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marcham93
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Post subject: Do you collect ‘Pan & Scan’ Laserdiscs? Posted: 17 Nov 2017, 04:41 |
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After deciding to step-up my Laserdisc game, I’ve been taking the time to go through my collection. The majority of discs I have were purchased without research or second thought. I simply saw a title I liked and then purchased it.
But, now, my mind set has begin to shift. After going through my collection, I’ve noticed that about 25% of the movies I own are P&S titles. I’ve become so used to watching letterbox movies that I don’t know if I could watch a film knowing that I’m actually missing out on parts of it.
I wanted to see where everyone else’s thoughts on the matter fall. Do you collect P&S Laserdiscs or do you avoid them? Some of the P&S videos I have are big name titles like Terminator 2, Jaws, etc. My main thought is to sell them to my local store (it’s a place that sells LDs) for a cheap price and use the little money they give me to purchase more widescreen pictures.
Otherwise, I could also just keep the P&S versions until I obtain the letterbox variations, but would I ever watch them knowing they are cut offs?
Also, if you are against P&S but a title is only available in P&S on Laserdisc - do you buy it? I’m arguing with myself whether to at least collect those titles or just skip them completely on Laserdisc.
Just wanted to see where everyone’s mindsets fallen. I’m possibly just very picky, but maybe my thoughts fall in line with other collectors.
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sjoerg
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Post subject: Re: Do you collect ‘Pan & Scan’ Laserdiscs? Posted: 17 Nov 2017, 07:09 |
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It depends really, and not all non letterbox films are P&S, their actually a lot of open matte discs, which aren't always perfect, but really neither is 2.35 squeezed into a 4:3 box. I have a lot of full screen discs and there are some that look pretty nice.
There are also some director approved P&S LDs (I think all James Cameron, so your T2 disc might even be one)
And to answer your question, if a film I want is only available in p/s LD, in most cases yes I would take it.
Edit: I also have a ton of films in academy ratio as well, since basically everything before 1953 is 1.37 you'll find a lot of those..
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hippiedalek
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Post subject: Re: Do you collect ‘Pan & Scan’ Laserdiscs? Posted: 17 Nov 2017, 15:57 |
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elahrairrah wrote: (and sometimes seeing things that you're not supposed to!) First time I noticed this was the boom mic in the open matte home versions of the Princess Bride.
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marcham93
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Post subject: Re: Do you collect ‘Pan & Scan’ Laserdiscs? Posted: 18 Nov 2017, 06:58 |
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ruinatokyo wrote: not P&S per se for me, but I only really like 4:3/academy ratio/video for LDs because of the extra vertical resolution (anything wider than 1.66 looks pretty bad on an 80" screen from 7 feet away), so I look for films where no letterbox version exists, open matte versions, or where it was made in 4:3 to begin with. Interesting! I'm aware of other reasons for 4:3, which is why I specifically said P&S but it is interesting to hear your particular focus. Quite unique. hippiedalek wrote: James Cameron made his late 80s and 90s films with pan in scan in mind as he knew that was how they would most often be seen at the time. The original theatrical ratio is always definitive but at least with Cameron you know he's shot the film in a way that you're not going to lose anything important in pan and scan (in some shots you even gain!). I'm not sure what other directors did this but it cant' just have been him.
As for me I tend to avoid Pan and Scan laserdiscs unless it's unavailable in letterboxed, or more often the specific cut of the film isn't available in letterboxed. That's very clever of Cameron to plan ahead in such a way. ---
In the end, however, I think I've made my decision. I'm going to be clearing out all my P&S LDs that have LBX versions available. I remember watching P&S DVDs growing up because we had yet to purchase a widescreen television. Never understood why people would want widescreen at the time, but it came from the perspective of a child without a wide screen to watch on. Now that I've become so accustomed to it, and I've watched a few P&S vs LBX comparisons of films, I don't think I could watch films in P&S without feeling as though I was being cut short. Interesting to hear everyone's thoughts though! Super cool.
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laserdiscoking
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Post subject: Re: Do you collect ‘Pan & Scan’ Laserdiscs? Posted: 02 Dec 2017, 21:18 |
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hippiedalek wrote: James Cameron made his late 80s and 90s films with pan in scan in mind as he knew that was how they would most often be seen at the time. The original theatrical ratio is always definitive but at least with Cameron you know he's shot the film in a way that you're not going to lose anything important in pan and scan (in some shots you even gain!). I'm not sure what other directors did this but it cant' just have been him.
I also think this is the case for all movies shot in Super 35. Top Gun and Black Rain add a lot to the top and bottom and not much is cropped from the sides on the P&S versions. I think the P&S versions of some Stanley Kubrick films do this as well, like Barry Lyndon. I used to have a list of movies where the P&S versions of films on LD added more picture information than the letterboxed versions but I can't find it.
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