for the most part, indeed yes. even so, not everything that came out of that series was altogether rancid...

People who like OG Macross but not 7 are emotionally stunted children who only liked the original show for the robots. Just because Kawamori grew as a person doesn’t mean all the glue sniffing mecha heads will. They’re the ones who cry when the killing *stops* which is upside down. They just want to see the VF3 and the VF4 and the VF5 and VF6, etc and each season some alien race lined up like bowling pins to be knocked down by the endless chain of amazing robots. They want toy anime. Gundam Wing or Voltron.

I speak from experience as I used to be one of those guys. Yes, Basra is dumb most of the time. He’s also where the series went next. In Dynamite he leaves VFs behind completely and free dives with space whales and his acoustic guitar. Dynamite is worth suffering all the way through 7 for. It’s the “next level Macross” and the only true sequel to the original. It only works if you can relax about it though and I don’t think many gaijin can. You have to be lulled into that special kind of Eloi-esque sort of pacifism that only exists in one first world nation, Japan, which I certainly wasn’t when 7 came out. It took me I think until about 2005 before I really liked 7.

Ah no, I like the original show because it was an epic and at times gritty war story. It also had love put into it in the animation. Sorry I'm sure there are plenty of Japanese fans who also can't abide goofy space vampires, speakers on Valkyries and crappy aerial combat animation.

Just look at episodes like 18 of SDFMTV, Pine Salad. Slow down the animation. You have shells entering the armor of Q-Rau suits and splintering the armour into hundreds of shards, you have individual vents moving, you have a gorgeous aerial combat scene. When did you have that in 7?

When did anything good happen in 7? I guess when they find the "centre of the universe" at the end it almost got interesting and connnected to the original.

All a lot of fans (maybe not you) want is a true continuation. Macross II had it visually and in tone but no real connection to the fate of the Megaroad. They want the story of how contact was lost with it and the fate of its passengers.



Hahaha, that's hilarious, he simply took over writing, directing and controlling the franchise because no one else was interested in doing so. Turns out he's a hack writer, hack director and hack producer, if a brilliant mecha designer. Although he's only really had one ground breaking design. Talk about one hit wonder.

You can be "different to all the other gaijin" and more "enlightened like the Japanese" all you want, Macross still sucks now. At least I can think for myself instead of trying to "less gaijin" or "more Japanese" like you always seem to do.

Actually I know people like you, they're called weeaboos I think. You're definitely one.

while Japan can indeed be a very unique and awesome country,
it does have more than it's fair share of very significant cultural issues, just sayng...

Ok, voice of ignorance here, i know what a gaijin is..... what the heck is a weeaboo(s)...........
I get that it most likely is nonflattering ...... or is it lol

While I have never heard of the term either I did to a search and it's pretty funny.
Don't really know or think zeta is that but I was roflmao.

I think the story is great but more of the love story, love won, love lost love found love forgotten and even more.
I don't watch something like the original macross for the battles or anything like that, its a soap opera for kids and young at heart and let's really acknowledge that part.

such a weeaboo

Oh S**T .....

I am a weeaboo ! ! !

Will Weeaboo be the next star wars character????

Calling it now, Lando Calrissian will appear in episode IX so they can kill him off, too

because lol suck it fanboys right

i was gifted this guy from family the other day, really brings back the memories; the KENNER ESB original was one of my five favorite favorite action figures as a boy,
and this modern BLACK SERIES iteration totally blows it away;

I had never heard of this term either but I sure can think of better names for it.

I’ve definitely renounced my own culture, that much is true, and there is a lot I like about Japan, but I’m for sure not one of them. My weed intake alone makes me an antisocial danger to society by Japanese standards. I hate fish, have no respect for authority, I’m late for work almost every single day. They’d deport me on site.

Awesome posts all around !
Really like this thread and where it has travelled !

Signofzeta, you crack me up man !
What Japanese really have a problem with is gaijin walking down the street eating in public.
High form of bad manners, oh, and dont lick your chopsticks while eating ! NO, NO ,NO ! ! !

Also read that they used to wrap money in a paper covering while doing transactions.
Don't know to what extent this custom occurs now.
Woe to the person that is caught littering there, BIG MISTAKE.....
Its OK to p**s in public and get totally s**t faced with your boss though !
Just NEVER pour your own sake, your buddies have to pour for you. If you are ready for a refill you pour another for your drinking companion, tipping them off that you need that refill pronto......
Cool customs there.
Would love to go and poke around someday before i take a dirt knap !

Cheers mates

J

I don't like Japan, I lived there for many years on account of having no work in Australia. I like their products tho



That's a nice figure. I have the Tomy Marmit of it, great original costume

Was in Tokyo again last week-end for work.

Food is always a feast for the eyes!



Julien

Oh man .... they say presentation is everything.
It appears the Japanese have that method of food preparation down pat !

Looks too delicious !

WOW !