It is currently 28 Mar 2024, 15:56




 Page 1 of 1 [ 10 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: The Goonies releases
PostPosted: 02 Dec 2018, 14:04 
Serious fan
Serious fan
User avatar

Joined: 11 Mar 2005, 01:16
Posts: 128
Location: Greece
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 13 times
hello everyone
has any one notice that all goonies releases japan and us are all single disc two sides except [10JL-11474] which is a 2 disc 3 sides with gatefold.
i wonder why since all releases have the same duration
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Goonies releases
PostPosted: 02 Dec 2018, 14:27 
Site Admin
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: 07 Aug 2002, 23:37
Posts: 4540
Location: Tokyo
Has thanked: 292 times
Been thanked: 1136 times
Given the release time, I think the Laserdisc Wikipedia entry has the solution:

As Pioneer introduced digital audio to LaserDisc in 1985, it further refined the CAA format. CAA55 was introduced in 1985 with a total playback capacity per side of 55 minutes 5 seconds, reducing the video capacity to resolve bandwidth issues with the inclusion of digital audio.

At 114min. run-time, with extra logos and smart side-breaks, I think it couldn't fit on a single disc at that time.

Goonies, The (1985) [11474 LV] had Analog audio only.
Goonies, The (1985) [10JL-11474] added Digital Audio.

Julien
_________________
HARDWARE DATABASE
HLD-X0/9 LD-S9 OPPO 105/205 SL-1200G
LDD-1 MSC-4000 R2144 PONTUS II C45 MC257
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Goonies releases
PostPosted: 02 Dec 2018, 16:33 
Jedi Master
Jedi Master
User avatar

Joined: 03 May 2004, 19:05
Posts: 8093
Location: Dullaware
Has thanked: 1218 times
Been thanked: 841 times
Goonies, The (1985) [10JL-11474]

Very odd, I didn't think this would have fallen into that situation.

I was looking at my discs and any of the older ones that are longer in length and single discs are from 1987.
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Goonies releases
PostPosted: 02 Dec 2018, 19:57 
Serious fan
Serious fan
User avatar

Joined: 11 Mar 2005, 01:16
Posts: 128
Location: Greece
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 13 times
If that’s the case why all the later digital releases including the last widescreen us one aren’t 2 discs?
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Goonies releases
PostPosted: 02 Dec 2018, 19:59 
Site Admin
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: 07 Aug 2002, 23:37
Posts: 4540
Location: Tokyo
Has thanked: 292 times
Been thanked: 1136 times
giannis wrote:
If that’s the case why all the later digital releases including the last widescreen us one aren’t 2 discs?


Keep reading Wikipedia:

By 1987, Pioneer had overcome the technical challenges and was able to once again encode in CAA60, allowing a total of 60 minutes 5 seconds.

Julien
_________________
HARDWARE DATABASE
HLD-X0/9 LD-S9 OPPO 105/205 SL-1200G
LDD-1 MSC-4000 R2144 PONTUS II C45 MC257
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Goonies releases
PostPosted: 02 Dec 2018, 20:19 
Serious fan
Serious fan
User avatar

Joined: 11 Mar 2005, 01:16
Posts: 128
Location: Greece
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 13 times
Yes Julien but from what I read I assumed that they didn’t released digital audio discs till 87 because of this issue.searching on lddb chronologically there are very few digital discs from 85-86-87 era
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Goonies releases
PostPosted: 02 Dec 2018, 21:08 
Site Admin
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: 07 Aug 2002, 23:37
Posts: 4540
Location: Tokyo
Has thanked: 292 times
Been thanked: 1136 times
That's also how I finally understood why some early 90's LDs were Analog audio when Digital Audio was available for years.

Ex: Whitesnake: Live! (1983) [TOLW-3061]

55 minutes.

Either they didn't want to make a new master and used the 80's initial release one.
Or the original sound master was analog only.
Or adding the digital audio tracks might have pushed the LD over 2 sides for a few minutes. Didn't make sense.

Other similar release:

Howard Jones: Like to Get to Know You Well (1983) [35P6-9012] (58min.)

Julien
_________________
HARDWARE DATABASE
HLD-X0/9 LD-S9 OPPO 105/205 SL-1200G
LDD-1 MSC-4000 R2144 PONTUS II C45 MC257
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Goonies releases
PostPosted: 02 Dec 2018, 21:46 
Jedi Knight
Jedi Knight
User avatar

Joined: 14 Jan 2010, 09:44
Posts: 5969
Location: Ann Arbor
Has thanked: 1273 times
Been thanked: 1090 times
Yeah, I guess it would have been hard to argue for a new 10 min side just for digital audio back when the vast majority of people barely knew it existed.

I found this thread interesting.
_________________
All about LD care, inner sleeves, shrink wrap, etc.

https://youtu.be/b3O-vHpHRpM
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Goonies releases
PostPosted: 03 Dec 2018, 21:16 
Advanced fan
Advanced fan
User avatar

Joined: 21 Dec 2002, 18:44
Posts: 959
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 122 times
As Julien mentions above, it was the additional of Digital Sound that pushed Goonies to 3 sides. It was true that Digital Sound could only be encoded as CAA55. Japan opted for adding a disc, where US dropped Digital Sound. This was the same for the original edition of "Back to the Future" as well.
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Goonies releases
PostPosted: 04 Dec 2018, 11:28 
Site Admin
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: 07 Aug 2002, 23:37
Posts: 4540
Location: Tokyo
Has thanked: 292 times
Been thanked: 1136 times
blam1 wrote:
This was the same for the original edition of "Back to the Future" as well.


Indeed!

Initial 1986 Japanese release 3 sides with Digital Audio: Back to the Future (1985) [SF098-1168]
Initial 1986 USA release 2 sides with Analog-CX only: Back to the Future (1985) [40196]
Japan 1989 re-release on 2 sides: Back to the Future (1985) [SF047-1586]

Julien
_________________
HARDWARE DATABASE
HLD-X0/9 LD-S9 OPPO 105/205 SL-1200G
LDD-1 MSC-4000 R2144 PONTUS II C45 MC257
Offline
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
 Page 1 of 1 [ 10 posts ] 


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 15 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: