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Post subject: Wheeler & Woolsey Posted: 26 Oct 2011, 23:27 |
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The entire Wheeler & Woolsey catalog on Laserdisc is better than the public domain copies that are on DVD. The LD(s) that were released by TCM RKO classic series are really good quality IMHO. They were a great comedy team of the 1930's at one time as, if not more, popular as the Marx Brothers and Laurel & Hardy but they were hated by the censors and when Woolsey died, Wheeler was mishandled by the studios but made a comeback as a standup, they came from Vaudeville, and was loved by many of Hollywood elite such as Frank Sinatra and Bob Hope. Typical Woolsey one liner below ... easy to see why they never made to Saturday morning TV in latter years. WOMAN (coyly indicating her legs): Were you looking at these? WOOLSEY: Madam, I'm above that.
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Post subject: Re: Movies that are better on LD, or not on DVD/BD Posted: 27 Oct 2011, 02:13 |
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Many of the silent films released on laser have yet to be released. Wings, the first Best Picture of Year winner, has never been released on DVD but that is changing next year. The Covered Wagon, Napoleon, Peck's Bad Boy, The Wind, The Crowd, and a few others have also never been released on DVD.
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Post subject: Belinda Carlisle Posted: 28 Oct 2011, 18:28 |
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Belinda Carlisle: Runaway Live [VALC-3184]. I rented this Laserdisc numerous times when I used to live in Misawa Japan. Great memories of getting off work ... getting a Sapporo beer out of the fridge ... cranking up the LD player and enjoying the concert. The shop that carried it eventually closed down and had a big inventory clearance sale. When I showed up for the sale ... some lady had the disc in her hand However the Laserdisc Gods smiled on me and she put it back on the rack. I bought it and it's been with me ever since. Anyway ... I eventually purchased the DVD ... Poor audio/video. Strange, because the LD looks and sounds great. Who ever did the remastering job on this one ... dropped the ball big time.
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Post subject: Re: Belinda Carlisle Posted: 28 Oct 2011, 22:43 |
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condorsat wrote: Belinda Carlisle: Runaway Live [VALC-3184]. I eventually purchased the DVD ... Poor audio/video. Strange, because the LD looks and sounds great. Who ever did the remastering job on this one ... dropped the ball big time. I agree completely. Can anyone name even just one music DVD re-issue that is actually BETTER than the original laserdisc version in terms of audio and video quality? I collect many formats and I have yet to find a better source than laserdisc. I guess that is why the bootleggers love laserdisc for source material!
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Post subject: Re: Movies that are better on LD, or not on DVD/BD Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 22:04 |
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Now, I picked up Leonard Maltin's 2011 Movie Guide some days ago and there is information about every title's home release with the help of three symbols. Just below every title these symbols usually appears. If there is a triangle it indicates that the movie is available on Vhs, if there is a circle it indicates that the movie is available on Laserdisc and if there is a half-circle it indicates if the movie is available on Dvd. It appears that it's not difficult at all to find movies that are on LD but not on Dvd (or atleast not on Dvd in the Us) with help of this guide so I would actually recommend you guys to look it up, it's a fairly common book. Here are some movies that the book states aren't available on Dvd in the Us but on Laserdisc. I haven't looked up if all of this information is correct or not but it seems like a good source. Alligator 2: The Mutation (1991) All-American Murder (1992) Alienator (1989) Alamo Bay (1985) The air up there (1994) Agatha (1979) The Adventures of Tom Sawyer (1938) Call me (1988) Female Fatale (1991) The Fear Inside (1992) The favour, the watch and the very big fish (1991) Fast Forward (1985) The farmer takes a wife (1953) Family Prayers (1993) The Fabulous Baron Munchausen (1961) The Experts (1989, John Travolta is in it!) The ex-mrs. Bradford (1936) The Evil (1978) The list goes on, and on, and on, and on... Just ask for more if this list seems interesting. I'm actually planning to make a complete list with this book as a source. Would you like me to do it? Edit: HAHA! The book actually mentions LDDB in the guide for "Mail-order and online sources for home video". Now that's awesome!
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Post subject: Re: Movies that are better on LD, or not on DVD/BD Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 22:34 |
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nissling wrote: The Evil (1978) Umm, I can't find other than french release from database.
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Post subject: Re: Movies that are better on LD, or not on DVD/BD Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 22:55 |
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You could be spending a lot of time My list shows 2302 movies on Laserdisc not available on DVD as of October 2011. I get a new list once a month from the person I subscribe to his commercial Laserdisc/DVD/HD DVD/Bluray database. I think I'd get in big trouble if I published his list. His database only covers US releases so there are quite a few more international ones.... There are usually 20-50 movies a month that get removed from the list so there will be unique Laserdisc titles for a while yet. Georgio Moroder's Metropolis is one that is getting its first DVD release in the next month or so....
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Post subject: Re: Movies that are better on LD, or not on DVD/BD Posted: 02 Nov 2011, 15:00 |
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Just remembered another one; The Terminator.Every DVD version of this film has shown the opening text as subtitles when originally it was shown as below (screencapped from my copy of the LD) The text obscures the image but I think the subtitles are a poor substitute. If they had to remove them I'd rather they hadn't bothered with the subtitles. I don't know if Blu Ray versions have fixed this or not.
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Post subject: Re: Movies that are better on LD, or not on DVD/BD Posted: 04 Nov 2011, 07:59 |
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sega3dmm wrote: Akira - Criterion CAV Edition. Presented in original color scheme and original English dub (by Streamline) is included.
Sorry for the dumb question, but what exactly do you mean by "original color scheme"?
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Post subject: Re: Movies that are better on LD, or not on DVD/BD Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 11:05 |
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Honey I Shrunk The Kids has a animated short OFF HIS ROCKERS that is not on the VHS or DVD copies. Not even the Disney Shorts website has anything about this short.
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Post subject: Re: Movies that are better on LD, or not on DVD/BD Posted: 07 Nov 2011, 04:37 |
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naiaru wrote: sega3dmm wrote: Akira - Criterion CAV Edition. Presented in original color scheme and original English dub (by Streamline) is included.
Sorry for the dumb question, but what exactly do you mean by "original color scheme"? I can't speak for Akira but depending on how a transfer or restoration is done on animation (Disney is notorious for this, sometimes for better, sometimes not), they might redo some of the colors. If you have the Laserdisc of Disney's Beauty and the Beast and one of the DVD releases, that's a good example of colors being redone.
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Post subject: Re: Movies that are better on LD, or not on DVD/BD Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 10:19 |
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ynz wrote: Also There is the 12 minutes longer TV-version of Star Trek: The Motion Picture. That one is also (to my knowledge) not available on DVD/Blu-Ray. PanScanned, but still interesting. Is that the director's cut? That was certainly released on DVD, not sure it's made it to bly ray though. I've heard tell of a TV cut, but I'm not aware of that even being on LD.
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Post subject: Re: Movies that are better on LD, or not on DVD/BD Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 14:31 |
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hippiedalek wrote: ynz wrote: Also There is the 12 minutes longer TV-version of Star Trek: The Motion Picture. That one is also (to my knowledge) not available on DVD/Blu-Ray. PanScanned, but still interesting. Is that the director's cut? That was certainly released on DVD, not sure it's made it to bly ray though. I've heard tell of a TV cut, but I'm not aware of that even being on LD. It's a cut made for tv and runs 144 minutes. The extra scenes (12 minutes total) were inserted without approval of director Robert Wise, so it's definitely not a dir. cut. http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/23228/LV-8858-2A/Star-Trek-I:-The-Motion-Picture-(1979)Although originally filmed in scope (2.40:1), for some reason the film actually isn't too bad to watch in panscan! The later dir. cut. did include some of the extra scenes, but only runs 136 minutes (or something like that). But I disliked the new effects, so I only watched it once. Strangely, the BluRay-release is the old theatrical cut (132 min.). Apparently the new (dreadful!) CGI-efects were never rendered in HD. Too bad
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