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megarat
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Post subject: LaserDisc titles with noteworthy audio/music quality Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 00:59 |
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Hey all. LD is well-known for having the capability for high-quality audio, usually competitive with DVD and even Blu-Ray. I'm curious about what titles are generally regarded as being examples of high-quality audio, especially in the music department. For example, the DTS version of Jurassic Park (1993) [43115] is frequently cited as being the paragon of what LD can do in the audio department. On a more-obscure note, the widescreen collector's edition of Pink Floyd: The Wall: Widescreen Collector's Edition (1982) [ML106344] apparently has a noteworthy AC-3 track (compared to other movie versions, that is), and the 1983 collection of music videos from Duran Duran: Duran Duran (1983) [PA-83-044] is also apparently regarded has having an audio quality that rivals or exceeds even CD sources. What other LDs are out there with audio tracks that are regarded as worthy of note?
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admin
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Post subject: Re: LaserDisc titles with noteworthy audio/music quality Posted: 18 Sep 2018, 04:24 |
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forper wrote: True Lies. DTS I suppose? My go-to demo for newcomer to LD was usually Eagles: Hell Freezes Over - DTS (1994) [ID4065GF] - Hotel California. Since the song is so well-known, the added live 5.1 mix always caught people by surprise! Julien
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ldfan
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Post subject: Re: LaserDisc titles with noteworthy audio/music quality Posted: 18 Sep 2018, 05:44 |
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signofzeta wrote: I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen an analog 8”. Are they PAL or something? IIRC 8” and digital audio hit the market at the same time. I’ve never seen a USDM player that could play 8” but not Digital Sound. It’s actually very common. Many 8” music LD’s during the early to mid 80’s (I think) had only analog encoding. I actually own quite a few and they sound fine. Many of them did, however, get digital re-issues later on.
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forper
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Post subject: Re: LaserDisc titles with noteworthy audio/music quality Posted: 18 Sep 2018, 08:43 |
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admin wrote: forper wrote: True Lies. DTS I suppose? I don't know, I just play it in stereo on my setup.
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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: LaserDisc titles with noteworthy audio/music quality Posted: 18 Sep 2018, 12:25 |
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forper wrote: admin wrote: forper wrote: True Lies. DTS I suppose? I don't know, I just play it in stereo on my setup.
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remav
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Post subject: Re: LaserDisc titles with noteworthy audio/music quality Posted: 18 Sep 2018, 15:16 |
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ldfan wrote: signofzeta wrote: I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen an analog 8”. Are they PAL or something? IIRC 8” and digital audio hit the market at the same time. I’ve never seen a USDM player that could play 8” but not Digital Sound. It’s actually very common. Many 8” music LD’s during the early to mid 80’s (I think) had only analog encoding. I actually own quite a few and they sound fine. Many of them did, however, get digital re-issues later on. Here's an analog only from my collection. (One of the few that has both Front & Back cover picture): Thomas Dolby (1984) [PA-84-M011] Thanks ldfan. When you say they sound fine, how would you say they compare to the same songs on vinyl? (...because mine are not close! )
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ldfan
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Post subject: Re: LaserDisc titles with noteworthy audio/music quality Posted: 18 Sep 2018, 18:09 |
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remav wrote: Thanks ldfan. When you say they sound fine, how would you say they compare to the same songs on vinyl? (...because mine are not close! ) I really couldn’t say since I don’t spin vinyl at all (still considering getting into it as I did re-acquire my brother’s vintage JVC unit). However, people have noted that analog audio on LD is about the equivalent of VHS/Beta HiFi which I do concur appears close (I might give the latter the edge since HiFi doesn’t require any sort of noise reduction like CX used on LD analog audio). In any case, I have a lot of analog only LD’s and I do recall some anime titles like Cyber City Oedo and Laputa (original Japanese releases) sounding fantastic (especially with Dolby Pro-Logic engaged). But rein-o does have a point; source material can easily play a part on why LD analog audio may or may not sound great.
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remav
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Post subject: Re: LaserDisc titles with noteworthy audio/music quality Posted: 19 Sep 2018, 21:45 |
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While I'm mainly just happy to be able to see some of these old videos, I'm pretty sure the original quality just isn't there. (still interested rein-o? ) Disappointing as they really are in good shape just looking at them. Thanks everyone.
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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: LaserDisc titles with noteworthy audio/music quality Posted: 19 Sep 2018, 22:06 |
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remav wrote: While I'm mainly just happy to be able to see some of these old videos, I'm pretty sure the original quality just isn't there. (still interested rein-o? ) Disappointing as they really are in good shape just looking at them. Thanks everyone. I guess you haven't seen them back in the day on MTV, the PQ was pretty s****y even then. Don't forget, these were shot sometimes with at the time top of the line stuff but that would have been video tape camcorders which were not the best even then. Can you imagine a VHS camcorder recording a music video back in the day Well they did it.
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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: LaserDisc titles with noteworthy audio/music quality Posted: 19 Sep 2018, 23:03 |
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Now that I think about it I have a pro deck with a tray that takes 8” but not CD. That must have been the window. And yeah, many music videos were terrible quality. Usually shot in the dark too. On a 13” b/w TV over VHF you wouldn’t notice.
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