interestingly the AVR bridges the gap between my new pioneer purchase VSX10AHK which is BD/DVD and one I found at goodwill that is LD for inputs VSX454. Also came with 5.1 speakers and a classic 6-disc CD changer which gave me an additional 8 magazines (some different colors) besides the 2 I already have so now I have 10.The complete system Pioneer VSX-D308, PD-M530 with audio and 8 magazines, HTP105 5.1 speakers for $100 (semi-local, didn't have to drive far since we decided halfway)










will post more later...

possibly one of my favorite accidents

i've been a collector/enthusiast of PIONEER's six-disc magazine based CD changer player design for 15 years now.

since i first learned about them almost two decades back, i've gathered a decent little collection, based around the very first (and best made/most reliable)
ELITE/REFERENCE series CD changer model PIONEER had ever marketed, the 1987/1988 PD-M90X (( based upon the near-identical STANDARD LINE PD-M70 ))

fixed the rest of the pics

I am use to Sony's car magazine so it annoys me when I put the discs in and nothing plays. of course the discs are upside down.

have you used the 8cm magazines?

i've got that lone JD-M108, -that i had found NOS some years back- pretty much just for the sake of owning it.
i do not, in fact, own even one 8cm. CD to load into it, i have yet to see one in the flesh, even.

my PD-M90X was designed and produced right before the era of CD SINGLE, -such as that "Era" ever actually was-
and as such, the JD-M108 magazine will not lock into loaded position in that model.

i do, however, also own the first TOTL magazine CDP PIONEER ever made with 8cm. in mind, 1988's PD-M700,
which of course, WILL accept the 8cm. magazine, as it was designed to. again, unfortunately, i lack even one 8cm. disc,
so i've precisely zero experience with the sub-format...

the first 6 disc changer I found is a PD-M40 and has the honeycomb but the recent one doesn't also don't have any other pioneer that has honeycomb. is it rare? I mean limited to a certain production run and they stopped doing that?

PD-M40 was PIONEER's entry-level 6-disc CD changer model for 1987. that was the first year PIONEER introduced their "HONEYCOMB CHASSIS" methodology
for pressing their sheet metal chassis panels. PIONEER claimed it was an anti-resonant, rigidity-enhancing feature,
but in my experience, it leaves the impression of a lighter, thinner grade of sheet metal being used,
with the honeycomb pressing lending the lighter body an acceptable degree of rigidity.

the 1986 PD-M6, PIONEER's very first CD changer model, lacks any implementation of the Honeycomb Chassis design,
and yet it somehow actually feels heavier and more rigid/solid than the 1987 ELITE PD-M90X,
the first PIONEER CD changer to employ the Honeycomb Chassis design, and, AFAIK, PIONEER's first ever product incorporating it.

finally, BTW, the PD-M90X, as well as the PD-M70 and -M60,
all use the same reliable and beautifully built 1st-gen changer mechanism/laser pick-up that the PD-M6 employs.

1987's PD-M40/PD-M50 were the first models to employ the lighter built, but still well-made 2nd-gen mechanism,
and the infamous laser pickup whose lens adhesive so often fails, resulting in a dead but easily reparable player with a lens rattling around inside...

do you have a cd burner? you can try burning your own 8cm CDs http://www.amazon.com/Memorex-Rewritabl ... rds=8cm+cd

instead of buying pre-recorded unless you want to.

thanks, but 8cm. just isn't all that important to me. so long as my players keep on spinning up the standard CD
as flawlessly as they currently do, i'm quite satisfied...

wound up with a PD-M6 so I don't have any magazines that fit it. would you happen to know what model magazine that does?
Also fired it up and everything is blinking all at one on the display so I guess it might be broke?

Same magazines as all of the other PD-Ms I owned.

The 6 is also by FAR the worst-sounding CD player I've ever owned, so in my opinion you're not missing much.

je

I'm an idiot. it does fit. I will try to do a video of the display and upload it later to show what it looks like.

(( sorry, your video won't play on my end. i can only guess that your player is suffering some sort of mechanical or electronic disorder... ))


i too have a PD-M6. found it on the BAY back around 2007 or so for like $30/$40 shipped, a real bargain.

it came with remote, manual. both of it's original magazines, 6-disc and single,
and was the more uncommon wood side-paneled variant;

that looks nice with the wood panels. never heard of the single. Is it the same as the 6 magazine but for only one disc? is it common?

I can upload it to youtube if you like but it does seem to recognize a cd but none of the buttons work but the display is on the fritz anyway so it would be kind of hard to use.

the single-disc magazine was an included accessory on all PIONEER changer models up to the early 90's, mod. PRW172;
it is currently available from several sources on the BAY;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-Single- ... 35ed52f8d6

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-PRW-172 ... 1c56788ae6

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PIONEER-PRW-172 ... 58c86c413b

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-Single- ... 1a0242cafc


there were several models/revisions of the six-disc carts, i own examples of them all;

JD-M6
JD-M100
JD-M200
JD-M300

triple packs;

JD-M200TP
JD-M300TP
JD-M300KP

from the early 90's on, PIONEER revamped their single-disc magazine design to be 8cm. compatible, and sold it as a separate accessory, mod. JD-S100.
you can get NOS examples of the JD-S100 on the BAY, that is how i came upon my own;

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R4 ... 0&_sacat=0


New Old Stock examples of all models of the multi-disc carts are currently available;

JD-M6 NOS;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-JD-M6-B ... 58c7eafb9e


JD-M100 NOS;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-2-PIONEE ... 4880da5dce

JD-M200 NOS;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PIONEER-JD-M200 ... 4aea7811dc

JD-M300 NOS;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PIONEER-JD-M200 ... 4aea7811dc

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-6-Disc- ... 3cfc5a60c1

OK, i've had that issue before, it is easily fixable.

there are a pair of black ribbon leads from the PCB CONTROL mounted on the front bezel, leading to the PCB MAIN mounted on the main chassis;




those leads terminate in grey connection terminals on the PCB MAIN side. if one has come unseated, bare pins can cross,
resulting in malfunction such as that you seem to be experiencing.

you can reach in there, grasp both ends of the connector, gently but firmly pull up/out, and they will release.

pull the cables out, make certain all bare pins are straight as possible, and carefully reinsert them.
see if the player operates properly, if so, everything is properly set, and you can press those grey connectors closed once more...

will look at the player thanks for the links and info.
got one of the singles and also a remote that I was watching.
got this sometime ago hopefully it arrives next week in good condition

JD-M200

Awesome!! all the same, i strongly recommend that you obtain at least one copy each of JD-M6 and JD-M100.
their fit, finish and clarity of front panel labeling are vastly superior to the JD-M200 and later variants. they are both very nice indeed.

JD-M6 is the mid-80's original design, and my personal favorite. it has a very attractive anodized brushed aluminum decorative plate up front,
with a very sexy mirror finish beveled edge that shines in certain angles and lighting, and a very cool looking disc window on top;









finally, -lest i forget- the JD-M108 8cm. six-disc cart;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-JD-M108 ... 3aa849557c

I'm guessing Pioneer never built a cartridge-loading counterpart to the PD-707V, which has LD video circuitry for playing CDV-Singles in addition to standard CDs...