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hippiedalek
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Post subject: Re: I've never seen the '97 Star Wars SE's- until now Japan Posted: 07 Dec 2017, 17:13 |
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I used to do a bit of fan editing (though never Star Wars). It was a really interesting process taking various different versions of a film, using alternate takes, soundtracks, scenes, subplots, etc, and experimenting with the edit to see if you could come up with something better or just interesting.
Most of the times I didn't come up with something better or interesting but it really helped me appreciate the art of editing.
On paper fan editing is indeed illegal, but in general studios only have a problem if you sell the edit or make it available to download. And in general people in the fan edit scenes; both the people who make and watch them, have bought countless versions of each film along the way. So yes it's illegal but it's generally tolerated.
I've never been able to enjoy any of the Star Wars Special Editions, I've still not even managed to bring myself to see the latest Blu Rays versions. I saw an early Harmy version and thought it was a good effort, and the recent Silver Screen restoration was just beautiful. I hope with all the current rumours floating around about Disney buying 20th Century Fox we'll finally get an official restoration; if only so we don't have to rely on fan edits and dead media.
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clashradio
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Post subject: Re: I've never seen the '97 Star Wars SE's- until now Japan Posted: 07 Dec 2017, 23:32 |
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Joined: 07 Nov 2017, 05:22 Posts: 49 Location: United States Has thanked: 9 times Been thanked: 0 time
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hippiedalek wrote: I used to do a bit of fan editing (though never Star Wars). It was a really interesting process taking various different versions of a film, using alternate takes, soundtracks, scenes, subplots, etc, and experimenting with the edit to see if you could come up with something better or just interesting.
Most of the times I didn't come up with something better or interesting but it really helped me appreciate the art of editing.
On paper fan editing is indeed illegal, but in general studios only have a problem if you sell the edit or make it available to download. And in general people in the fan edit scenes; both the people who make and watch them, have bought countless versions of each film along the way. So yes it's illegal but it's generally tolerated.
I've never been able to enjoy any of the Star Wars Special Editions, I've still not even managed to bring myself to see the latest Blu Rays versions. I saw an early Harmy version and thought it was a good effort, and the recent Silver Screen restoration was just beautiful. I hope with all the current rumours floating around about Disney buying 20th Century Fox we'll finally get an official restoration; if only so we don't have to rely on fan edits and dead media. For my Fan Edits it's not really making the film better. I just like editing. Even goes for audio. I make my own custom mixes of old-school tunes. I'm just a picky a-hole on comedy....I don't like 1999/2000's comic relief that most people nowadays seem to enjoy. Call me a dinosaur I guess. But I certainly don't want to p**s people off by doing them. This is a laserdisc forum; I thought I'd make some friends as we are the outcasts still clinging on to a dead medium. Hate to say it folks; laserdiscs are dead. But I still love 'em. You know how many times I've been laughed at for even mentioning "laserdisc"..........
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hippiedalek
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Post subject: Re: I've never seen the '97 Star Wars SE's- until now Japan Posted: 08 Dec 2017, 09:05 |
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Joined: 20 Feb 2011, 19:23 Posts: 1033 Location: United Kingdom Has thanked: 30 times Been thanked: 26 times
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signofzeta wrote: How many times have you been laughed at for mentioning Star Wars? How many times have you been laughed at for mentioning things you love? Sucks doesn't it?
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firehorse_44
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Post subject: Re: I've never seen the '97 Star Wars SE's- until now Japan Posted: 08 Dec 2017, 09:09 |
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Joined: 11 Jun 2008, 06:10 Posts: 1617 Location: Milky Way-Sol System-Terra-USA-North Carlolina. Has thanked: 561 times Been thanked: 239 times
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"laughed at for mentioning laserdisc" Hmmmmmm This medium is dead per the contemporary over the counter market place venue I agree. Has been for nearly 17 years now ....... Yet, I disagree that it is a dead format. Far, far from it sir ...... It is alive and well in MANY homes around this big blue marble daily and nightly ........... Case in point - Look at all the laserdisc sales tally at the "recently sold" control panel here at the LDDB. This tally daily is just one clear litmus as to how vibrant and "alive" this media format still is currently. Ask Julien (our site Admin), DaDons, LaserDisc Vault, or Duffs ...... Would they agree that the format is dead ? Perhaps they could weigh in. I will not speak for them. LaserDisc is alive and well in my home. My son amazes his friends with vintage comedy, epic music, and most excellent science fiction from the days of yore. As an international dealer, sales this year have shown my highest grossing year since joining the LDDB in 2008. A clear example that this format is not dead worldwide. I will cut you some slack being a new(er) member here, however I would ask that you rethink your statement that you touted "laserdisc is dead". If it were dead I would not be in a dedicated forum challenging you regarding your statement ...... Signofzeta asked a pertinent question ....... and apropos in another light as well ........ Cheers to the membership .....
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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: I've never seen the '97 Star Wars SE's- until now Japan Posted: 08 Dec 2017, 21:34 |
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hippiedalek wrote: signofzeta wrote: How many times have you been laughed at for mentioning Star Wars? How many times have you been laughed at for mentioning things you love? Sucks doesn't it? Honestly it doesn’t happen very often and when it does it’s usually someone who has no idea what they are talking about (ie “Laserdisc is old and dumb” from someone who watches everything on a phone and refuses to see black and white movies). If they do have taste then it’s probably a pretty joke and I laugh along. I think people who are primarily music fans have tougher skin in this area. I have millions of jokes about all my favorite stuff. “Sense of humor” is sometimes what it’s called I think.
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harlock
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Post subject: Re: I've never seen the '97 Star Wars SE's- until now Japan Posted: 16 Dec 2017, 10:37 |
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Joined: 20 Oct 2011, 21:57 Posts: 188 Location: United States Has thanked: 2 times Been thanked: 54 times
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Man, the "risk" thread was mentioned? Stuff of legend - with a good natured Bayview Duncan trading stories before he turned to the Dark Side of laserdisc player repair, alongside with posters like JamesMario from this vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyAhMyDXr7sThis is all coded Kabbalistic inner-circle, SEELE Instrumentality Committee-tier lddb stuff, SW preservation edit guy, so don't be too freaked out
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clashradio
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Post subject: Re: I've never seen the '97 Star Wars SE's- until now Japan Posted: 16 Dec 2017, 16:09 |
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Joined: 07 Nov 2017, 05:22 Posts: 49 Location: United States Has thanked: 9 times Been thanked: 0 time
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rein-o wrote: Ran across this the other day. Was looking to see if my amp (Sony str-de945) had a built-in RF modulator. Sony seems to think it's ok to dub your LD's onto a vhs tape. What's the difference in transferring to BD?
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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: I've never seen the '97 Star Wars SE's- until now Japan Posted: 19 Dec 2017, 03:19 |
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signofzeta wrote: Well, Macrovision stops it, for one. Lucas and Disney are other ways of stopping too.
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laserbite34
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Post subject: Re: I've never seen the '97 Star Wars SE's- until now Japan Posted: 19 Dec 2017, 05:38 |
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Joined: 10 Oct 2006, 17:10 Posts: 3742 Location: United Kingdom Has thanked: 5 times Been thanked: 4 times
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signofzeta wrote: I read the post wrong, sorry. Macrovision does NOT exist on LD. I thought this was a different question. Yeah used to run LD though VCR and it was never affected with image brightness raising and lowering except for some few early DVD MGM but all the other hardcore ones universal the picture had havoc with (video gain control).
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