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 Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER
PostPosted: 24 Apr 2018, 17:28 
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It does the decoding all right, but I was expecting the player to show "Dolby" or "DTS" when decoding something.
It just remains on the default display, no indication that it's doing anything (even though it does).

I sent an email to OPPO for confirmation.


And OPPO came back to me in less than 12h!

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The front panel of the player will only show the DTS and Dolby Digital lights when the audio source is originating from the player. The player will not show these symbols when the player is receiving the audio signal from an external source.

You can press the PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN Key to change between input information, which will include seeing what format Dolby Digital or DTS you are receiving.


That works perfectly, displaying Dolby D (+ logo) and 48k 5/1 MCH.

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 Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER
PostPosted: 24 Apr 2018, 18:00 
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Very nice.

Can't wait to get my UDP-203 later this week.
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 Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER
PostPosted: 25 Apr 2018, 08:11 
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invenio wrote:
I have to presume he meant aesthetic design.


Yep that's what I meant. They just don't look cool to me. Sure it's subjective but compare them to the flagship Sony and Pioneer Blu Ray units of the last few years and the Oppos just don't look "cool"? A recased Oppo by McIntosh is interesting. McIntosh look "cool" to me but wouldn't fit in with my Sony stuff.
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 Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER
PostPosted: 25 Apr 2018, 11:26 
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Interesting. Of course it comes down to taste, but every time I see a Sony or Pioneer blu-ray player in the stores it's made from cheap plastic. The Oppo's use a brushed aluminum front panel and a steel chasis. For me that "looks" 100 times cooler than plastic. But that's just me. Also, the size just makes it more impressive. If you take Sony's flagship UHP-H1 in comparixon, it's tiny. Looks like half the size of the UDP-205. Of course it's going to come down to personal taste and in all fairness, the Oppo's do cost more so you should also expect more.
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 Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER
PostPosted: 26 Apr 2018, 11:07 
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Oh yeah Sony's latest product design is pathetic. ES players that look like cheapo crap.

I'm talking about their flagships from years ago.
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 Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER
PostPosted: 28 Apr 2018, 04:08 
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I ordered a 203 a few days ago. I have a 103 and have been very satisfied with it. I really don’t want to upgrade to 4K movies as it wasn’t long ago I decided to upgrade to Blu-ray lol. But I didn’t want to miss out on buying one of their last models. Such quality in their players. Nicest piece of AV equipment I own.
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 Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2018, 08:50 
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OFFER (officially) ENDS TODAY (April 30th extended to June 30th) -- it's the extension of a previous offer I completely missed before

Amazon USA has a "3 x 4K UHD BD for $50" promotion going until today.

https://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=17360628011

Got myself (delivered in Singapore in 4 days!):

  • Sicario + Inception + Lego Movie
  • Batman Begins + The Dark Knight + The Dark Knight Rises

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 Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER
PostPosted: 08 May 2018, 22:50 
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So like a few other people here I pulled the trigger and the 203 just arrived yesterday, eagerly waiting for the weekend to pull forward the cabinet and get it all wired up.

205 was very tempting though at more than twice the price really just couldn't justify it. Not only that but it wouldn't fit in the remaining space in the cabinet so a whole re-arrangement of everything would have been required. Now if there's any regret about not going the extra bit I just console myself with this review! https://www.audioholics.com/blu-ray-and-dvd-player-reviews/oppo-udp-203-udp-205
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 Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER
PostPosted: 30 May 2018, 03:51 
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Quite random end prices but I don't feel too bad about paying US$2,000 for a brand new/multi-region UDP-205 anymore, the market is clearly keeping high prices even though OPPO recently did a round of Email confirmation for people interested in another production batch:

(eBay sold items)
  • May 29 - US$2,500 (new)
  • May 28 - US$2,050 (opened)
  • May 27 - US$2,195 (new)
  • May 25 - US$2,500 (new)
  • May 22 - US$2,695 (new)
  • May 22 - US$2,300 (new, opened)
  • May 21 - US$1,899 (new)
  • May 19 - US$2,279 (new)

Thank you again substance for kicking my butt to buy one in time!

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 Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER
PostPosted: 30 May 2018, 11:25 
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Wow, I can't believe those are the prices. Can you just order from the Oppo website directly? It's about half the price.
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PostPosted: 30 May 2018, 16:52 
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invenio wrote:
Wow, I can't believe those are the prices. Can you just order from the Oppo website directly? It's about half the price.


Website says: Sold Out => https://www.oppodigital.com/products.asp?cat=16

Register for Potential Availability => https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/

This is where OPPO asked anyone who registered to confirm their interest and their email address recently.

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 Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER
PostPosted: 30 May 2018, 18:02 
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I have a feeling that when they announced they would not make new products people jumped and bought directly from them. Myself included. It's a shame as I have owned 3 players from Oppo over the years and they made exceptional products at reasonable prices (for what you get).
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 Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER
PostPosted: 31 May 2018, 22:44 
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Can't believe the price gouging going on even for the 203.

Cheapest I've been able to find for that hovers around $900.

Took a chance on a damaged box 203 that was sold by Amazon Warehouse for $600.

I figure if it's not working or there's a crazy amount of scratches on it, I can return it through Amazon's return policy.
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 Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER
PostPosted: 05 Jun 2018, 05:55 
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I got the 203 in the mail today. Glad to say it's in great shape! Only a small scuff on the front panel.

I'll be hooking this up tomorrow night!
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PostPosted: 14 Jun 2018, 06:24 
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Finally got around to testing out the 203. Happy to say that it works just fine despite the damaged box. I don't have a 4K TV so I can't really check that quality, but it definitely kicks a** with 1080p blu-rays. Plan to get my surround system setup this weekend so I can check the DVD-Audio and SACD playback.

Sad to say though that even though it was advertised as being all region, it isn't. Not that big of a deal though since this player has an HDMI input and I have another all-region blu-ray player--a Toshiba BDX-1200. I can just connect that one to the 203 and use the latter for it's DAC for any of my non-region A blus and non-region 1 DVDs.
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 Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER
PostPosted: 26 Jun 2018, 03:02 
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Pre-order emails seem to have been sent yesterday:

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Audiophile Blu-ray Disc Player


Thank you for your interest in the OPPO UDP-205 - a limited supply is now available. Drawing from over a decade's worth of experience in advanced image processing technology and high fidelity audio performance, the UDP-205 is the perfect choice for discerning enthusiasts. The UDP-205 provides reference level sound quality through the analog outputs, improves the clock precision of the HDMI audio output, and increases the power of the built-in headphone amplifier.

Click here to learn more about the OPPO UDP-205.

To pre-order the OPPO UDP-205, please use this special link:

(custom link removed)

This link is as unique as you are so please do not share. It will expire at 11:59 PM PT on July 3, 2018. Due to the limited quantity available, the limit is 1 per customer. If you are no longer interested in the OPPO UDP-205 and would like to give up this opportunity, click here.


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Note: This product is designated for North American Customers Only.

Limit 1 per customer. Not for resale.

Price: US$ 1,299.00

Options:
  • 1 Year Extended Warranty + 2 Year Standard Warranty for UDP-205 (+US$ 99.00)
  • Rack Mount Kit for UDP-205 (+US$ 99.00)


Since I already own one and I'm not a North American customer, I can pass my pre-order to someone serious about buying one (don't waste it, they sell on eBay for twice this price!). Contact me by PM.

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 Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER
PostPosted: 26 Jun 2018, 19:02 
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You are the man, Julien! I can't take you up on this offer, but hopefully someone here can take you up on this!
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PostPosted: 26 Jun 2018, 23:48 
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I received the same mail in Japan, but too late because after 1 hour all the players in stock were Sold.
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Maybe one more reason to look into the 205?



Still not sure how this can be backward compatible with CD yet provide Hi-res over the same 650MB CD layer...!
Anyone has a compelling explanation?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Quality_Authenticated

Doesn't sound too good: "Master Quality Authenticated (MQA) is an audio codec using lossy compression." and "MQA-encoded content can be carried via any lossless file format such as FLAC or ALAC; hence, it can be played back on systems either with or without an MQA decoder. In the latter case, the resulting audio has easily identifiable high-frequency noise occupying 3 LSB bits, thus limiting playback on legacy devices effectively to 13bit."

So... MQA interesting for lossless files but not so much on physical media?

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 Post subject: Re: Oppo UDP-205 PRE-ORDER
PostPosted: 28 Jun 2018, 08:32 
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MQA interesting for lossless files but not so much on physical media?


I'll skip the whole MQA train but I'm in Tokyo this week-end and the sampler CDs are quite cheap (containing both the CD and the MQA CD) so these will be my only step in MQA territory :-)


The more I read about MQA, the more it sounds like a "Super MP3" format. Instead of taking a CD 16bit/44.1KHz and packing it in a file as much as musically acceptable (MP3), pack as much extra information you can in a standard CDDA (MQA) while retaining some form of backwards compatibility.

Probably an improvement for streaming music in higher quality without dramatically increasing the bandwidth?
But as a physical format, we will probably never hear from it again a year from now.

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