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Post subject: Recording of my LD-S9 / typical Pioneer Digital Audio fault Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 23:59 |
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Joined: 01 May 2016, 06:38 Posts: 2040 Location: Australia Has thanked: 334 times Been thanked: 222 times
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So I brought my Pioneer LD-S9 out of storage yesterday because there may be a repair guy in my area who can help with it. I got it from Japan in about 2015. It worked beautifully for 2 weeks then the digital audio started having problems. The same digital audio problem EVERY one of my 4 Pioneer LD players has developed (this is the basis for my low opinion of Pioneer, my half dozen Sonys have NEVER had an audio problem). I then tried to tweak the pots to fix the audio based on dubious advice received here and then I got P0 error on Side A playback. I gave up after that. I have tried describing the audio problem in the past here but a recording speaks a thousand words so I recorded the error on my phone while playing side B of my Sade LD on my LD-S9 last night. This LD sounds flawless on both the Sonys I currently use btw. The recording isn't great but you can tell that Sade sounds like she's singing under water when it gets to the vocals. In real there is a constant gargle at the peaks and highs. The problem is even on the analog tracks as well. Check it out and be wary of Pioneer players despite their hype on here. https://vocaroo.com/i/s0pqJwgolZwmIf the guy can get it working I plan to sell the S9. It's an ugly piece of junk too.
_________________ SONY MDP-355GX, DVDO iscan VP50, SONY KVHR-M36
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gypsy
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Post subject: Re: Recording of my LD-S9 / typical Pioneer Digital Audio fa Posted: 12 Jul 2019, 17:57 |
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rein-o wrote: Yes, yes we know SONY baloney is the best. Sounds like something with the flutter of the digital, wonder if its due to a weak laser or caps? Don't question the imperious forces of planet Sony.
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forper
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Post subject: Re: Recording of my LD-S9 / typical Pioneer Digital Audio fa Posted: 13 Jul 2019, 06:03 |
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Joined: 01 May 2016, 06:38 Posts: 2040 Location: Australia Has thanked: 334 times Been thanked: 222 times
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gypsy wrote: But for real I have 3 Pioneer players and none of them exhibit this. It's very odd and does make one wonder if there is something screwy in the AU. haha, yeah probably. Audioboyz you had any digital flutter issues with Pioneers? Like I said it developed in every single Pioneer I've owned. Terrible. Another Pioneer had side change issues, another would stutter the video - > never had these issues with Sony. Once the discs spins with a Sony it's rock solid in my experience. Will play right through and the audio and video will be stable. That's not saying Sonys don't have issues. One of my Sonys refuses to spin up 1 in 10 times. Another 3 Sony players had major tray and door issues that I ended up destroying in the process of trying to fix em. Anyway my next player will hopefully be a Sony MDP-999. I think a working HIL-C1 or C2EX is too much of a risk. With you on the HD CRTs Gypsy. Gonna have to prize mine from my cold dead hands! I realise with the comb filter in the KVHR36 I'm actually getting one of the better LD pictures around and I'm using a low end video processor and mid range players.
_________________ SONY MDP-355GX, DVDO iscan VP50, SONY KVHR-M36
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Post subject: Re: Recording of my LD-S9 / typical Pioneer Digital Audio fa Posted: 13 Jul 2019, 23:44 |
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Joined: 03 May 2004, 19:05 Posts: 8119 Location: Dullaware Has thanked: 1228 times Been thanked: 851 times
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forper wrote: Thanks dudes! If it doesn't work out I'll come back and blame you. Thanks again. Don't try a blowtorch either
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Post subject: Re: Recording of my LD-S9 / typical Pioneer Digital Audio fa Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 02:39 |
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Joined: 01 May 2016, 06:38 Posts: 2040 Location: Australia Has thanked: 334 times Been thanked: 222 times
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gypsy wrote: So far *knock on wood* I haven't had any player issues but my use case is just 4 players.
I haven't heard of that model, guessing it's specific to Australia. Looks like a Super Fine Pitch model. Honestly with these, I don't think you need the extra processing and I have a bunch of processors (Lumagen HDP, DVDO 30 w/ card, 50pro and Duo and some other projector specific and lesser models) that I could use if I felt it needed it. I think LD looks near perfect on these, and then I have the audio going to separate speakers because the tv speakers are not great though they are decent considering they are built in tv speakers from the early to mid 00s. Yeah I think in the US it was called a KD36XS955 or something. So you have one? Yeah I really feel satisfied with the picture on mine, the DVDO basically just allows me to tweak the aspect ratio which is really nice. It also automatically switches video sources which is really nice too so it's essential to me but I have a feeling it does nothing to improve the LD picture, it possibly improves VHS and DVD? For music LDs which is what I mostly watch I have digital out to my DSP/pre amp then analogue out to my amp and to my good speakers or headphones. For movies with boomy soundtracks I don't like risking my good speakers so I bypass to the TV speakers, which, at least compared to modern TVs, are very satisfactory to me. I feel really good about my setup right now. Over the years I've been through the KVHR breaking down, all my LD players being out of commission, the DVDO breaking down (PSU issue), my amps having serious issues but finally, finally (and touch a forest of wood) I'm satisfied and content and all I have to do is buy and watch more LDs!
_________________ SONY MDP-355GX, DVDO iscan VP50, SONY KVHR-M36
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