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 Post subject: Re: Genlocks
PostPosted: 05 Sep 2017, 09:13 
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I've been trying but without any success so far. Are you running 32 or 64 bit Win 10?


Running 64 bit Win 10 and now also have it on the older laptop running it with 64 bit Win 7.

I really can't claim much credit - just the hours spent trawling the internet to find this! Probably like most I read that SSA is 16 bit and so the problems running it on a 64 bit OS. Started googling for solutions and found all those ideas like setting up a VM or even how to have two OS installed on the one machine. But also read that the issue with some programs is just that the installer is 16 bit, even though the program is 32 bit; add a new installer and all fixed! Way way beyond my computing skills though.

Turns out this is exactly the thing with SSA, the program is 32-bit and that's clearly stated in the help files now I can access them, the installer must be the problem and must have been left as it was from the initial versions of SSA which were 16 bit. So after hours and hours of searching found this: https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/339251-SUB-STATION-ALPHA-4-08-For-64-Bits-Systems Some computing genius (well to me) has created a version of SSA with a 32 bit installer which is available here: https://www.videohelp.com/software/Sub-Station-Alpha Once it was installed I also had to install the dll file mentioned into the SSA directory, and then it all worked fine - easy as that!! So huge kudos to 'devilcoelhodog' who created it back in 2011.

If you want to access the help files the old winhlp32 won't work with Win 10, did find some suggested work-arounds, but Microsoft provided updates for up to Win 8 to be able to access those files, which is why I also put it on the Win 7 machine so I can read through the help files.

I noticed 'devilcoelhodog' said "Please enjoy it and feel free to download it and put it on your own site." Perhaps Julien might consider making some room on the lddb server to store a copy (like the manuals)? It's something that only LD fans are going to have an interest in these days and that would help ensure it isn't lost forever.
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 Post subject: Re: Genlocks
PostPosted: 05 Sep 2017, 09:33 
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But obviously a source for older LD SSA files would be preferable.

In the "Guide to making Japanese anime releases English friendly" thread linked to earlier, there are some links to a big set of subtitle files hosted by Publius (big thanks to him). I've also been trawling the net for some other sources with a little bit of success so far.

Many of the files in that set are jsub, but these can be opened in SSA. Some I tried opened and ran fine. 'Grave of the Fireflies' opened but the start and end times were included in the 'Text' column instead of the appropriate columns. Hopefully not too hard to fix but I need to work out the best/easiest way. I think I'd rather watch it with original audio and subtitles than the English dub. Some wouldn't open but SSA suggests how to access the error log to try to fix this - those might need a little more work?

What I keep reading is how much these have largely disappeared from the internet. I think that's kind of sad considering the effort and passion that went into creating these in the first place. As they've always been so strongly associated to LD (even if VHS copies were often run off) maybe Julien could consider some space on lddb to preserve these too? Obviously only original fan-made scripts, not stuff ripped from dvd/blu-ray. Firstly if he was agreeable it could be a backup to what Publius hosts. Lddb members could also contribute any scripts they still have saved on drives, and any we mange to find still out there on the internet.
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 Post subject: Re: Genlocks
PostPosted: 05 Sep 2017, 12:07 
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audioboyz1973 wrote:

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I noticed 'devilcoelhodog' said "Please enjoy it and feel free to download it and put it on your own site." Perhaps Julien might consider making some room on the lddb server to store a copy (like the manuals)? It's something that only LD fans are going to have an interest in these days and that would help ensure it isn't lost forever.

I will grab it and put it on one of my sites (just in case).
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dunerider wrote:
But obviously a source for older LD SSA files would be preferable.

In the "Guide to making Japanese anime releases English friendly" thread linked to earlier, there are some links to a big set of subtitle files hosted by Publius (big thanks to him). I've also been trawling the net for some other sources with a little bit of success so far.

Many of the files in that set are jsub, but these can be opened in SSA. Some I tried opened and ran fine. 'Grave of the Fireflies' opened but the start and end times were included in the 'Text' column instead of the appropriate columns. Hopefully not too hard to fix but I need to work out the best/easiest way. I think I'd rather watch it with original audio and subtitles than the English dub. Some wouldn't open but SSA suggests how to access the error log to try to fix this - those might need a little more work?

What I keep reading is how much these have largely disappeared from the internet. I think that's kind of sad considering the effort and passion that went into creating these in the first place. As they've always been so strongly associated to LD (even if VHS copies were often run off) maybe Julien could consider some space on lddb to preserve these too? Obviously only original fan-made scripts, not stuff ripped from dvd/blu-ray. Firstly if he was agreeable it could be a backup to what Publius hosts. Lddb members could also contribute any scripts they still have saved on drives, and any we mange to find still out there on the internet.

This :thumbup: I'll poke my old acquaintances to see if any of them kept the files around from the anime con's back in the day.
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 Post subject: Re: Genlocks
PostPosted: 10 Sep 2017, 19:53 
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Here's a video I did for someone -

https://youtu.be/BOCDF1oi3tI
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 Post subject: Re: Genlocks
PostPosted: 11 Sep 2017, 02:53 
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pbiancardi wrote:
Here's a video I did for someone -

https://youtu.be/BOCDF1oi3tI

Great video, but you left out 1 thing.
What is your genlock unit, I can see the AV but that's it.

That's what I need to find out most.
Then stage 2 of getting the files for what LDs I have or need. :crazy:
And having time to do this in the near future.

Thanks in advance.
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 Post subject: Re: Genlocks
PostPosted: 11 Sep 2017, 11:32 
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rein-o wrote:
pbiancardi wrote:
Here's a video I did for someone -

https://youtu.be/BOCDF1oi3tI

Great video, but you left out 1 thing.
What is your genlock unit, I can see the AV but that's it.

That's what I need to find out most.
Then stage 2 of getting the files for what LDs I have or need. :crazy:
And having time to do this in the near future.

Thanks in advance.


The one in the video is AVT-3170 - http://www.avtoolbox.com/avt3170.shtml

The one I use is TVONE CS-450. I have the LD subtitle archive file also if anyone wants (I will need to clear it with the guy that gave it to me). Also it is really easy to convert any subs to be used on Substation Alpha, the archive does not include Macross SDF so I grabbed the files online and converted myself.

Here is another sample video (I recently setup a projector and moved the subs to there) - https://youtu.be/kL9r_jdl06I

You guys will love it, opens up a whole new world of LD content....
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 Post subject: Re: Genlocks
PostPosted: 11 Sep 2017, 14:26 
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pbiancardi wrote:
Here's a video I did for someone -

https://youtu.be/BOCDF1oi3tI


I have a scriptclub folder too - looks to be the same one?

Do you have some issues with opening some of the jacosub files? Eg: Grave of the fireflies - it opens but all the start/stop times are with the subtitle text instead of the correct columns.
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