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 Post subject: Pioneer LG-1 LD-G Decoder internal photos.
PostPosted: 23 Dec 2015, 21:18 
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Let's take a look at what's inside LG-1. I will attempt to explain how it is used and maybe how it works too.

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I have the remote control unit somewhere, I will take photos and update later. The front buttons on the unit are well sufficient for all the functions. You can turn on graphics and LD-G channels with the graphics button. (LD-G can have up to 8 channels but most I have seen utilized was 4 I believe). Mode can move the subtitles up and down, very useful if you zoom in on LBX films.

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Back of the unit has 1 composite input, 1 composite output, 1 toslink (optical) input and 1 toslink (optical) output. You need to connect your LD player's composite output into LG-1 composite input then connect LG-1's composite output to your display. You need to connect your LD player's toslink (optical) audio output into LG-1's optical input. The LD-G data is on the digital audio tracks, not embedded in the video. Because of this, you must connect the optical audio output into LG-1's optical input.

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Overall picture of the inside above. The power section is on the right side. Typical differential noise removal filter at the 100V end, a transformer to step down to 5V(and remove common mode noise), followed by the rectifier and additional filters.

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an interesting switch on the last photo(normal vs. color bar). So far ton of Toshiba components in there. I am still investigating, I will chime in later with more info.
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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer LG-1 LD-G Decoder internal photos.
PostPosted: 26 Dec 2015, 00:01 
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Looks like there are some larger surface-mount chips on the back side. And there's a lot more circuitry than I expected to see.
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PostPosted: 26 Dec 2015, 06:03 
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Smaller ones near the back are toshiba, probably related to toslink connections. There is a Yamaha multiplexer, again with audio. The large one is a pioneer. Daughter board is all toshiba as well. It is better built than some ld players. I will work on it next summer, I will put in my own 120V power section with much better filtering. I will add some cover shielding over pcbs. It gets interference from other electronics as is right now.
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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer LG-1 LD-G Decoder internal photos.
PostPosted: 16 Apr 2016, 18:54 
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Finally got my Pioneer LG-1 Yesterday from Japanese Auctions (shipment took long).
This was cheap but without remote. Tested, it is working. Graphics on/off Mode 1/2.
I can't just understand how it is possible to use it without remote unit.
The scroll buttons (move subtitles up and down) are missing. Was trying to watch Stallone Cliffhanger.
Some moments it has 4 rows of English subtitles - only 3 can fit on screen in 3:4 mode.
When at widescreen mode (16:9) only 2 rows are seen.

How I can move them up with LG unit only (Manual is only Japanese)?

Thank you beforehand,
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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer LG-1 LD-G Decoder internal photos.
PostPosted: 17 Apr 2016, 00:41 
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Let's take a look at what's inside LG-1. I will attempt to explain how it is used and maybe how it works too.

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I have the remote control unit somewhere, I will take photos and update later. The front buttons on the unit are well sufficient for all the functions. You can turn on graphics and LD-G channels with the graphics button. (LD-G can have up to 8 channels but most I have seen utilized was 4 I believe). Mode can move the subtitles up and down, very useful if you zoom in on LBX films.

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screen shot on windows

Back of the unit has 1 composite input, 1 composite output, 1 toslink (optical) input and 1 toslink (optical) output. You need to connect your LD player's composite output into LG-1 composite input then connect LG-1's composite output to your display. You need to connect your LD player's toslink (optical) audio output into LG-1's optical input. The LD-G data is on the digital audio tracks, not embedded in the video. Because of this, you must connect the optical audio output into LG-1's optical input.

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Overall picture of the inside above. The power section is on the right side. Typical differential noise removal filter at the 100V end, a transformer to step down to 5V(and remove common mode noise), followed by the rectifier and additional filters.

Image
greenshot

Image
free upload pictures

Image
screen shot on pc

an interesting switch on the last photo(normal vs. color bar). So far ton of Toshiba components in there. I am still investigating, I will chime in later with more info.


Thank-you so much for posting this.

Good to note that the remote is not essential for normal use though I would rather have a unit with the remote.

I passed one of these up a couple or three years ago as it came without the remote (but did have the original box, packing & the Japanese manual) which was perhaps a bit of a mistake as they do not come up for sale very often here in the UK, still kicking myself as it was only £40 or £50ish which was quite fair given the postage cost to bring one into the UK from Japan or the US would be not far off that.

Hopefully I will pick one up sometime soon(ish) as I have quite a few LD-G enabled discs (Japanese F-1 LDs mostly) & am curious to see what info they actually contain - I have been told that they are usually in English so it would be interesting to see them in action.

Again, thanks for posting - very helpful indeed :thumbup: .
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PostPosted: 17 Apr 2016, 17:28 
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Does anybody know LD with more than 2 LD+G channels? Any examples?
Here is example of 5 language CD+G disc: http://www.cdplusg.com/cdplusg/Discogra ... _York.html
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PostPosted: 17 Apr 2016, 19:39 
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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer LG-1 LD-G Decoder internal photos.
PostPosted: 27 Apr 2016, 00:18 
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Very nice unit. Any pics of the remote?
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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer LG-1 LD-G Decoder internal photos.
PostPosted: 06 Aug 2016, 13:42 
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just get my LG-1 ! for 4100 yens transport in and with the remote control !!!
I will post pictures.
I think HF9G remote can be also used for this LG-1
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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer LG-1 LD-G Decoder internal photos.
PostPosted: 06 Aug 2016, 14:49 
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It can but since it has a built in decoder already you may not have much use of it.

EDIT: Misunderstood the post, sorry.
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PostPosted: 06 Aug 2016, 15:52 
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One of the most useful features you get with the external decoder (also assuming you have the remote control) is the ability to move the subtitles higher up on the screen. I don't think you can do that on players that have built-in decoder. At least not on the LD-S9. This feature is useful when zooming on a letterbox movie to fill a 16:9 display. Normally the subtitles would become hidden when zooming.
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PostPosted: 06 Aug 2016, 17:29 
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I am still looking for an LD-G unit but they never show up here in the UK (well very rarely) & the only place to pick them up appears to be from Japan.

With the GB £ sterling where it is just now & not likely to change much anytime soon it may be a while before I finally (if ever perhaps) acquire one.

The price of the unit + postage cost + import fees/taxes will add up & the units with remotes themselves are not that cheap or am I looking in the wrong places perhaps?
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PostPosted: 06 Aug 2016, 17:59 
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I paid 40 USD + shipping for my unit at least. Got it from Japan.
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PostPosted: 06 Aug 2016, 22:23 
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samaron wrote:
I paid 40 USD + shipping for my unit at least. Got it from Japan.


Thanks for that.

That price is lower than the ones I have seen (that "work" & come with the remote) so perhaps time for me to look again & a little harder!?!

Will bag one of them sometime, been on my shopping list for quite a while now.

Cheers.
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PostPosted: 06 Aug 2016, 23:31 
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My experience is that prices are a lot higher on eBay. Guess many people selling stuff take advantage of the fact that it is probably the only international online auction site people know of, or can use. Even on local auction sites the prices can be high since people tend to use BIN auctions from eBay as a price reference. I've bought a lot of "high-value" items that frequently go for next to nothing on japanese auction sites. Even adding fees the proxy might take, it is almost always cheaper than buying it on eBay. At least my experience.
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samaron wrote:
One of the most useful features you get with the external decoder (also assuming you have the remote control) is the ability to move the subtitles higher up on the screen. I don't think you can do that on players that have built-in decoder. At least not on the LD-S9.

Not on the R7G either.
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PostPosted: 07 Aug 2016, 13:54 
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yeah, just wanted to say that you can maybe use HF9G remote for the LG-1.
It can be useful for someone who has no remote for the LG-1 as HF9G remote is easy to find !
I have already the HF9G, but I get the LG-1 to work with my HLD-X0. And luckly I get also the remote for the LG-1. The remote can control HLD-X0 also ! I was surprised !
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