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Post subject: BEWARE buyer 'eliarias' from Pasadena (possible thief) Posted: 19 Aug 2012, 11:31 |
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DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT SHIP ANYTHING TO 'eliarias' in the USA (Pasadena). This user logged on LDDb.com once (from a personal USA AT&T ADSL access point: 63.201.188.178) and performed 2 similar transactions for 2 Japanese box sets on August 10th. At least on one transaction, payment was quickly made and LD shipped right away. Now Paypal is calling back to cancel the payment on the buyer's request: Quote: Dear [xxx], We were recently notified that one of your buyers filed a chargeback and asked the credit card issuer to reverse a payment made to you on 2012 Aug 10. The buyer claims that this purchase was made without authorization to use the credit card. Their credit card issuer needs additional information from you about this transaction. ----------------------------------- Transaction Details ----------------------------------- Buyer's Name: Mary Arias Buyer's Email: thearkmovement@hotmail.comBuyer's Transaction ID: [removed] Transaction Date: 2012 Aug 10 Transaction Amount: -$63.00 USD Case #: [removed] Your Transaction ID: [removed] ----------------------------------- What to Do Next ----------------------------------- Please respond within 10 days so that we can help resolve this chargeback. To respond, log in to your PayPal account and go to the Resolution Center to provide information about this transaction. The credit card issuer decides if the buyer's claim is legitimate. Once the credit card issuer receives your information, it may take up to 75 days to make a final decision. Because the credit card issuer has reversed the charge for this transaction, we've placed a temporary hold on the funds associated with this transaction until the case is resolved. Our user agreement explains our policies on holding funds. You might think someone in the family used someone else's card: PAYPAL Buyer's Name: Mary Arias Buyer's Email: thearkmovement@hotmail.comLDDb Buyer's Name: Eli Arias Buyer's Email: eliarias@me.comBut you can easily find an Eli Arias involved in the Ark Movement on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/eli.ariasThe "ARK" thing even has a post on Aug 10th with the same shipping address than the LDDb's account: https://www.facebook.com/theARKmovementThe A.R.K. Movement August 10 The ARK Movement C/O Pasadena Weekly 50 S. De Lacey Ave, Suite 200 Pasadena, CA 91105 Until things get clearer, consider anyone at this Name/Email/Address to be a thief and report any activity back to me ASAP. Julien
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Post subject: Re: BEWARE buyer 'eliarias' from Pasadena (possible thief) Posted: 19 Aug 2012, 11:40 |
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admin wrote: But you can easily find an Eli Arias involved in the Ark Movement on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/eli.ariasThe "ARK" thing even has a post on Aug 10th with the same shipping address than the LDDb's account: https://www.facebook.com/theARKmovementThe A.R.K. Movement August 10 The ARK Movement C/O Pasadena Weekly 50 S. De Lacey Ave, Suite 200 Pasadena, CA 91105 That is more than a little funny coming from an A.R.K (Acts of Random Kindness) member! Is this some sort of religious cult?
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Post subject: Re: BEWARE buyer 'eliarias' from Pasadena (possible thief) Posted: 20 Aug 2012, 12:09 |
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belturner wrote: I sold my scream 3 on ebay a year ago and the buyer paid immediately. After that he stated to Paypal that I sent him scream 2 on PAL laserdisc. Obviously a wily buyer given they know paypal would not see any difference in Scream 2 versus Scream 3 even though they are worlds apart in terms of collector value. Cheeky of them to also send back the PAL version of Scream 2 which is almost worthless although personally I prefer it to the US version as it came in a really thick sleeve superior to even the Japanese edition. I've developed my own failsafe system so I know any title that anyone wishes to return is the same copy I sent them and it has not been switched. I don't want to give too much detail away about what that entails - suffice to say if you try that stunt with me you will fail.
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Post subject: Re: BEWARE buyer 'eliarias' from Pasadena (possible thief) Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 05:57 |
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He even emailed me later on if I had any more rare releases for sale I asked paypal how they decided on this case. They just based themselves on the fact that he had more transactions than me on ebay even though his feedback was less than 100% positive, while mine was 100% positive. I didn't care too much about losing scream 3 over this, but it made me really angry that they could just refund the guy without any proof and take the money back out of my account.
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Post subject: Re: BEWARE buyer 'eliarias' from Pasadena (possible thief) Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 07:00 |
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Just have to post it once again for effect...... "Chances are this maggot has done this before................ " And to be sure, we are not referring to the thread subject.....YET ! LoL !
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belturner
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Post subject: Re: BEWARE buyer 'eliarias' from Pasadena (possible thief) Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 08:39 |
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Yes, I mailed with them many times, talked to them on phone and it was just like talking to a wall... I had better things to do so I just let it slide... The real loser is the guy who did this, not me
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Post subject: Re: BEWARE buyer 'eliarias' from Pasadena (possible thief) Posted: 22 Aug 2012, 07:06 |
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belturner wrote: Yes, I mailed with them many times, talked to them on phone and it was just like talking to a wall... I had better things to do so I just let it slide... The real loser is the guy who did this, not me Here's how Paypal really makes the decision on what to do in a case like yours: How can this case be resolved in a way that "looks good" but causes Paypal no loss.That's it. That's the criteria no matter what BS they give you as a reason. Both Paypal and Ebay hold all the cards in a showdown. They are the final arbiters of how to decide any case and so whose interest are they looking out for? They tell sellers they're looking out for them and they tell buyers the same thing. When push comes to shove, they are looking out for themselves. You can't even take them to small claims even if you can prove you're right without incurring expenses that are greater than the amount in question because, per the user agreements, you have to sue them in the jurisdictions where they have their offices. The only way to get a fair decision from Paypal or Ebay would be if you could actually have a third party arbitration, meaning a party without links to Paypal/Ebay. That's not available but should be. It's a fact that Paypal does make many determinations that are correct and fair, but only because that outcome coincides with what is in Paypal's best interest.
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Post subject: Re: BEWARE buyer 'eliarias' from Pasadena (possible thief) Posted: 22 Aug 2012, 08:13 |
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That's bloody cheeky. I have two items to pay for on eBay next week as my funds are a little shy as of last week with a few bills to pay, but bloody cheek for not paying so I guess a few want him to cough up the money! I often send the seller a pm stating when I can pay, the item is held by secured rather than still up for sale or bidding otherwise I'd lose it altogether so I don't no what's wrong with this 'eliarias' sounds like a real total tight a$$, I'm not well off with buying things but I cough up like everyone else does when buying Laserdiscs or paying my bills, I bet he doesn't even pay his, bills, I wonder if he's been black listed with bad credit debts. Has this guy been banned from Paypal and Ebay not that it matters he'll just get another credit card to BS sellers but soon his name will get to the banks and they won't grant him, or shouldn't grant him any credit card to defraud sellers. admin wrote: Until things get clearer, consider anyone at this Name/Email/Address to be a thief and report any activity back to me ASAP.
Julien If I come across anything that doesn't look like the norm, I'll post here. I wouldn't be surprised if he's peeking at this thread. Well let him, peek sooner later he'll get nicked, arrested for fraud. admin wrote: DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT SHIP ANYTHING TO 'eliarias' in the USA (Pasadena).
This user logged on LDDb.com once (from a personal USA AT&T ADSL access point: 63.201.188.178) and performed 2 similar transactions for 2 Japanese box sets on August 10th.
So he/her has pattern well they might change their behaviour but sooner or later always screw up because we're all human. So how did he or she manage to get two identities or maybe he's a shemale and saving up for sex operation.
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Post subject: Re: BEWARE buyer 'eliarias' from Pasadena (possible thief) Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 00:59 |
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admin wrote: DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT SHIP ANYTHING TO 'eliarias' in the USA (Pasadena). I have submitted the evidences listed in my original message to Paypal for review and contacted the buyer. Hopefully this is just one big misunderstanding or a Paypal glitch. I will keep everyone informed of the case updates. Rgds, Julien
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Post subject: Re: BEWARE buyer 'eliarias' from Pasadena (possible thief) Posted: 26 Aug 2012, 21:49 |
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roger wrote: Stupid question. Can you not get the police involved in this. Chances are this guy has been doing the rounds with this scam and certainly this would constitute fraud.
Roger Shore it would have to be the seller that got scammed.
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Post subject: Re: BEWARE buyer 'eliarias' from Pasadena (possible thief) Posted: 29 Aug 2012, 15:46 |
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Good afternoon Guys, I have just been reading about this and all of your replies. Thank you for all of your comments and thank you Julien for letting us all know about this. Hey belturner . . . . .Sorry to read what this slime did to you as this isn't pleasant at all. Take care all and try to shop safely. If I get treated like this then I will also let you all know, because we watch each others backs here, as that's what friends do. Regards
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