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 Post subject: Re: Sony Trinitron KV-32XBR100
PostPosted: 16 Feb 2019, 10:28 
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I have the 960 and it’s stand. I can’t imagine separating them. What else can hold it? :)
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 Post subject: Re: Sony Trinitron KV-32XBR100
PostPosted: 17 Feb 2019, 09:22 
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signofzeta wrote:
What else can hold it? :)


My BBI stand can

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 Post subject: Re: Sony Trinitron KV-32XBR100
PostPosted: 18 Feb 2019, 05:15 
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i had to twist my dad's arm and call in favors to have him help me build a stand. When i found a worn but still solid matching xs955 on a local CL ad by accident I found a sony stand for a non HD trinitron wega that could hold the weight and dimensions so I just took off the front plastic covers that were for the intended model and it works perfectly.

The 960 is perfect for LD. And for everything else it works beautifully, just not so much for vintage games-though they are still perfectly playable.
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 Post subject: Re: Sony Trinitron KV-32XBR100
PostPosted: 18 Feb 2019, 20:34 
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yeah I play Neo Geo and SNES in 4:3 mode on it pretty often. I got a Saturn and PS2 also I play less often.
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 Post subject: Re: Sony Trinitron KV-32XBR100
PostPosted: 18 Feb 2019, 20:59 
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The SNES Classic looks a lot better than a real SNES on the 960, but yeah, you can totally play games on it. Especially post-16-bit stuff.
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 Post subject: Re: Sony Trinitron KV-32XBR100
PostPosted: 19 Feb 2019, 20:33 
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The SNES Classic looks a lot better than a real SNES on the 960, but yeah, you can totally play games on it. Especially post-16-bit stuff.


! seriously? I wouldn't trust HDMI through my processor over good ol' composite. Play Super Mario a lot lately and it's pretty damn good.
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 Post subject: Re: Sony Trinitron KV-32XBR100
PostPosted: 19 Feb 2019, 20:40 
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Composite is really quite bad for most old consoles. Early model SNES have native RGB and YPbPr support. Genesis probably has the worst composite. PCE composite is actually good enough that I don't care.
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 Post subject: Re: Sony Trinitron KV-32XBR100
PostPosted: 19 Feb 2019, 21:05 
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The SNES Classic looks a lot better than a real SNES on the 960, but yeah, you can totally play games on it. Especially post-16-bit stuff.


! seriously? I wouldn't trust HDMI through my processor over good ol' composite. Play Super Mario a lot lately and it's pretty damn good.


I don’t use any processing, I only send audio to my receiver. The SNES classic outputs HDMI natively, the TV takes HDMI, that’s all you can ask for. With a real system it has to digitize and line double and blah blah. It generates more lag and doesn’t look as clean. Probably becsuse something completely digital in a SNES has to go through conversion to analog, then the TV has to digitize it before it can sent it to the analog CRT. Way too much stuff happening. With the SNES Classic it’s as clean as if were built into the TV by Sony.

If the SNES Classic wasn’t a very solid piece this maybe wouldn’t be the case, but like the original SNES the video is super solid. If progressive componant is your bag a hacked Wii also also a good SNES and has perfect video but of course not very streamlined as an experience.

I play my Neo on a 19” CRT on another floor of the house. It’s way way better, IMO. Scan lines, deaper color, zero lag, all that.
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 Post subject: Re: Sony Trinitron KV-32XBR100
PostPosted: 20 Feb 2019, 00:35 
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The SNES classic is very good. The NES classic is garbage out of the box.
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 Post subject: Re: Sony Trinitron KV-32XBR100
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2019, 07:48 
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forper wrote:
signofzeta wrote:
The SNES Classic looks a lot better than a real SNES on the 960, but yeah, you can totally play games on it. Especially post-16-bit stuff.


! seriously? I wouldn't trust HDMI through my processor over good ol' composite. Play Super Mario a lot lately and it's pretty damn good.

Composite sucks. A TV or processor that supports HDMI more often than not would provide better results.
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 Post subject: Re: Sony Trinitron KV-32XBR100
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2019, 13:15 
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signofzeta wrote:
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signofzeta wrote:
The SNES Classic looks a lot better than a real SNES on the 960, but yeah, you can totally play games on it. Especially post-16-bit stuff.


! seriously? I wouldn't trust HDMI through my processor over good ol' composite. Play Super Mario a lot lately and it's pretty damn good.


I don’t use any processing, I only send audio to my receiver. The SNES classic outputs HDMI natively, the TV takes HDMI, that’s all you can ask for. With a real system it has to digitize and line double and blah blah. It generates more lag and doesn’t look as clean. Probably becsuse something completely digital in a SNES has to go through conversion to analog, then the TV has to digitize it before it can sent it to the analog CRT. Way too much stuff happening. With the SNES Classic it’s as clean as if were built into the TV by Sony.


Your 960 can take HDMI? No AD-DA conversion needed on my set, I just go analogue to analogue through composite to my KVHR36 (Aus market 960)
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 Post subject: Re: Sony Trinitron KV-32XBR100
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2019, 16:37 
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The 960 digitizes everything it sees. It can’t display LD resolution, it fully digitizes everything you put into it. If you feed it a 240p Genesis, or a 480i PS1, or anything else, VHS, Beta, Laser, they are all fully digitized, deinterlaced, scaled, and sent to the CRT at the same resolution, 1080i. In a way this is the TV’s greatest weakness and the same one flat panels have.

And yes the USDM one has HDMI. The TV doesn’t have to do anywhere near as much work to display things coming in that way.
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 Post subject: Re: Sony Trinitron KV-32XBR100
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2019, 11:51 
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 Post subject: Re: Sony Trinitron KV-32XBR100
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2019, 15:19 
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Zeta is right. There is a lot of processing. You can turn some stuff off in the service menu if you really want to.

There is definitely some input lag. I notice it plenty when playing a rhythm game, tetris, pinball etc on HD crts compared to SD crts.

None of this is to say that LD isn't absolutely wonderful on these sets because it is. The comb filter in them is bananas.
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