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 Post subject: Re: Demo or Test discs post your collection
PostPosted: 29 Aug 2012, 01:23 
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Today I got in the mail, a Harman Kardon laserdisc used by the service person for installing and setting up the Harman Kardon VPM 500 projection tv. Quite interesting to find, and Julien has just put up a listing for it which I just updated. (cover picture will come too)

On the video they show the projector on the floor directed at the screen, or also ceiling mounted. Anyone ever have or seen the VPM 500 and what was the picture like for it's time? I imagine it would weigh a fair bit? especially for on a ceiling.

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 Post subject: Re: Demo or Test discs post your collection
PostPosted: 29 Aug 2012, 02:18 
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do you have a picture of the VPM 500, or is there a picture of it on the disc that you can take from
your TV and post?
sounds cool but seems very large, like the large CRT projectors.
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PostPosted: 29 Aug 2012, 04:28 
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My favorite (if I can ever find it again) is called "Always the Pioneer". It was sent to me by mistake by one of the engineers from Pioneer technical services. I was supposed to get a demo disc that had a good section for setting tint on projection TVs. What I got was a rah rah disc that used to play in the lunch room at corporate HQ. The engineer wanted it back, I kept it :thumbup: It's all weepy teary about how great Pioneer is, how great the product is and how great all the employees are. Features everyone from customer service to assembly line folk to sales people to the security guard. I haven't seen it since I relocated the shop about 6 years ago :(
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 Post subject: Re: Demo or Test discs post your collection
PostPosted: 29 Aug 2012, 04:45 
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No picture on the jacket, so I took some TV screen shots.
Here it is being ceiling mounted. Looks like 2 guys to lift it.


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 Post subject: Re: Demo or Test discs post your collection
PostPosted: 29 Aug 2012, 04:50 
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No good front view, but this with the cover off gives you an idea of the size of the projector, and the screen for it.


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PostPosted: 29 Aug 2012, 04:53 
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And close up of the 3 colour lamps.


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 Post subject: Re: Demo or Test discs post your collection
PostPosted: 29 Aug 2012, 05:52 
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that's a beast, check out the CRT topic, there is a guy in canada who has a great list of all the CRT projectors
listed, so it may be under another name or company.
it will be around 200lbs, i was looking into getting a CRT but i just can't deal with the weight.
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 Post subject: Re: Demo or Test discs post your collection
PostPosted: 04 Sep 2012, 15:17 
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Well I e-mailed Harman Kardon to see if they knew what year the VPM 500 first came out. They just replied 1986

So that's probably when the LD was made too.
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PostPosted: 19 Nov 2012, 03:27 
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Today I received the H0 reference demonstration disc. :)

The Reference HLD-X0: The Light Explores (1994) [HE-X0]

I just finished watching it on my one player, and the picture quality is excellent. Comparable to the Alaska The Last Frontier, and Ordinary Europe discs. I haven't got a X0 or X9 but will try my cld-1010 later.

Interesting the disc label is numbered and mine says copy 148 on it. Does anyone know how many of these were made? The disc has no audio on the analog channels. Also the disc has 10 chapters. Chapter 10 has colour bars and then some grey grid patterns for TV adjusting. The insert (mostly in Japanese) lists the video equipment used for making it. I can post that info if someones interested.

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PostPosted: 19 Nov 2012, 19:02 
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PostPosted: 19 Nov 2012, 19:03 
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 Post subject: Re: Demo or Test discs post your collection
PostPosted: 19 Nov 2012, 19:26 
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cool disc thanks for posting.
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 Post subject: Re: Demo or Test discs post your collection
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vinylcollector wrote:
The disc has no audio on the analog channels.

That's actually to improve video quality. There's a potential for interference between the analog audio carriers & the sidebands of the video signal, so eliminating analog audio allows greater colour saturation & video bandwidth. I'm sure they did that on the grounds that the player was good enough to show off the resulting improvement.
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 Post subject: Re: Demo or Test discs post your collection
PostPosted: 19 Nov 2012, 23:20 
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Thank's for explaining that detail.
I would love to know what the Japanese insert all says, but it makes reference to LD-S1 and LD-X1 in the wording, and the Software Production note Japanese as well. But this part is in english for the tech inclined what was used for the video.

Digital Betacam camera recorder.........DVW-700
3CCD color camera........BVP-701S
D2Composite Digital VTR........DVR-2
Digital Betacam recorder.......DVW-A500
Component Digital switcher........DCT-700S
D1component Digital VTR......DVR-2100
Computer Graphics........XL-1200
Special effect.....HAL
Digital Audio Tape Recorder......STELLADAT
Digital Audio Multi Recorder......PCM-3348
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 Post subject: Re: Demo or Test discs post your collection
PostPosted: 19 Nov 2012, 23:28 
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publius wrote:
That's actually to improve video quality. There's a potential for interference between the analog audio carriers & the sidebands of the video signal, so eliminating analog audio allows greater colour saturation & video bandwidth. I'm sure they did that on the grounds that the player was good enough to show off the resulting improvement.

So would this have been one of the sort of prototype LD-XR discs?

Or is it a MUSE disc?
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 Post subject: Re: Demo or Test discs post your collection
PostPosted: 20 Nov 2012, 00:07 
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Not sure about prototype.....I will let Publius answer that, but it's not a MUSE disc just regular NTSC disc. (I have no Muse player) The 2 countries filmed on this are Greece and Bali. You would think some of this video footage would have been put on a Muse disc but maybe not.
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 Post subject: Re: Demo or Test discs post your collection
PostPosted: 20 Nov 2012, 21:31 
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just picked up some National Civil Rights Museum discs.
NCRM Disc 2 and 4.

still sealed, if anybody is interested, they are in silver 3M sleeves with stickers on the back side to give info.
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 Post subject: Re: Demo or Test discs post your collection
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Bought the HE-100 demo MUSE disc a couple of years ago, still sealed in perfect mint condition, will post pictures asap

Front cover shows a HLD-1000 player

Side 1: Ordinary Europe CAV, 27 minutes, B-mode
Side 2: clips from T2, Basic Instinct, Atlantis, It's Real; CLV, 35 minutes, A-mode, in English with Japanese subtitles

The person I bought this disc from also has a MUSE demo disc that has the X0 on the front cover (not sure about the reference)
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 Post subject: Re: Demo or Test discs post your collection
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I wonder that Muse disc with the X0 cover is the same video? Or if it's different. Would be interesting to know.
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 Post subject: Re: Demo or Test discs post your collection
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hereby the HE100 pictures, I can confirm the Hi-vision version of : The Reference HLD-X0 - The light explores exists (same sleeve/content)


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