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mimylovesjapan
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Post subject: LD-V4300D DIGITAL OUT reality ! Posted: 28 Feb 2017, 09:55 |
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Joined: 08 Dec 2015, 01:43 Posts: 549 Location: Japan Has thanked: 26 times Been thanked: 56 times
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This is real ! Today I recieved my LD-V4300D. I connected it to my pioneer digital adapter (DA-1) via EFM out. IT WORKS ! LD-V4300D output digital ! And it is great ! And the video quality is quite impressing ! Smear is present, but less than my HLD-X0 (I definitively need to do a check by pionner...) ! LD-V4300D is a really really good machine. I can confirm it ! photos :
_________________ LD-V4300D (PAL/NTSC) CLD-959 (NTSC) CXUHD (DVD/BD/UHD/SACD) Lumagen 2144 (scaler) Collection
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mimylovesjapan
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Post subject: Re: LD-V4300D DIGITAL OUT reality ! Posted: 01 Mar 2017, 03:38 |
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Joined: 08 Dec 2015, 01:43 Posts: 549 Location: Japan Has thanked: 26 times Been thanked: 56 times
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I get mine on yahoo auction for 1000 yen last month ! maybe no one is using this after 1985 (for LD-7000/8000 series). Then it is very cheap ! You can find some on yahoo, maybe twice a year, for very cheap. (but maybe it will increase do to compatibility with LD-V4300D ^^) The DA-1 has very clear sound. I was impressed ! I pray for long use without problem !
_________________ LD-V4300D (PAL/NTSC) CLD-959 (NTSC) CXUHD (DVD/BD/UHD/SACD) Lumagen 2144 (scaler) Collection
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sjoerg
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Post subject: Re: LD-V4300D DIGITAL OUT reality ! Posted: 02 Mar 2017, 14:50 |
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Joined: 24 May 2016, 01:40 Posts: 297 Location: NY USA Has thanked: 18 times Been thanked: 29 times
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mimylovesjapan wrote: hey ! that's interresting ! what movie ? It's in License to kill, somewhat early in the movie, I think he puts in a CD upside down or something... I really like the look of the industrial players, reminds me of my LD-V6000. Build like a tank
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sjoerg
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Post subject: Re: LD-V4300D DIGITAL OUT reality ! Posted: 03 Mar 2017, 06:33 |
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mimylovesjapan wrote: thank you for the reference ! i will watch it ! Yeah, the cool thing was I was watching the actual LD of License to Kill when I first saw it! I'd seen the movie many other times but never noticed it before, probably since I knew nothing of Laserdiscs .. Anyway enjoy your new setup!
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mimylovesjapan
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Post subject: Re: LD-V4300D DIGITAL OUT reality ! Posted: 07 Mar 2017, 10:39 |
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now my objective is to test RGB out. I bought a RGB 9 pin to 15 pin. But the path was false. I have to find a better cable. 9pin to 15 pin with correct RGBHV redirection. An other point. My player is always doing a loud sound when the LD start to play. The same as kaflo talked about in the issue category for his HLDX9. The lens is certainly going hard rest each time the player start... as primetarget said. But I didn't really understood how to resolve this problem... HLD-X9 issue
_________________ LD-V4300D (PAL/NTSC) CLD-959 (NTSC) CXUHD (DVD/BD/UHD/SACD) Lumagen 2144 (scaler) Collection
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scytales
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Post subject: Re: LD-V4300D DIGITAL OUT reality ! Posted: 23 May 2017, 17:45 |
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Joined: 09 Apr 2016, 19:26 Posts: 37 Location: France Has thanked: 1 time Been thanked: 1 time
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mimylovesjapan wrote: I bought a RGB 9 pin to 15 pin. But the path was false. I have to find a better cable. 9pin to 15 pin with correct RGBHV redirection. Hi ! Beware the RGB output on the LD-V4300D put out composite sync on pin 8, it does not separate H/V luma sync. There is also a PAL/NTSC toggle terminal on pin 9 which shouldn't be wired unless the RGB output is used with a monitor which need it.
_________________ Pioneer CLD-2950 - Panasonic Quintrix TX-32PM11F CRT PAL and NTSC calibrated.
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scytales
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Post subject: Re: LD-V4300D DIGITAL OUT reality ! Posted: 06 Jun 2017, 17:01 |
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Joined: 09 Apr 2016, 19:26 Posts: 37 Location: France Has thanked: 1 time Been thanked: 1 time
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mimylovesjapan wrote: thank you ! I want to connect it to my OSSC. This thing ? http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de/ossc.htmlhttp://junkerhq.net/xrgb/index.php?titl ... bled_boardWhere can you find the wiring scheme of the input ? Apparently, this device support RGB both on SCART and VGA inputs, but I cannot find any information on the wiring diagram of the VGA input. To my mind, the safer way would be to built a Sub-D9 to SCART RGB quad coaxial cable (as SCART wiring is well documented) where the Sub-D9 pinout I just mentioned above have to be wired to the corresponding pins on a SCART connector : 1: non-connected 2: non-connected 3: non-connected 4: non-connected 5: blue ground 6: non-connected 7: blue 8: non connected 9: green ground 10: non-connected 11: green 12: non-connected 13: red ground 14: non-connected 15: red 16: non-connected 17: ground sync 18: non-connected 19: non-connected 20: composite sync 21: ground I would (i) leave the NTSC/PAL togle pin alone and pray the receiver is able to lock automatically either on a PAL or a NTSC sync signal and (ii) distribute the ground shield of the four coaxial cable on the Sub-D9 connector such as the 3 shields of the color signal unit on ground pin 2 and the shield of the sync is linked to the ground pin 1. I plan to build myself such a cable to try the RGB ouput of my own LD-V4300D on my CRT, hopping the input video processor lock automatically on RGB signal without prior switch signal.
_________________ Pioneer CLD-2950 - Panasonic Quintrix TX-32PM11F CRT PAL and NTSC calibrated.
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mimylovesjapan
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Post subject: Re: LD-V4300D DIGITAL OUT reality ! Posted: 06 Jun 2017, 23:08 |
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Here is the page where you can find a scheme for VGA http://www.ebay.com/itm/RGB-DB-9-pIn-To ... 1284109494I don t know what to do with the PAL NTSC signal... Normally it is the Vertical sync... Is it safe to connect it as Vertical Sync ? Or only connect Horizontal Sync...
_________________ LD-V4300D (PAL/NTSC) CLD-959 (NTSC) CXUHD (DVD/BD/UHD/SACD) Lumagen 2144 (scaler) Collection
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scytales
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Post subject: Re: LD-V4300D DIGITAL OUT reality ! Posted: 07 Jun 2017, 08:17 |
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As I wrote earlier, the luma sync is outputed by the LD-V4300D RGB out as a composite signal, with horizontal and vertical sync on the same lead (pin 8 on the Sub-D9 output socket). The RGB output on the LD-V4300D is RGBS, not RGBHV.
The PAL/NTSC pin on the LD-V4300D RGB out is just a 0V/+5V DC toggle switch to inform the display devices which type of video signal the LD player actually puts out. It is of no use, unless the display requires that information on a dedicated input pin.
I repeat that, for me, the safer way to test the RGB output is to built a Sub-D9 to SCART RGBS cable wired in the way I described above, because RGBS is implemented on the European SCART standard and, from the links I provided above, the OSSC does support RGBS on its SCART input.
It shouldn't be difficult to buy a SCART plug (or its Japanese equivalent JP-21, that is physically identical to SCART).
The only difficulty is to know if the video processor does lock automatically on RGB or if it doesn't and need a state signal on pin 16 on the SCART to switch on RGB. The only way to know is to give it a try by building the aforementioned Sub-D9 to SCART Cable. If it doesn't work, I think it might be possible to "hack" the output circuitry of the LD-V4300D to generate the required state RGB signal, but one step at a time.
_________________ Pioneer CLD-2950 - Panasonic Quintrix TX-32PM11F CRT PAL and NTSC calibrated.
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