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 Post subject: Re: pre outs
PostPosted: 19 Jan 2013, 02:42 
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never getting a bose, i'm convincing my mom TO not buy a bose for her bedroom.
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 Post subject: Re: pre outs
PostPosted: 19 Jan 2013, 02:52 
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Bose is pretty great at making completely packed things. Their Triport earbuds were very comfortable and sounded...pretty good. A lot of people like their noise canceling headphones. They are pretty nice...if you actually like noise canceling headphones, which personally I absolutely do not. The little radios they made for the kitchen and whatever are cool.

Where Bose kind of sucks is in their loudspeakers. They have the impedance of a cinder block, it seems like, and similar acoustic properties.

As for JBL, if I saw some floor standing speakers that cost $500 a piece or whatever, something in competition with other stuff I'd actually take seriously, I would certainly give them a listen. It's the $99 all-in-one bundles and bass cannons that I'm most familiar with.
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 Post subject: Re: pre outs
PostPosted: 19 Jan 2013, 05:16 
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telling my mom to avoid the wave radio and home theatre by bose.
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 Post subject: Re: pre outs
PostPosted: 19 Jan 2013, 10:23 
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I have no gripe with the Wave Radios other than the price being kind of high. The home theater stuff though...not a fan...AND its usually too expensive.
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 Post subject: Re: pre outs
PostPosted: 20 Jan 2013, 00:57 
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I thought about something like this, too.

I use a very old AVR and i'm still happy with it although it lacks all the new audio/video features.

So i think to loop in a new AVR, just like an effect processor is looped to a DJ mixer or in a recording studio.

I imagine it this way:

use analog and optical out as "loop out", and use 7.1 multi-ch input as "loop in" using the old as power-amp.

Is something like this possible?

And NO, i dont think about mothballing my old AVR or get rid of it, because it has AC3 RF-input,
enough analog and digital inputs compared with current ones and it perfectly fits with my LD-Player.

thanks in advance
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 Post subject: Re: pre outs
PostPosted: 20 Jan 2013, 20:19 
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jdeavs wrote:
I'm thinkin' you & I don't shop in the same places for our JBLs.

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signofzeta wrote:

As for JBL, if I saw some floor standing speakers that cost $500 a piece or whatever, something in competition with other stuff I'd actually take seriously, I would certainly give them a listen. It's the $99 all-in-one bundles and bass cannons that I'm most familiar with.


So, I was correct, then. I've never seen or dealt with the low end of JBL consumer products, but I'm sure they're out there & probably suck wind. I've worked at a number of JBL dealers for the last 25+ years, both pro & consumer series, and generally only dealt with the high end or vintage JBLs. For live PA/DJ work I've seen some of their cheezier series, though. At least 10 of the JBLs I currently use here are ~100 lbs. each, and another 10 or 12 weigh in at around the 50-60 lb. mark. And, I've sold off my larger speakers (EAW cabinets with JBL drivers).

Back on topic, a little- older AVRs with AC3 inputs + 5.1 analog outs can be used as surround decoders for newer AVRs that have 5.1 analog inputs, if you set it up correctly. Newer AVRs could probably be used to feed into older AVR's 5.1 inputs if the older power amps are worth the trouble. Probably tough to work out smooth remote control of a setup like that, but it could be possible.

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 Post subject: Re: pre outs
PostPosted: 26 Jan 2013, 13:49 
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Thanks for the information. I'll try it.

But most of the new "normal prized" AVR's are missing the Multi-Ch-In and Out connectors.
So i have to buy an older modell (from 2009/2010) that still has the connectors.
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 Post subject: Re: pre outs
PostPosted: 03 Feb 2013, 01:11 
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yep, the cheapest denon's lack phono, have very few inputs and no multi channel in/out. not even a pre-out for stereo subs via LINE-IN.
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