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takeshi666
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Post subject: Re: Macross News Posted: 09 Apr 2021, 03:01 |
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rcarlson wrote: Well there's something I never thought would happen. This is kind of like the anime equivalent of the Good Friday Agreement.
Fingers crossed for Macross Plus and DYRL on blu-ray over here. Definitely looking forward to DYRL subtitles that aren't fansubs. Or dare I say it, a new dub? Considering this is still Harmony Gold we're talking about, I'm honestly not keeping my hopes up.
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forper
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Post subject: Re: Macross News Posted: 09 Apr 2021, 03:55 |
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rcarlson wrote: Well there's something I never thought would happen. This is kind of like the anime equivalent of the Good Friday Agreement.
Fingers crossed for Macross Plus and DYRL on blu-ray over here. Definitely looking forward to DYRL subtitles that aren't fansubs. Or dare I say it, a new dub? What's wrong with fansubs? Often more accurate than official ones. There are excellent DVD transfers with subs that have been available for years out of Hong Kong. I have 5 versions of the movie. The best one is still easily the CAV Perfect Edition LD box, the first LD title I ever bought in 2000. The next best is the Hong Kong DVD by a company called "fx". The Japanese blu ray is cut for violence. The Japanese DVD was scrubbed for grain. The ultimate for non Japanese speakers is still the CAV LD with overlayed fansubs. I doubt Harmony Gold is going to do better than any of these. Then again did Japan get a DRYL? UHD yet? I've been very impressed with UHD so far, unlike blu ray which totally never blew me away.
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takeshi666
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Post subject: Re: Macross News Posted: 09 Apr 2021, 04:28 |
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forper wrote: What's wrong with fansubs? Often more accurate than official ones. I definitely prefer JoJo fansubs to the official, copyright-safe ones.
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rcarlson
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Post subject: Re: Macross News Posted: 09 Apr 2021, 06:54 |
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I don't know how deep of a discussion on fansubs we want to get into, but my general issue with them is that they tend to prioritize literal translation over readability in English and conveyance of personality and character. Some groups are better than others, and I appreciate the ones for shows that have either no official translation or seriously compromised official translations, but on the whole I'll take the body of official subs I've watched over the body of fansubs I've watched. Anyway, I hope in a few years my Japanese comprehension is good enough that I don't have to have an opinion on sub preferences anymore for most shows. And I'd still want that DYRL blu-ray. To my knowledge there are only two altered shots, and if fansubs are already on the table there's nothing wrong with ripping the video, editing in the best available uncensored footage, and re-encoding. That'd probably give you the best version of the movie possible at present. That said, I do have that Perfect Edition LD and it's pretty damn great. Don't believe there's any UHD of DYRL. Akira and GitS have them, though both have real bone-headed problems with their US releases. GitS inexplicably used the dub end credits on the Japanese audio track (a problem my US blu-ray didn't have), and most inexplicably of all Funimation's Akira UHD didn't have HDR at launch. They haven't sent me that replacement disc yet, either... Perhaps we can all agree on this: most things kinda suck.
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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: Macross News Posted: 09 Apr 2021, 14:16 |
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I don’t known exactly why I should care about this. Until Harmony Gold is DEAD and no longer influencing Macross in any way there will be many unhappy fans. If anything this seems like a loss.
Anyone who “can’t get” DYRL has had 35 years to try. I can’t pretend that’s relevant. The real issue, IMO, is all the gross Robotech crap still clogging American store shelves and the real stuff from Bandai, Hasegawa, whoever is grey market and therefore always harder to find and more expensive. In 2021 Target has High Grade Gundam models, as well as high quality Godzilla stuff and a ton of other crap. Target. If not for HG there will be Macross stuff right next to it but the way this reads...now it will be and we’ll be able thank HG for it? Backwards! HG is not our friend. Big West “recognizing” HG is defeat. The bad guy won. Enjoy whatever f-ed up Blu-ray they release...now at the end of home media. They missed the ENTIRE anime DVD boom.
I have copies of all this stuff, I have for ages, I don’t care. Screw Harmony Gold forever.
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tasuke
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Post subject: Re: Macross News Posted: 09 Apr 2021, 14:47 |
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i'm crossing my fingers. it would be awfully nice to see honest-to-god MACROSS video and merchandising freely available worldwide once and for all. imagine seeing these, for instance, openly available at your local specialty shop, -if not your local BARNES AND NOBLE or the like- and tell me that it wouldn't be a big deal;
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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: Macross News Posted: 09 Apr 2021, 15:53 |
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Compared to we missed, what’s gone forever, I can’t care. Especially since they put those bizzare Five Star Stories looking tweezer hands on the new VF toys (looks like they put 1/72 hands on a 1/48 model and then just heated them up with a lighter and stretched them...) and they cost hundreds of dollars each...and that all of Macross has been available world-wide since Torrents were invented. What has actually happened: the anime industry has collapsed the point where Big West has capitulated to HG and will give them a cut of something they don’t deserve. That toy you like so much? Now you will maybe be able to buy a USDM version but HG gets a cut because they have better lawyers. Gross. Or it could be even more worse. They may just rebadge the Toynami garbage as Macross.
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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: Macross News Posted: 10 Apr 2021, 17:30 |
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I love that Cream Puf EP. Yoko Kanno really is amazing.
I’m a casual fan of Plus. The character designs kind of suck, brain powered planes that melt the minds of pilots are a dumb idea, the testosterone level is MAD, etc. It’s a total gaiden. You could have called it something original, or Gundam or whatever and nobody would know the difference. It’s not really Macross, it’s just Macross compatible. The music is AAA, a lot of the animation is too, the concert scenes are fantastic. For all my complaints I’ll take it over Zero any day. Zero was so off track it felt like an American made it.
The only version of Plus I have is the movie LD with the trick cover. IIRC there are scenes exclusive to each version that sort of make both the series and the movie versions worth owning for the true maniac but I can’t remember what the details are.
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