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 Post subject: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-3300
PostPosted: 14 Jul 2013, 18:19 
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I finally had the time to put together my home theater system. Before I placed all components inside the cabinet, I cleaned their internals, fans, heat sinks etc.. I had the opportunity to take pictures of the mighty Crystalio II(CII) video processor's internals.

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This one shows all boards and the HDD. I will include close up shots in later posts.

I own a CII VPS-3800 Pro and a CII VPS-3300. I will also include a couple shots from VPS-3300.

They both include Analog Devices ADV7321 for 12bit 216mhz analog to digital encoder and + TI TVP5160 chips for 2D/3D 5 Line (5H) adaptive Comb filter + TBC + 3D adaptive analog noise reduction.

They both include Faroudja Fli2300 with DCDi and Gennum VXP GF9351 dual architecture for SD de-interlacing which is user selectable. Gennum VXP GF9351 is later used for scaling to up to 1080p. Faroudja and Gennum chips also offer user adjustable noise reduction for both analog and digital sources.

These above components put Pixel Magic System Crystalio II products a step further from other video processors for analog video processing.

VPS-3800 Pro model includes built in 250GB HDD and a media player. Video and audio circuits clocked by 1ppm low jitter TCXO. 2 HD-SDI inputs (VPS-3300 has 2 SD-SDI inputs). 2 firewire connectors.
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 Post subject: Re: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-330
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Genesis Faroudja FLi2300 in VPS-3800 Pro
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 Post subject: Re: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-330
PostPosted: 14 Jul 2013, 18:22 
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PSU in VPS-3800 which is a PC power supply
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 Post subject: Re: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-330
PostPosted: 14 Jul 2013, 18:26 
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Seagate 250GB 7200rpm IDE(P-ATA) HDD for the built in media player. Media player has MPEG1/2/4 decoding capability to provide high quality media playback. External USB disks and/or the included 200GB internal hard disk can be used to store various video clips including the MPEG2 TS video taken by the new HDV cameras. It can also play .ISO files. I ripped most of my DVDs into .ISO files. Media player can play them like DVDs with menus, subtitles, audio options. Since it's a direct line from the mpeg decoder, VP gets perfect unaltered(similar to SDI) feed.
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 Post subject: Re: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-330
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Gennum VXP GF9351 chip. GF9352 is used on Lumagen Radiance units. GF9352 is near exact chip with further support for better 2:2 cadence detection and digital noise reductions(mosquito noise reduction added).
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 Post subject: Re: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-330
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Sigma Design EM8621L-LF media processor.
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 Post subject: Re: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-330
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There are a number of these chips by Silicon Image. I am not sure what they are used for. You can also see the Analog Devices ADV7321 chip on lower right corner.
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 Post subject: Re: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-330
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Analog Devices ADV7321 12bit 216mhz chip close up.
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 Post subject: Re: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-330
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Texas Instruments TVP5160 chip used for 3D/2D 5 Line (5H) adaptive comb filter + TBC + 3D adaptive analog noise reduction.
3D comb filter can be defeated. When enabled it has 4 controls with 100 increments. Luma gain, Chroma gain, Luma coring, Chroma coring. Gain controls how fast the comb filter should switch between 2D and 3D and coring controls what it should consider noise, static, not moving and what it should consider moving.
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 Post subject: Re: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-330
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There is a good number of these. I am not sure what they are used for. Cirrus Logic name usually goes with audio converters. Might be D/A or A/D audio converters.
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 Post subject: Re: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-330
PostPosted: 14 Jul 2013, 18:43 
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This is an interesting one. I am not sure what it is for. I know the media player is Linux based. Maybe it uses this Intel chip.
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 Post subject: Re: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-330
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Some more chips. I am not sure what their use is for.
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 Post subject: Re: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-330
PostPosted: 14 Jul 2013, 18:46 
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The chip on the right side is not available on VPS-3300. The leads follow to the firewire ports in the back.
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 Post subject: Re: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-330
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This complete internals of VPS-3300 model.
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 Post subject: Re: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-330
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This is the main board close up on VPS-3300.
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 Post subject: Re: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-330
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Both my VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-3300 side by side. Exact same in the front.
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 Post subject: Re: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-330
PostPosted: 14 Jul 2013, 18:55 
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VPS-3800 and VPS-3300 rear. VPS-3300 missing firewire ports between Ethernet digital inputs.

All video inputs are BNC connectors. 4 HDMI (profile 1.1) inputs. 2 HDMI(profile 1.1) outputs. 3 Digital coax input, 1 optical input. 1 Digital Coax output, 1 optical output. RS-232 control. IR input, output. 2 USB 2.0 inputs. Ethernet port for media share/transfer(needs FTP), 3 RCA analog inputs, 1 RCA analog output.

Thanks for dual architecture(Faroudja and Gennum chips)unit can process 2 separate sources simultaneously and output from 2 separate HDMI outputs. It can do PIP and Split screen as well.
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 Post subject: Re: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-330
PostPosted: 18 Jul 2013, 23:13 
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Wrong forum...

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 Post subject: Re: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-330
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This is an interesting one. I am not sure what it is for. I know the media player is Linux based. Maybe it uses this Intel chip.

That's a standard flash memory chip. I think 32MB but don't quote me on it, it probably has the firmware for the unit, you can make an embedded Linux system fit into that.
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 Post subject: Re: Internal Photos of Crystalio II VPS-3800 Pro and VPS-330
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I know there is a few other forum members who owns a Crystalio II(or two like me). After much tweaking and adjusting I found the right settings for LD picture.

I own a Pioneer HLD-x0 and McIntosh MLD-7020(Pioneer CLD-97) as players. These settings were consistent on Pioneer units so I believe they can be used for other Pioneer models.

I will start with picture settings. D-Ext function on HLD-X0 crushes blacker than black(btb) so it's not recommended. I believe HLD-X9, CLD-S9 and a few others have this function.

These settings were adjusted on fully calibrated Pioneer Elite Kuro plasma monitor on ISF night mode. They are correct adjustments for a totally dark room.

Brightness: -28
Contrast: 12
Color: 5
Sharpness:-15
Tint: -5

Output settings are:

Resolution:1080p
Frame Rate: 59.94
Color space: RGB 16-235

Over scan: %1
Position: 0,-1

Y/C delay: 1
Sub pixel delay: 0.25

Faroudja DCDi: enabled
True Life: Off

Chroma up sampling error(cue) filter: OFF
Dot-crawl filter: dynamic
Chroma traps: Level 3

3D comb filter settings:
3D comb Filter: enabled

Luma Gain: 5
Chroma Gain: 0
Luma coring: 18
Chroma coring: 0

Smooth scaling: -2

De-interlacing mode: film 3:2 for movies and video for anything else

aspect ratio: 4:3 Letterboxed or 4:3 for FS

Gennum VXP noise reduction: off
Faroudja noise reduction: off or low(use only one)
3D analog noise reduction: up to mid (do not combine Faroudja and 3D noise reduction)

Note: 3D analog noise reduction is a part of texas instruments tvp5160 chip. Crystalio II uses the 4mb full configuration chip with 3D/2D 5 line motion adaptive filter, TBC and analog noise reduction functions. TBC is default always on. IF 3D comb filter settings are adjusted correctly, noise is reduced by a lot already.
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