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Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 09:54 |
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nissling wrote: Fantastic Julien! You won't be disappointed. Received and quickly installed where the BDP-105 was. It sounds really good. Quite thrilled to see the USB DAC go up to 32bit/384KHz on Windows 10. Added benefit I didn't realize: Wifi is integrated now, no need for a wireless USB key like on the 105. Must fine-tune foobar2000 now to make it play DSD64/DSD128 natively over USB. If other people out there are instered in the DAC without buying the whole OPPO, HIFImeDYI just announced that their external DAC based on the SABRE ES9038PRO is available as a standard product now: Hifime UDA38Pro DAC (ES9038Pro + SA9227) @ US$249https://hifimediy.com/uda38pro-usb-dac-es9038proJulien
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Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 09:47 |
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invenio wrote: I wasn't aware how expensive the players were outside of the US. It's a global trend: any piece of electronics is selling for much cheaper in the USA now. It used to be Hong Kong but not anymore. Had to buy my laptop from HP USA because the 15" model only exists in North America and the trimmed down version for Europe sells for 50% more there. Same for OPPO. Anything outside the USA is 20~50% more expensive these days. Julien
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Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 11:04 |
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In Sweden it's even more expensive due to a "chemical tax" which adds 120 SEK per kilogram of the product to the final price, though the limit is 320 SEK. Though I'm not really that critical to taxes and VAT in most cases, this is just stupid as they're measuring the weight of the product in its original box, with manual and other accessories. Quite a terrible way to make money if you ask me. I paid 9490 SEK for my Oppo UDP-203, region free with two UHD-BDs. It equals to $1128, which is indeed a crazy amount. In Sweden, the entire electronic business has gone crazy. It's pretty much all between three retailers right now and two of them are nearly bankrupt. Only good thing with these prices is that you know the retailers aren't ripping you off as they can barely make a profit out of the market, even though people are buying electronics like crazy over here.
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Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 11:29 |
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nissling wrote: In Sweden it's even more expensive due to a "chemical tax" which adds 120 SEK per kilogram of the product to the final price, though the limit is 320 SEK. Though I'm not really that critical to taxes and VAT in most cases, this is just stupid as they're measuring the weight of the product in its original box, with manual and other accessories. Quite a terrible way to make money if you ask me. I paid 9490 SEK for my Oppo UDP-203, region free with two UHD-BDs. It equals to $1128, which is indeed a crazy amount. In Sweden, the entire electronic business has gone crazy. It's pretty much all between three retailers right now and two of them are nearly bankrupt. Only good thing with these prices is that you know the retailers aren't ripping you off as they can barely make a profit out of the market, even though people are buying electronics like crazy over here. Wow, those are truly some insane prices. With those kinds of mark up it's probably cheaper to fly to the US, buy all your home theater hardware, stay at a luxury hotel for a few days, and then fly back!
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Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 12:41 |
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Maybe, but I boycott all airlines there is and will never set my foot on a plane so in the end it's not an alternative. I will however say that no matter where you live in Sweden, if you're looking to buy the LG 65C8, you may as well go to Denmark (by car) and buy one. Even with all transportation costs and tolls considered, it'll still most likely be a couple of hundered USD cheaper than getting one where you live. Absurd yet true, and as long as you just buy it for private usage you don't have to pay any additional taxes when trespassing the borders.
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Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 13:11 |
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Interesting. I certainly respect your views and decision. For me personally, I find traveling immensely rewarding. Interacting with other cultures, delving into the history of locations, witnessing the architecture, eating local foods, etc... is an experience I really can't describe in words. I enjoy also being at home,... but it's hard to explain the feeling of standing at Machu Pichu when the morning clouds break, walking through Paris with a loved one, walking the canals of Venice,.... These kinds of experiences are some of my most vivid memories of my life. Also, keep in mind that flying is actually very fuel efficient. Much more so than driving a car. Fuel is only about 0.01 gallons per mile per person. https://science.howstuffworks.com/transport/flight/modern/question192.htm
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Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 13:59 |
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Well, I applaud you for your environmental conscious. Where I live there is no public transportation. It would be nice to have more transportation options but the issue is that outside of a major city, it usually is not feasible or the door-to-door travel time is significantly more (and time is money). I think we went a little off-track on the topic!
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Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER Posted: 23 Apr 2018, 05:57 |
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I have 2 questions on the UDP-205 1/ Right now I plugged the External Out in 5.1ch (6 cables) to the 5.1ch Multi In of my Amp. This is how I forward both stereo and 5.1 sound from the OPPO's DACs. Stereo is using the L/R of the 5.1ch out. But should I rather use the Stereo dedicated Output of the OPPO for stereo-only sound? Better sound quality? 2/ I forwarded the coax out of my LD Player to the coax in of the OPPO and when playing a DTS LD, it does decode it to 5.1ch. However the OPPO display remains in "CD" more with no indication it's decoding anything. Is that expected? Julien PS: side note, this classic eBay auction of a complete (but not region modded) 205 ended at US$1,734, which triggered a US$1,750 BIN on a competing auction while new 205's were going from US$1,975 to US$2,253.
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Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER Posted: 23 Apr 2018, 23:28 |
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admin wrote: I have 2 questions on the UDP-205 1/ Right now I plugged the External Out in 5.1ch (6 cables) to the 5.1ch Multi In of my Amp. This is how I forward both stereo and 5.1 sound from the OPPO's DACs. Stereo is using the L/R of the 5.1ch out. But should I rather use the Stereo dedicated Output of the OPPO for stereo-only sound? Better sound quality? The stereo output should be the same from the multichannel RCA plugs and the stereo dedicated plugs (when stereo audio is played). Multichannel audio will be downmixed to stereo in the stereo channel output plugs. So for multichannel audio the stereo dedicated plugs and the left and right channel plugs of the multichannel output may be different. admin wrote: 2/ I forwarded the coax out of my LD Player to the coax in of the OPPO and when playing a DTS LD, it does decode it to 5.1ch. However the OPPO display remains in "CD" more with no indication it's decoding anything.
Is that expected?
"The UDP-205 supports up to 2ch/768kHz PCM and DSD512 signals through its USB audio input, and up to 2ch/96kHz PCM, Dolby Digital, DTS and AAC signal through its Optical and Coaxial audio inputs." This is directly from the manual. So as long as the output is compatible, it should be doing the decoding.
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Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER Posted: 24 Apr 2018, 02:55 |
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invenio wrote: "The UDP-205 supports up to 2ch/768kHz PCM and DSD512 signals through its USB audio input, and up to 2ch/96kHz PCM, Dolby Digital, DTS and AAC signal through its Optical and Coaxial audio inputs." This is directly from the manual. So as long as the output is compatible, it should be doing the decoding. Thanks for replying! It does the decoding all right, but I was expecting the player to show "Dolby" or "DTS" when decoding something. It just remains on the default display, no indication that it's doing anything (even though it does). I sent an email to OPPO for confirmation. Julien
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Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER Posted: 24 Apr 2018, 11:07 |
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forper wrote: Oppo industrial design is just so weak though. Which part exactly? References? Measurements? Julien
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