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 Post subject: Re: Aluminium laserdiscs
Posted: 30 Nov 2011, 01:36 

The aluminum plate discs were for industrial applications. Specifically games like "Dragon's Lair", "Space Ace" and "Thayer's quest" which used were used in players with actual HE-Neon tubes, and industrial players like the PR-7820 and LD-V1000. As discs play, they heat up, and the aluminum was designed to keep the disc flat and not cone-warping under the heat of contastant playback.

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Posted: 11 May 2012, 19:38 

I think I've finally decoded the Pioneer catalog numbers for Pioneer Europe. For example, The UK edition of Titanic is PLFED-34501

PL = Pioneer LaserDisc

Next character is program type:
F; Film
T; Televison
M; Music
S; Scenery
K; Karaoke

Next is Language:
A; ?? (Only seen on Rolling in the Sky titles)
E; English
F; French
G; German
I; Italian
M; Original Language w/ Subtitles (either fixed or TeleText) - French Release
N; Original Language w/ Subtitles (either fixed or TeleText) - Netherlands (French Karaoke seems to use N too)
S; Spanish
C; Classical (Music)
J; Jazz (Music)
P; Pop (Music)
W; ?? (Only seen on Windham Hill titles)

Next is Side count
A; 1
B; 2
C; 3
D; 4
S; Box Set

Next 4 are sequential numbers starting at;
0001 for Music
2001 for Scenery
3001 for Films & TV
4001 for Karaoke Netherlands
6001 for Karaoke French

Last digit is always;
1; 12" discs
4; 8" discs

Now, this is all based on digging through the database here on LDDB, and making some extrapolations. Does anyone have additions or corrections?

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Posted: 19 Feb 2013, 18:57 

I have been reluctant to add all of the GM discs to the DiscoVision web site because I have no catalog or listing of all available titles. If someone has a complete listing of discs in the GM catalog, I'll add them to the site.

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Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 20:52 

I'm sure I speak for every DiscoVision collector - we don't collect them for the quality of the mastering or the transfer. If you want to watch "Psycho", there are far better mediums to view the Hitchcock masterpiece.

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Posted: 31 Jan 2016, 21:57 

Discovision changed the inner sleeves several times. Cloth type, paper with the liners, paper only, square cut clear sleeves. The ECs started in Japan, and with only a few exceptions, that is what all Japanese titles shipped with.

The cloth/felt type are infused with an ... oil I guess you can call it. The idea was to keep moisture away from the discs. All they succeeded in doing was coating the disc with gunk that you had to wipe off.

The square cut transparent sleeves are horrible and age very poorly. Very few of them are still intact. Typically the will literally crumble as you take the disc out of the sleeve, or try to put it back in. I junk them almost as a rule. Give them a good tug to make sure they won't crumble on you.

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Posted: 03 Mar 2016, 21:00 

PDO UK did a different "dead side" route with a blank mirrored side. There isn't anything to "uncover".

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 Post subject: Re: DTS stereo?
Posted: 25 Aug 2016, 20:30 

New Line used DTS exclusively on "The Mask." DTS offered a "Dolby Surround" compatible 4:2:4 soundtrack on the feature prints, called DTS Stereo. Since using "Dolby Surround" or "Dolby Stereo" would require the payment of royalties, the DTS stereo option was covered by the royalties already paid for DTS 6-Track.

That same 4:2:4 track is what all 2.0 channel stereo programs for "The Mask" used. No Dolby royalties on the video if they don't say "Dolby" on the jacket, and provided they didn't use a dolby encoder when making the 4:2:4 track.

For the Dolby Digital LD, the PCM track is still the DTS Stereo mix. On the DTS LD, the Analog tracks are DTS Stereo (incorrectly listed here on LDDB as Dolby Surround).

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Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 19:47 

To me this is an OEM. But when it's clearly the same player on the outside - like the Halcyon player was - and the Magnavox equivalents too (of the Pioneer LD-700), a "Rebadge" tag makes sense. Or maybe Rebranding.

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Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 23:39 

I've got 2 DVL-919E players that show 220-240V. I have had ZERO problems plugging them straight into a 110v outlet in the US. If there was an issue, all of the DV* series LD players are the same basic design and you could simply pull the 120V board out of a US player and load it into the 220V player.

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Posted: 31 Oct 2017, 03:01 

OK, as outlined above, Channel 0 and 1 are on by default on all decoders. I believe they contain the same data. The LG-1 stand-alone decoder can individually select each channel, or combination of channels, or all of them together. None of the players I've come across can do that. The only LDG equipped player I have is the DVL-919(J), which has "Mode 1" (channels 0 and 1) and "Mode 2" (Channel 2). On the CAV Star Wars trilogy, they have Channel 2 subtitles only in the supplemental materials on side 6 of each film.

On Aladdin, channel 3 has "extra" stuff which outlines (in Japanese) what Genie is mimicking. (Slot Machine, Muhammad Ali, Ed Sullivan, etc). Unless there are Karaoke players that allow you to select channels other than 1 & 2, a stand-alone decoder is the only way to see the "extras".

To sum... The two "Star Wars Trilogy" CAV sets (one with book, one without) are the only instances I have seen of LDG Channel 2, and Aladdin CAV is the only instance I've seen of Channel 3.

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 Post subject: Re: DTS Collection Complete
Posted: 04 Dec 2017, 20:25 

I completed my DTS collection back in January (worldwide) - the last holdouts were "Schlafes Bruder" from Germany and the test pressing of "Jurassic Park".

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 Post subject: Re: DTS Collection Complete
Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 19:00 

There are a handful of stand-alone DTS decoders:

McIntosh MSD4
Parasound P/DD-1550
Millennium 2.4.6

The Millennium does ONLY DTS. The McIntosh and Parasound units do DD and DTS.

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Posted: 04 Jan 2018, 19:29 

Several years ago, I made my own version of this by stacking two LX-1000s together, both attached to a signal sensing DVDO unit, with the DVDO also carrying the audio. Then the DVDO was connected to the TV set and amp via one set of cables. To get it to work properly, I'd load the two discs, usually a title with side 3, sometimes 3 and 4, then turn off player two, and start player one.

The disc would play through sides 1 and 2 with all functions available. When it was done, I simply hit the power button on the remote. Player one shut off and player two turned on at the same time, and the DVDO switched over to player two in a flash automatically, so the title would continue. Of course, this only works well if you have two players that are basically the same with the same quality output, and a unit that will automatically switch the A/V signal to a single output.
Some of the industrial models have control setups to allow ganging them together. For example, if you have serial control on a couple of LD-V8000s, you can assign each one a unique ID, & send strings of commands to each one telling it what to do. And they can be slaved to a master sync source, so if you also have a serial-control switcher, you can cut from one to another without a single frame's delay.

Several of the Karaoke players have a feature called "Relay Play" where the player will trigger the next one to start. Some even have A/V inputs so you only need to output one signal to the monitor. I've not actually seen one in action.

On the original topic, I know the LD-W1 was issued in the US and Japan, but I've heard there is an Industrial model that is white. I have never seen a picture, or even know what the model number is.

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Posted: 16 Jan 2018, 23:16 

Yeah, side changes are substantially worse on the W1 than any other player by a mile. It depends on what side you are on and where you are headed but I think Side 2 to Side 3 is the slowest.

Mine recently broke (!) and I haven’t had time to look inside.

Yes, the 2-3 side break is the longest. When I'm playing a 3-sided title, I put the second disc with side 4 up and then tell it to play ABD. This leaves the player mechanism upside down cutting down on the time to flip it back over for side 3.

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Posted: 17 Jan 2018, 19:17 

My DVL 909 developed a weird problem. Every several seconds a white dot races through the screen. I know it's not laser rot. It can happen in pretty much every part of the screen.

Anyone experienced this and knows what it is ?

I picked up a DVL-919 from Japan and it had this issue. I replaced every board and the LaserDisc pickup to no effect. I ended up replacing the spindle motor and platform from an DVL-919 from Hong Kong and the problem went away. I am pretty sure it was the platform assembly itself and not the spindle motor.

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Posted: 12 Feb 2018, 17:49 

You've got a couple of issues. The rubber clamp has turned to goo, as you have found out. You'll have to get a new one. However, the bigger issue is your carriage wire. If you tilt the player side to side and the carriage moves freely, the carriage wire has either broken or come off the carriage motor. If it's broken, it will have to be replaced. If it's simply come off the pulley, re-threading it is a bit tricky. It's two wraps on the motor if memory serves. But you must be careful, because if you wrap the wire on the motor incorrectly, the spindle will move backward of the intended direction. (I learned that the hard way). You can't get the carriage wire new any more, so you'll have to find a broken player somewhere that has a wire intact.

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Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 21:30 

Dead Poets Society (1989) (Uncut) [7821 AS] has a 144 minute cut on LD where all other versions are the theatrical cut of 129 minutes. There are also 2 editions of "Outrageous Fortune", one which gives top billing to Shelly Long and the other to Bette Midler . The only differences are the jackets, and opening/closing credits. All DVD editions are the "Bette Midler" version.

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Posted: 21 Mar 2018, 18:46 

That's the least-borken Magnavision player I've seen on Youtube, ever! (In fact, I think that's the only time I've seen one sort of play a disk... made after the early 80's ;) )

Don't be fooled. That image is NOT from the Magnavision player. The player had no "search to the start" function and would begin playback at the inner limit. The horizontal roll indicates sync from the player and for the image to start that quickly after the roll indicates a player off-screen was in "freeze-frame" and started. Additionally NONE of the trick play procedures touted were available on this player. The VH-8000 was more akin to the LD-660 in terms of features than the VP-1000 Pioneer issued in 1980.

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 Post subject: Re: AC-3 Capable LD Players
Posted: 01 May 2018, 18:12 

This is, by no means, a definitive list but this is what I've compiled in my research of players.

Denon LA-200
Denon LA-2300
Denon LA-2300A
Denon LA-2700
Denon LA-3300
Denon LA-3300G
Denon LA-3500
Denon LA-V200G
Kenwood LD-K300V
Kenwood LVD-290
Kenwood LVD-490V
Kenwood LVD-590V
Kenwood LVD-K590V
Marantz LV-520
Mitsubishi M-V6027
Mitsubishi M-V7057
Onkyo DX-V350
Onkyo DX-V370
Onkyo DX-V500
Panasonic LX-H680U
Panasonic LX-V820EN
Panasonic LX-V830EN
Panasonic LX-V850EN
Panasonic LX-V860EN
Panasonic LX-V870EN
Panasonic LX-V880EN
Pioneer CLD-110KVT
Pioneer CLD-210KVT
Pioneer CLD-2760K
Pioneer CLD-3760KV
Pioneer CLD-59
Pioneer CLD-79
Pioneer CLD-99
Pioneer CLD-D390
Pioneer CLD-D3V
Pioneer CLD-D406
Pioneer CLD-D500
Pioneer CLD-D504
Pioneer CLD-D505
Pioneer CLD-D515 (1)
Pioneer CLD-D580
Pioneer CLD-D590
Pioneer CLD-D5V
Pioneer CLD-D604
Pioneer CLD-D605
Pioneer CLD-D606
Pioneer CLD-D700
Pioneer CLD-D704
Pioneer CLD-D780
Pioneer CLD-D790
Pioneer CLD-D925
Pioneer CLD-D99
Pioneer CLD-HF7G
Pioneer CLD-HF9G
Pioneer CLD-K8V
Pioneer CLD-R4
Pioneer CLD-R5
Pioneer CLD-R6G
Pioneer CLD-R7G
Pioneer CLD-S105
Pioneer CLD-S290
Pioneer CLD-S300V
Pioneer CLD-S304
Pioneer CLD-S315 (1)
Pioneer CLD-S500VT
Pioneer CLD-V870
Pioneer CLD-V880
Pioneer DVL-700
Pioneer DVL-9
Pioneer DVL-90
Pioneer DVL-909
Pioneer DVL-91
Pioneer DVL-919
Pioneer DVL-919E
Pioneer DVL-DVK1000
Pioneer DVL-DVK900
Pioneer DVL-H9
Pioneer DVL-K88
Pioneer DVL-V888
Pioneer HLD-X0
Pioneer HLD-X9
Pioneer LD-S9
ProScan PSLD46
RCA LDR611
Sony MDP-V1
Sony MDP-V10
Sony MDP-V7
Sony MDP-V70K
Sony MDP-V7K
Sony MDP-V90K
Sony MDP-V9K
Yamaha CDV-W901

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 Post subject: Re: CX encoding
Posted: 23 Jul 2018, 22:57 

There is a difference between 2.0 Mono and 1.0 Mono. LaserDisc, either digital or analog, are going to be 2.0 mono, the same program on Left and Right channels. Usually, this is the way Blu-ray titles are also done, 2.0 mono. Now, Warner Bros is the exception where they actually encode their titles as 1.0, which will always be "center" channel. It makes me nuts!

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 Post subject: Re: The Matrix LD vs DVD
Posted: 30 Jul 2018, 15:47 

If you go back to my original entry on this tread, I've included my 1999 screen grab of the LD v DVD image.

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Posted: 25 Sep 2018, 17:51 

This is a 7 pin connector on the DVDM board CN106 and is listed as RS232C, so it "should" comply with standard serial protocols and voltages. It's on the edge of the board between the two cables that go down to the CLDM board.

1 - NC
2 - GND
3 - +5v
4 - CTS
5 - DTR
6 - RXD
7 - TXD

One of my 919E boards has a little fob in this port that makes it region free. If I remove the fob, the player reverts to its original region coding.

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Posted: 26 Oct 2018, 20:29 

Max Headroom (RCA - First Season (6 episodes))
Lucas (Fox)
Night Crossing (Disney)
Song of the South (Disney)

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Posted: 16 Nov 2018, 00:55 

To my knowledge, the "Closed Captions" standard was only adopted in NTSC. They are available in the US and Japan (but I've never seen Japanese captions). There are a few TeleText discs issued in UK, it looks like less than 100.

https://www.lddb.com/search.php?adv_search=*&caption=5

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Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 04:44 

This is the same belt that Pioneer used on most of their later CLD series players and all of their DVL and DVK players. VEB1184 is the pioneer part.

If the belt on ebay is truly a 4.0, it's going to be too large. I use 3.5 belts, although I've seen some use a 3.6 belt. I would be worried a 4.0 belt is going to slip.
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