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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: Last Beta movie released? Posted: 03 Feb 2018, 17:58 |
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I wasn’t a huge consumer of AV stuff in the 90s but I read all the magazines and I was working at a rental place and reading a lot of catalogs and magazines and my personal recollection is that I never saw SQUAT for Beta releases after even 1990. I’d say 86 or 87 was the real “end” in retail. By the time the 90s came around all the Beta jokes had been made and stuff was over. I never saw a trace of it. I knew some hardcore anime fans with Beta VCRs but by the time serious nation-wide fan subbing took off Super VHS was a thing so screw Beta. Whoever was buying The Fugative in 1994 was a serious fan getting his stuff direct. However, I’ve been collecting stuff for way too long to make too many definitive declarative statements about anything. If they really were manufacturing as few as 20 at a time it’s safe to say that unless you find an list from Sony you can’t even begin to guess. They could be making them all for a hotel PPV service or an airline or some weird luxury prison in Saudi Arabia. Municipalities hang on to gear for ages sometimes so it could be something make for a DMV waiting room or a workplace sexual harassment training tape.
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elahrairrah
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Post subject: Re: Last Beta movie released? Posted: 03 Feb 2018, 22:04 |
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signofzeta wrote: I wasn’t a huge consumer of AV stuff in the 90s but I read all the magazines and I was working at a rental place and reading a lot of catalogs and magazines and my personal recollection is that I never saw SQUAT for Beta releases after even 1990. I’d say 86 or 87 was the real “end” in retail. By the time the 90s came around all the Beta jokes had been made and stuff was over. I never saw a trace of it. I knew some hardcore anime fans with Beta VCRs but by the time serious nation-wide fan subbing took off Super VHS was a thing so screw Beta. Whoever was buying The Fugative in 1994 was a serious fan getting his stuff direct. However, I’ve been collecting stuff for way too long to make too many definitive declarative statements about anything. If they really were manufacturing as few as 20 at a time it’s safe to say that unless you find an list from Sony you can’t even begin to guess. They could be making them all for a hotel PPV service or an airline or some weird luxury prison in Saudi Arabia. Municipalities hang on to gear for ages sometimes so it could be something make for a DMV waiting room or a workplace sexual harassment training tape. Same here. After the first video store I ever went to, Video Image in Burlington, NJ, took down their Betamax section in 86 or 87 I never saw another Betamax movie in a store of any type EVER after that (and believe me, I would hit any and ALL video and music stores I ever came across back in the day--so that's saying something.) Only the odd Betamax blank tape in Sam Goody's or Tower Records. So to me, Betamax was over by that point. Even the mighty Movies Unlimited who had a HUGE mail order catalog from the late 80s to through the 90s listed NO Betamax titles in it whatsoever. Lo and behold, I managed to get my hands on a Betamax release of Disney's Beauty and the Beast (released on video in 1992) not too long ago, and from what I've been able to find, Aladdin is also on Beta. So never say never.
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takeshi666
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Post subject: Re: Last Beta movie released? Posted: 04 Feb 2018, 15:38 |
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I actually got my hands on a Betamax machine last year. Found it at a recycling center, in full working order, with a remote, didn't pay a penny for it.
I still find it crazy that the damn thing is as old as I am - it was released the year I was born - but it still works great, while my Samsung blu-ray player started malfunctioning not even a year after I got it!
The problem with trying to figure out what the "last" betamax title is that the format didn't disappear almost overnight like Laserdisc did, but simply faded away from public view, first from the shelves, then from the catalogs. I don't think we should count professional, non-consumer releases tho, that'd just make your head spin.
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elahrairrah
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Post subject: Re: Last Beta movie released? Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 19:52 |
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nordkorea wrote: Yes, Disney was the last company releasing beta videos until 1992. Not quite since I've found that The Lion King was released on Beta by Disney, and that hit the home video market in 1995. And in a previous post, there's an article that states that Mission: Impossible is the last major studio beta release.
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Post subject: Re: Last Beta movie released? Posted: 05 May 2018, 08:57 |
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I think the last Betamax-release is Maze Runner (Part III) - Death Cure
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takeshi666
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Post subject: Re: Last Beta movie released? Posted: 05 May 2018, 23:57 |
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thommen wrote: I think the last Betamax-release is Maze Runner (Part III) - Death Cure What the hell
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ertoili
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Post subject: Re: Last Beta movie released? Posted: 10 May 2018, 17:29 |
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nice info folks.....i have been studying today and found this ; http://www.digimad.es/en/video-format-c ... x-imx.htmlBetacam SP chrominance is 120 lines the same as LD , so the LD higher lights would make the LD colors more vivid i guess although not as precisse (composite), anyway what a magnificent format LD is even compared to Pro-things like the Betacam SP
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ertoili
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Post subject: Re: Last Beta movie released? Posted: 10 May 2018, 17:37 |
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a "DVD to Betacam SP" vs "DVD to LD" ......i want to watch that ! a "DVD to SVHS" vs "DVD to Betacam SP" is a good match too I read somewhere that Broadcast tv stations abandoned S-VHS in favour of Betacam SP cause the multi-generation capabilities of the VHS were horrific
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elahrairrah
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Post subject: Re: Last Beta movie released? Posted: 10 May 2018, 18:10 |
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ertoili wrote: a "DVD to Betacam SP" vs "DVD to LD" ......i want to watch that ! a "DVD to SVHS" vs "DVD to Betacam SP" is a good match too I read somewhere that Broadcast tv stations abandoned S-VHS in favour of Betacam SP cause the multi-generation capabilities of the VHS were horrific Nah, I don't believe any TV station would use any iteration of VHS or S-VHS. It just didn't have the color resolution for broadcast TV. The TV station equipment standards in the 80s were Betacam, Betacam SP, M (Matsushita's competing format to Sony's Betacam), MII (developed to compete with Betacam SP) and 1" Type-C. Maybe you were thinking of Sony's U-Matic and U-Matic SP formats? Those were used by some TV Stations despite having less than stellar resolution (but higher signal-to-noise ratio.)
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