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samaron
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Post subject: Re: XRGB Mini Framemeister Posted: 28 Dec 2015, 10:16 |
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I bought this unit just before christmas while visiting Akihabara, Tokyo. This is probably the best unit when it comes to 240p sources, which is almost every console before the Dreamcast. Most scalers recognize the 240p signal wrong, which I tested after I got the unit. The most common case is that modern TVs mistake the signal for 480i, which creates undesired side-effects.
A big drawback (at least for me) is that the comb filter in the unit is bad, so I'd recommend using RGB to avoid rainbow colors. Keep in mind that the RGB connection on this unit is NOT wired after standard SCART that you would find on almost every TV. Connecting a regular SCART cable could cause damage. You either need an adapter or a SCART cable wired after what is called RGB21 or JP21. The connectors are identical, but wired differently. The Japanese for some reason use a different pinout.
When the XRGB-mini is tweaked, you should get very low input lag as well. A very good unit for vintage computers and video game systems. You can't remove the input lag completely, unless you use an CRT.
One of the other drawbacks is that is uses a long time syncing if the resolution changes. Some consoles switch between 240 and 480 resolutions.
If you have the cash, I'd highly recommend this unit. The best for 240p sources, as mentioned. From what I've read, the PMS Crystalio II is the best choice if you use consoles that output 480 or above. Though, that scaler is even more expensive.
_________________ Player: Pioneer HLD-X9 and CLD-2950 My LD collection Recently started collecting some anime on LD
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nissling
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Post subject: Re: XRGB Mini Framemeister Posted: 28 Dec 2015, 11:42 |
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I've had my XRGB-Mini for quite some time and I must say it's a much saner choice than picking up a CRT for retro gaming, and that comes from someone with two neat BVMs in my house. Input lag is a very overrated topic imo and unless you've got a really crappy TV then don't worry. On Shmups forum you will find tons of crazy people who're paranoid about the smallest possible amount of lag and are about as far away from rational as possible. Using the XRGB-Mini won't give you more lag than playing PS1 games on your PS3. Either way, a picture I recently took when using the Mini on my current TV. I'm using a first gen SFC as source with RGBs (duh), upscaled to 720p with scanlines and then scaled to 1080p in my TV.
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samaron
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Post subject: Re: XRGB Mini Framemeister Posted: 28 Dec 2015, 12:26 |
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Yes, input lag is a bit overrated. Though, my impression is that most people have crappy TVs. Have heard many times people tell they bought a good TV. Good in this case means dirt cheap. Almost everyone complain about lag. I do tell them to activate game mode, which seems to satisfy most people. If they hook up vintage video game systems, they often say "wow, can't remember the picture quality was this bad". Most people actually don't understand that the PQ is in fact worse. They just accept that they remembered wrong.
Personally I don't like using fake scanlines. If I am to have that, then it has to be a proper CRT. Currently I do have a Trinitron that I use, but soon getting a BVM.
If you can get the XRGB-mini directly from Japan, that would be cheaper. I bought mine for around 200 USD in Akihabara. They go for around 300 bucks on eBay.
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samaron
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Post subject: Re: XRGB Mini Framemeister Posted: 26 Jun 2016, 12:39 |
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Maybe LG have done some design-changes then. Remember reading about some guys that got TV logos burned in and had a long fight with LG to get the TV replaced. At the moment I don't have an OLED TV, only plasma. Probably will wait a couple of more years before I do buy one. I do however enjoy old tech, so for me a PVM is interesting either way. Just a shame they're extremely hard to find. The monitor I have came from a guy that did video production, but it doesn't have RGB. Only composite and s-video. It is also only 9"... I'd love to use my plasma for games, but I'm afraid more burn-in could happen. My old father loved to borrow my TV to read online news papers since it has a really big screen. Now I permanently have a firefox web browser around the edge of the screen. I have hooked up the XRGB-mini to my TV and it looks amazing, but only to test for a few minutes. At the moment I use an old Trinitron widescreen CRT for old games, but it has an awful comb filter. Lots of dot crawl. My SFC does have black smear on RGB. Have tried to aquire a 1chip type, but people are usually put off from the deal when I ask them to disassemble the console to check the mainboard. As far as I know, that is the only way to be 100% sure.
_________________ Player: Pioneer HLD-X9 and CLD-2950 My LD collection Recently started collecting some anime on LD
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Post subject: Re: XRGB Mini Framemeister Posted: 27 Jun 2016, 02:04 |
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I love the XRGB Mini, but it's no substitute for a PVM IMO. The Mini has pretty low lag, and I never really noticed it when playing it, but when I got my PVM I noticed I was magically way better at certain games, especially the SMB series and Punch Out. After getting readjusted to the PVM I disconnected the Mini and am considering selling it.
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