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je280
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc is back. Sort of Posted: 09 Mar 2018, 21:45 |
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daro2096 wrote: Was in my local Tesco Extra the other day and I was killing time by browsing the DVD/Blu-Ray/CD/console games isle and I noticed what was at first I thought was a Laserdisc release. It wasn't though but a Blu-ray release in a laserdisc like packaging. I think it was one of those Marvel films, 3 Blu-ray collectable release. Was it perhaps Marvel's The Avengers: 6 Movie Collection (Blu-ray Boxset) Catalogue Number:451-1036 as I think that came in an oversized box/cover. Might be sold out on-line from Tesco so may be one of the last still on the shelf. Cheers.
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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc is back. Sort of Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 05:33 |
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I though you were going to say that someone decided to make LD players but nobody will buy them as they won't even spend 100-200 on a used player now how can we expect anybody to spend 500-800 for a new player today
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daro2096
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc is back. Sort of Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 06:58 |
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rein-o wrote: I though you were going to say that someone decided to make LD players but nobody will buy them as they won't even spend 100-200 on a used player now how can we expect anybody to spend 500-800 for a new player today lol If I was I would have posted in the LD hardware forum.
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forper
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc is back. Sort of Posted: 11 Mar 2018, 06:51 |
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rein-o wrote: I though you were going to say that someone decided to make LD players but nobody will buy them as they won't even spend 100-200 on a used player now how can we expect anybody to spend 500-800 for a new player today I would, coz it'd be, like, new.
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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc is back. Sort of Posted: 11 Mar 2018, 15:18 |
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elahrairrah wrote: http://forum.lddb.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=6600 That thread also contains a link to a previous thread I made discussing the idea of 5” discs in big boxes so this is at least the third topic about it. I may have missed others. The Return of LD! (Or rather, the closest we'll ever see)The Gundam stuff actually gives you a decent case instead of a cardboard slot or one of those dumb black foam circles that falls off the cardboard after nine months. That series, Gundam The Origin, concludes in a few months with EP 6. It will be interesting to see what the next OVA will be and if they will continue with retro packaging in a new show (I just assume a new series is coming) or if they do their LEs in a different way.
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svwees
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc is back. Sort of Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 15:54 |
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Several factors, mostly cost. LP is much cheaper and easier to produce. The same goes for the equipment. 2nd: On a high end turn table you can squeeze the hell out of it, having very high quality audio, whereas with laserdisc you are stuck with a composite signal sd quality which whatever scaler you would use has its limits. Or you would have to revive muse, which i think is even harder and don't know about all patents or licenses from Japan for that you would need for that. Being able to find a way of someone or some corporation willing to revive 5" cdv would be cool, but how lovely it might be, you will end up with just a few minutes of video, so more of a gimmick as it was back then. For CD rom drives to be modded, it can't be done as the signal has to be analog. You really would need the equipment they used back then
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tasuke
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc is back. Sort of Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 16:56 |
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forper wrote: rein-o wrote: I though you were going to say that someone decided to make LD players but nobody will buy them as they won't even spend 100-200 on a used player now how can we expect anybody to spend 500-800 for a new player today I would, coz it'd be, like, new. and, in all likelihood, like any other modern A/V source component, it would be exceedingly cheaply made, cosmetically hideous in design, and rather short of lifespan, so, MADE OF TOTAL WIN. oh, and it probably wouldn't be a PIONEER, either, so there is most certainly that...
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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc is back. Sort of Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 17:29 |
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I don’t know why people keep saying that...”if vinyl, why not LD?” Are you so hung up on the fact that both of those formats are 12” that you can’t see that there is nothing at all in common between them? LPs are cheap to make and master and have never gone out of production. You can make them at home. LDs are expensive as hell to make and all the plants shut ages ago. The same goes for the decks, you can make a turntable in a basement shop, no way with an LD player. There are dozens more reasons why vinyl and not LD, the main one being the market size. There was probably never a year that vinyl sold fewer copies than the best year Laserdisc ever had. LD actually *did* die whereas LPs were simply considered “dead” when they only sold LD volumes! LD was only sold in a few countries but vinyl sold in probably every country on earth at some point from 1950 to now. There are shops in my town that have received new wax every week for decades.
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forper
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc is back. Sort of Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 21:02 |
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Good points Zeta but with China being able to fabricate anything (high or low quality, whatever you pay for) I wouldn't be surprised if a motivated and cashed up LD fan got a prototype going and a small release to afficianados. Something like the HiFiman.
A niche product for a niche market is definately possible these days.
Heck, once you work out the specs you want, make it a kickstarter, you'd probably make your money back.
New titles however I probably agree with, this new player would only be a legacy machine, to play back people's collections for future decades as old machines die. I can see a lot here buying 2 or 3 if the specs and looks (I agree Tasuke, that's important) were right.
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firehorse_44
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc is back. Sort of Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 04:41 |
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Wow ...... Learned something from this thread ...... Will no longer compare revival of vinyl to LD ever again ......... However, if I had the means of a certain Micro Soft founder ..........
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