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primetarget
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Post subject: Re: DVD Recorders with 3D Comb Filters Posted: 13 Dec 2016, 03:38 |
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Sorry to dig this old post up but I did a lot of reading on this. I am looking for a DVD recorder that has a 3d comb filter but also has HDMI out.
Looking at the list I see the DMR-ES25 but looks like its only a 2D
C1AB00000791: DMR-E20 (3 in) DMR-E30 (3 in) DMR-HS2 (HDD, 3 in) DMR-T3030 (HDD, 3 in) DMR-T3040 (HDD, 3 in)
C1AB00001979: DMR-E65 (3 in) DMR-E75 (VCR, 2 in) DMR-E85 (HDD, 3 in) DMR-E95 (HDD, 3 in) DMR-E500 (HDD, 3 in) DMR-EH50 (HDD, 3 in) DMR-EH55 (HDD, 3 in) DMR-EH60 (HDD, 3 in) DMR-ES10 (3 in) DMR-ES15 (2 in) DMR-ES20 (2 in) DMR-ES25 (2 in) DMR-EZ17 (2 in) DMR-EZ27 (2 in) DMR-T6070 (HDD, 3 in)
I also found a Samsung DVD-VR357 only to find that its a 2D
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msgohan
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Post subject: Re: DVD Recorders with 3D Comb Filters Posted: 06 Jan 2017, 04:34 |
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primetarget wrote: Looking at the list I see the DMR-ES25 but looks like its only a 2D It's 3D. The "2 in" refers to the number of inputs.
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rbf18270
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Post subject: Re: DVD Recorders with 3D Comb Filters Posted: 06 Jan 2017, 20:20 |
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elahrairrah wrote: Yeah, the Panasonic DMR-ES25 is definitely a 3D comb filter. Not the greatest 3D comb filter, but it definitely doesn't behave like a 2D filter. which is the one with the best comb filter?
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virtualvcr
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Post subject: Re: DVD Recorders with 3D Comb Filters Posted: 26 Apr 2017, 07:28 |
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Been experimenting with my Toshiba DVD Recorder. Also had 3D DNR and Mosquito NR turned on. CLD-D703 (C) > Toshiba RD-XS34 (C>Y/C) > ATI TV Wonder HD 600 USB (Y/C) CLD-D703 (C) > ATI TV Wonder HD 600 USB (C) Processed in AVISynth using BitFrost and 2 calls of LRemoveDust (17,2). Check out the detail on the 300 and 400 boxes. Cleaning the raw signal doesn't preserve details as the hardware filters do.
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virtualvcr
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Post subject: Re: DVD Recorders with 3D Comb Filters Posted: 27 Apr 2017, 22:21 |
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happycube wrote: Mosquito NR is tuned towards MPEG artifacts, it shouldn't be used on LD. The TV wonder HD is definitely a 2D comb filter... and it looks like it's dropping color bandwidth quite a bit. Other than that the Toshiba->ATI chain looks pretty good. Good to know. Will probably leave it off in the future. Also just won an auction for a Extron YCS-100. Can't wait to try it out on my set up.
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msgohan
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Post subject: Re: DVD Recorders with 3D Comb Filters Posted: 28 Apr 2017, 16:15 |
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happycube wrote: it looks like it's dropping color bandwidth quite a bit. Yes, this is the fatal flaw of the ATI 600 USB for LD capture. virtualvcr wrote: Also just won an auction for a Extron YCS-100. Can't wait to try it out on my set up. Prepare to be disappointed, if your benchmark is S&W. http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/video-r ... #post48712
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Guest
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Post subject: Re: DVD Recorders with 3D Comb Filters Posted: 01 May 2017, 21:17 |
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The YCS-100 does pretty awful on the S&W test, but pretty good on real world material. You just gotta bump up the color a bit.
One thing that I and a member on the FB group noticed though is that it does not seem to play nice with Panasonic laserdisc players for some reason. Works great with my various Pioneer players.
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pbiancardi
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Post subject: Re: DVD Recorders with 3D Comb Filters Posted: 06 May 2017, 20:14 |
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Perfect case of the bandwagon mentality not working Everyone is on the Extron kick based on a couple of cell phone screen shots but it's nothing special at all and it has horrible color compared to a good 3d comb.
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Guest
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Post subject: Re: DVD Recorders with 3D Comb Filters Posted: 10 May 2017, 03:37 |
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The Extron is a good comb filter for $20 when you don't want to buy a more expensive video processor, or have a processor with a weak built in comb filter like most DVDO products. The NRS is in a totally different class. Out of the stuff currently laying around the living room:
DVDO VP 50 < Panasonic DMR-ES25 < Panasonic LX-900 built in svideo < Extron YCS < Faroudja DVP-1000
Now if I could just combine the Faroudja comb filter with the DVDO deinterlacing and aspect ratio options I'd have a perfect processor.
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sega3dmm
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Post subject: Re: DVD Recorders with 3D Comb Filters Posted: 11 May 2017, 19:53 |
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gohanx wrote: DVDO VP 50 < Panasonic DMR-ES25 < Panasonic LX-900 built in svideo < Extron YCS < Faroudja DVP-1000 Interesting that you put the LX-900's built-in S-video over the DMR-ES25's comb filter. The latter is loved around here. I have an LX-600, which is basically the same as the LX-900 without the superior MASH DAC and Noise reduction features. It's currently hooked up via composite to a Toshiba D-RW2SU outputting 480i component to a Samsung HLS series DLP. Would you recommend S-video connected to the TV (or DVD recorder)? The Toshiba has fantastic color resolution for (supposedly) a 2D filter, better than that of my TV's 3D filter.
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virtualvcr
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Post subject: Re: DVD Recorders with 3D Comb Filters Posted: 11 May 2017, 22:21 |
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Do the Panasonic DVD Recorders shut off after a set amount of time? I'm having that issue with my Toshiba. I tried to use it to comb some VHS recordings I was capping but it shut off around 2 hours in (it was an 8 hour tape ). Thinking about getting one if they allow me to keep it on for a while. Edit: The DMR-E20 does have the option to keep on indefinitely or in 2 hour intervals up to 6. Checked it on the manual. Edit 2: The first manual I checked was the UK version. the US version on Panny's FTP (copyright 2001) doesn't have these options listed.
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