900U with the AGC problem before. Hopefully, I'll get some miraculous news that I have the one '93 model that doesn't suffer from it... [/quote] Did Duncan ever get your player up to snuff and add the AC3?[/quote] Check the threads around here, I believe that person is out of business and still holding on to many people's players.
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Post subject: Re: To LX-900 owners (and any Runco LJR owners) Posted: 15 May 2017, 21:48 |
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No, LX-600s never had this problem.
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