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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2019, 03:04 
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Zeta, what would you say are some of the best looking anime discs of GOOD movies/oavs? Disregarding DYRL and GITS as I already have those.


Let’s just make this thread about good picture quality anime LDs regardless of the quality of the program since it’s unlikely to get out of hand either way.

The aforementioned Ghost in the Shell: Premium Box (1995) [BEAL-921] set is a good one. While they did use cels on this movie the master was digital so it has that going for it. It’s also multilingual.

Picture quality on Macross The movie : Perfect Edition (1984) [BEAL-448] isn’t super awesome, IMHO but it’s pretty good. It’s certainly a must have disc. The CAV functionality alone makes it an essential Macross fan item. A movie worth watching at 1/8 speed if there ever was one.

Bubblegum Crisis: Complete Collection (1987) [BVLL-539] is one I picked up a few years ago having completely missed it back in the day. Picture quality is WAY better than the 80s pressings or the Animego versions. Everything is included, even the Bali video. Even the book is good. Easily one of the best box sets out there. Again, video quality is as good as it gets here. I can’t stress that enough.

One of the biggest box sets out there that isn’t a TV series or sports is Ghibli Ga Ippai Collection (1996) [TKLO-50180]. Again video quality here is superb. Publius was under the impression that the remaster was done in HiVision for a never released edition on that format (lord, can you even imagine what that would have cost? Then or now?) but only a regular NTSC release made it. There isn’t a lot of printed material in the white satin wrapped box with foil letters but what is inside is every Ghibli movie then ever released plus Nausicaa, the TV special I Can Hear the Ocean, the On Your Mark music video, a ton of random TV promos they did. There is also a Making Of for the movie Only Yesterday and a literal fireside chat with Miyazaki and the actual holy s**t OMG Akira Kurosawa. Damn! This is my favorite box set ever. The covers are all new. Whisper of the Heart and On Your Mark have their theatrical 5.1. Dolby tracks now. All discs have new art. Mononoke isn’t on here since that came out later. IMO it doesn’t belong here. It belongs in some Blu-ray box that begins with that movie, IMO.

If you get a first print version of Mobile Suit Gundam: Memorial Box Part 1 [BELL-1201] it will come with a big outer box to also house Mobile Suit Gundam: Memorial Box Part 2 [BELL-1202] giving you a massive box. This was, amazingly, the first time the TV version of Gundam was ever for sale. (Most fandom was and is focused on the compilation movies). Being released in the Winter of 98/99 you’d be right in assuming they made an HD master for this and use the same thing for the DVD. The covers are VERY pretty in this one. All new cel art (digital cels anyway...) which was also reused for the DVDs but here it’s all square and massive like it should be. This show doesn’t have the most amazingly clean animation ever seen but the video quality of this release is as good as it could possibly be, I’m pretty sure. The packaging is first rate as well. One thing I like about Bandai’s Gundam TV release is that in the gatefold there are chapter marks and screen shots of every episode on those discs so if you’re looking for that scene where your third favorite character dies is way easier to find than it would be with more modern packaging.

Speaking of Gundam, video quality varies with theatrical and TV releases. Char’s Counterattack kinda sucks, sadly. Usually the OVAs are pretty nice. With 0083 they made a big deal about using D2 tape and it’s in CAV so quality is super high. Every episode is available individually starting with the Boobytrap long Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory vol.01 (1991) [BEAL-421]. The earlier OVA, 0080, has a different sort of feel to it. Whereas 0083 was about quick action and...a lot of robots...0080 is more subtle. There’s a lot of detail to the backgrounds and stuff and it shines as an LD in a different sort of way. That word people use a lot here, “filmic” really applies.

I’m sure we can add a bunch more.


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 Post subject: Re: Best Picture Quality Anime LDs
PostPosted: 05 Feb 2019, 03:33 
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I don't really know how much better the transfer was from the first Japanese language only set but this was an amazing pressing: Akira: Special Collection (1988) [PILA-1086]

Another super clean amazing transfer is the box set: Space Adventure Cobra: The Movie (1982) [BEAL-417]
This release is the exact same pressing: Space Adventure Cobra: The Movie (1982) [JSLA-22299]

This is also a super clean transfer, so much so that I was in doubt that it was really a movie from the late 1960s:Cyborg 009: The Movie (1966) [LSTD01168]

I felt that the Macross CAV box set was a really good pressing.
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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2019, 03:44 
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I love the BD of BGC but if I see the LD pop up for sale I will keep that in mind.

Unfortunately I don't have all that much anime on LD at this point. I do have LDs of a crappy anime (b*****d) coming as I want to direct compare them to the horrid US DVD release. I imagine they will be better, in which case I would rip and add subtitles.

There is plenty I want to get but it will be a waiting game of some volumes even coming up for sale, from the look of things currently.
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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2019, 10:32 
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Talking about great transfers that I enjoy watching this OVA comes to mind:
Hekiru Shiina: Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou: vol.1 (1998) [SRLM 5628]
and Hekiru Shiina: Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou: vol.2 [SRLM 5643]
Also most of the late pressing category stuff seems to look close to perfect, just thinking about Betterman and Bubblegum Crisis 2040. Boogiepop Phantom just got a new installment in Japan, I should re-watch the 2000 OVA one of these days, really liked it back in the day, and the LD's were absolutely flawless.
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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2019, 20:32 
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lons_vex wrote:


These are really OVAs? with animation?

I have one of Shiina's live LDs, Starting Legend Dash.
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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2019, 23:06 
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I forgot to mention that while Macross 7 isn’t for everyone Macross Dynamite 7: vol.1 Wonder (1997) [BEAL-1057] and the other episodes have maybe the best looking anime LD video of all thanks to the extremely bright colors used and all digital production. All the crazy energy beams and space whales spouting spiritua or whatever will really light up your TV. The packaging is really nice too with the usual paper case being the backgrounds and a sort of manufactured cel thing with the characters around it on the outside of that. It’s similar to Miller’s Report and some other stuff from that time. I think LD sales were down already so they are thinking of ways to make LD more atttactive.

I feel like I should say that, even more so than with live action, the more brilliantly vibrant the color is the more noise you see on anime LDs. So if you have a high end setup Mononoke Hime might look amazing but if you have a Laseractive and a Jenson 27” CRT you may think it looks like crap.

So I guess we have the subtly beautiful soft filmic whatever stuff. The sometimes accidentally fantastic pressings. And then we have the hyper rich mid 90s and later stuff that benefited from digital mastering if not totally digital production which made a lot of noise, especially in the reds, but looks great on a clean setup.

Most of the stuff I’ve been listing is of the later variety. Dynamite 7 totally is.

Now something that’s from the other direction...the first Tenchi Muyo series (stick with me here!) was basically made because Pioneer loved pressing anime LDs and wanted to do more. They made themselves an anime imprint and greenlit a bunch of projects from new tallent with low prices per episode and regular schedules. Basically they acted like grown ups instead of working mad to make Birth or T-oy just to go out of business the next day.

It is my opinion that the desaturated color pallet of the first TM series was chosen because it naturally looked good on LD. You rarely see that noisy over saturated red. It looks good, even though at this point is hard to imagine anyone still having patience for this show. The first OVA series and the two specials were pretty good. Maybe the first movie, which has its charms. After that it was hundreds more episodes of mediocre crap.

The US ones have a dub track, CCs, and another set of inserts in English but crappy thin American style covers. The JP ones have real paper jackets. It’s possible the JP ones have slightly better video in some scenes but I don’t think so, not by much anyway.

I haven’t seen Ihatob Illusion: Kenji No Haru (Kenji's Spring) [BELL-1002] since my friend’s brother bought it new. I remember it being very good video-wise and that’s probably true. It’s a great movie also.
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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2019, 23:54 
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forper wrote:
These are really OVAs? with animation?

I have one of Shiina's live LDs, Starting Legend Dash.


She is voice acting the main character of the show.
Complete anime, no live action segments.
Really popular manga too, well worth a try.
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=586
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