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Post subject: VHS Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 06:26 |
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anyone collect it? can offer up any advice on picture quality/players?
I really dig this format, the same way I prefer video game cartridges to discs. Something about a movie feeling heavy appeals to me
I bitched about how pan and scan dominates the format, but I still would like to try and find as many OARs as possible. Great, great format, simple and cheap, just not as cool as LD, but I still hold a special place in my heart for it for all the movies i've seen growing up with it.
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Post subject: Re: VHS Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 12:58 |
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Good day gbpxl, My enthusiasm for VHS sort of dried up after I got into Laserdisc's in April of 1998, However I was going to keep the then top of the line Panasonic commercial s-vhs recorder, in order to record music onto good quality tapes, but alas this wasn't to be. I know I should have kept this player as it was a real beauty. D-vhs was also a great prelude to the now Blu-ray and the picture quality was amazing. I enjoyed reading your post Regards
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Post subject: Re: VHS Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 14:45 |
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When I got my first DVD player, I still intended to collect Laserdiscs, so I couldn't really see keeping space for a third format. So I sold off my entire VHS collection on Ebay back then (it was about 400 tapes or so.) I once considered collecting VHS big boxes recently simply because of the cool cover art (from labels like Thriller Video, Wizard Video, Midnight Video), but in the end, I'd rather put that money towards more Laserdiscs! Though you can check out some of the artwork I'm talking about on this page . . . A VISUAL HISTORY OF VIDEO COMPANIES IN THE 80'S
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Post subject: Re: VHS Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 03:58 |
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yazorin wrote: as long as your not collecting movies on vhs(pan and scan yikes) vhs is cool for tv shows cause they were all 4:3 I have to say, VHS looks like GARBAGE on my 32" LG LCD. It almost looked like it was posterized, if anyone is familiar with that photo editing technique. They sell VHS for I think 50 or 75 cents each at the Goodwill, and they probably had about a hundred tapes. God I just wish it wasn't Pan and Scan- I'd buy the whole rack otherwise.
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Post subject: Re: VHS Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 20:35 |
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yazorin wrote: vhs was probably the worst video format in all honesty I prefer them to DVD just because I don't like discs and cheap packaging
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Post subject: Re: VHS Posted: 15 Feb 2012, 22:48 |
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gbpxl wrote: I don't like discs and cheap packaging They lack the feeling.
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Post subject: Re: VHS Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 19:31 |
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What do I need to play a D-VHS, or VHD, or WVHS? Can I use my regular old VHS player?
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Post subject: Re: VHS Posted: 18 Feb 2012, 20:06 |
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gbpxl wrote: What do I need to play a D-VHS, or VHD, or WVHS? Can I use my regular old VHS player? VHD is a videodisc format and has no relation to VHS other than it was invented by VHS' inventor JVC. WVHS is an analog high def format incompatible with VHS as is DVHS. Both WVHS and DVHS units will play VHS tapes but a VHS unit cannot play W or DVHS tapes. WVHS tapes are not even made anymore... JVC tells WVHS users to use D9 (Digital S) tapes... D9 is a professional format for digital standard and high def recording.
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Post subject: Re: VHS Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 06:47 |
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thanks. looks like a D-VHS player is very hard to find
so am I the only VHS enthusiast here? I just think it's an awesome format. No disc changing required, compact design, and the tape makes it feel closer to film.
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Post subject: Re: VHS Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 07:02 |
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gbpxl wrote: so am I the only VHS enthusiast here? No you aren't, even when I'm leaning more towards LD's these days there's still at least thousand or so tapes that ain't going anywhere
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Post subject: Re: VHS Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 18:29 |
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gbpxl wrote: thanks. looks like a D-VHS player is very hard to find
so am I the only VHS enthusiast here? I just think it's an awesome format. No disc changing required, compact design, and the tape makes it feel closer to film. VHS problem is that in all three forms of "regular" VHS, the color resolution is limited to less than 40 lines horizontally and color is vertically blended and smeared from line to line due to the way the color is comb filtered and encoded. VHS HQ made the vertical color smearing worse. Plus, measured "flat", regular VHS luma resolution is only about 120 lines or so... The looser 80 lines per MHz makes it around 240 lines. Super VHS problem is that it has the same low resolution color and its luma bandwidth is too wide for the formats inherent noise level - they gave it more resolution so you could see the noise better. JVC's last "high end" VHS units, the 9000 series with the DigiPure circuit and Dynamic Drum can make most any tape look quite amazing. Not to mention they have excellent 3D comb filters with full chroma bandwidth that work great decoding LaserDisc into S-video. It's just too bad Super VHS can't take advantage of that color information, although the Faroudja chroma bandwith expansion circuit makes it appear sharper. JVC even managed to make VHS Hi-Fi work right and not require outboard DBX Type II noise reduction to make it sound decent. Still, VHS is VHS... You gotta love it for what it is and not instill it with qualities it does not have, like faithfulness to the original source.
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Post subject: Re: VHS Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 20:17 |
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yazorin wrote: vhs was probably the worst video format in all honesty completely agree. i always hated VHS, even when i was a kid, i hated having to rewind the tapes after watching them, and when dvd came along i was happy that we didn't have to rewind anymore. after re-discovering laserdiscs a few years ago, i wish my parents had an LD player a long time ago so we wouldn't have to rewind the damn tapes lol.
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Post subject: Re: VHS Posted: 24 Feb 2012, 20:07 |
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I have a fondness of VHS just because when I started really getting into watching and collecting movies as a young teen it was the dominant format. I was always envious of people on the newsgroups who had laserdiscs. I had a good collection (maybe 150 or so) and even though I tried to buy widescreen when available most of my movies were P&S. There is something to be said for watching a low budget 80's horror movie on VHS on a 19" TV although it's mostly nostalgia.
That being said I always knew how crappy the format was. DVDs started becoming popular my junion/senior year in high school and getting my first player in college was incredible. The jump from VHS to DVD was mind-blowing to someone who never experienced LD in-between.
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Post subject: Re: VHS Posted: 02 Mar 2012, 12:25 |
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I purchased my first LD player at age 15 or 16. I owned one Beta and two VHS VCRs in my lifetime (Beta being better!). Both sucked as ALL the films that were not filmed 4:3 were cropped (pan & scan)!!!! Format for
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Post subject: Re: VHS Posted: 02 Mar 2012, 21:23 |
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ohreally wrote: I owned one Beta and two VHS VCRs in my lifetime (Beta being better!). Both sucked as ALL the films that were not filmed 4:3 were cropped (pan & scan)!!!! You've had some tough luck in there, when thinking worldwide heaps of movies were releases in their original aspect ratio while those P&S versions really became widespread during 90's when stupid consumers started to whine about letterbox bars resulting those "picture formatted to fit in your TV" abominations to fill the markets... What comes to picture quality, here's some example screenshots from one of my rips I made back in the days, sourced from mid-80's beta rental with no additional filters or other enhancements involved: Doesn't look that bad to me...?
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