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Posted: 20 Jul 2023, 20:34
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| The Multilator is absolutely BRILLIANT. I have it on Blu Ray though, but still it's a great film, lots of fun. Highly recommended. |
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Posted: 21 Jul 2023, 15:16
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Posted: 24 Aug 2023, 22:46
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I got a copy on the way too. Good job you didn't spend long looking for a DVD or Blu Ray as there isn't one. It's only on Laserdisc and VHS. The Laserdisc is in the correct AR, the VHS is P&S and HiFi Stereo only so probably not worth hunting down.
The LD is reportedly superb on the audio front. I'm guessing because it was a CDS reference title on its theatrical release and hopefully that is what we will find on the Laserdisc. Supposedly its a good film too so I'm looking forward to watching it.
I'm hoping to collect all of the films that used CDS. There isn't many and the ones I do have so far are all superb. Dick Tracy on DVD is an absolute audio treat. Terminator 2 is good too, the Artisan R1 DVD, but I think Dick Tracy beats it. The Doors is another I have but haven't received yet.
Not too many more to get. :) |
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Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 10:01
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That's the fun thing about obsolete media, digging up all the curios!  |
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Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 14:21
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OK, I give up. Is this really a format or a gag based on a really hard to Google name?
https://www.in70mm.com/news/2012/cds/images/cds002.jpg
Oh certainly not a joke, it's the real deal. It was a sound system from Kodak that made it's debut in 1990 with Dick Tracy. Only a handful of films used CDS. I think the problem was reliability. Steven Speilberg apparently attended a test screening of a film (not sure what film, it might have been Dick Tracy I'm not sure) to see if he could be persuaded to use CDS (not to be confused with Sony's DSC system) for his 1991 film Hook. The test screening equipment broke down and he walked out and said he wasn't going to use it.
https://www.in70mm.com/news/2012/cds/images/cds004.jpg
It's essentially 5.1 (at least that's as far as it got, or something like that, it was never fully maxed out I don't think) but lossless and (for 1990) the highest bitrate of it's era by some margin. Anything made for CDS was apparently sonically excellent. Which is why Final Approach, an obscure 1991 film with a very limited US theatrical release) received so many plaudits for it's incredible audio. I'm hoping it made it's way to the Laserdisc release because it's not available elsewhere except for VHS but I have no idea what that release would be like from an audio perspective. Video-wise it's P&S, with the Laserdisc being OAR so again it's the release of choice. There simply isn't anything better out there (perhaps a 35mm or 70mm print and a working CDS system I guess) other than DVD-R bootlegs.
Full specsheet is here (from In70mm):
https://www.in70mm.com/news/2012/cds/images/cds001.jpg
As you can see, it was leagues ahead of anything else at the time. Just a shame it didn't catch on. The full list of CDS films is as follows:
Title Released Notes
Sounds Like The Real World ??.??.???? Released in 35mm and 70mm CDS
Dick Tracy 15.06.1990 Released in 70mm CDS and 70mm magnetic
Days of Thunder 27.06.1990 35mm anamorphic and released in 70mm CDS and 70mm magnetic
Flatliners 10.08.1990 Released in 35mm in Europe
Edward Scissorhands 07.12.1990 Released in 35mm CDS, 70mm CDS and 70mm magnetic
The Doors 01.03.1991 Released in 35mm CDS and 70mm magnetic
Hudson Hawk 24.05.1991 Released in 35mm CDS
Terminator 2: Judgement Day 03.07.1991 Super 35 released in 35mm CDS, 70mm CDS and 70mm magnetic
For The Boys 22.11.1991 35mm wide screen
Final Approach ??.11.1991 35mm anamorphic and released in 35mm CDS
Universal Soldier 03.07.1992 Shown in CDS in Kinepolis, Bruxelles, Belgium Released in 35mm CDS
The ones I know of at the moment are:
Dick Tracy - All DVD releases (the US/CA R1 has a bonus DTS track but the 5.1 on all releases is excellent), possibly the Blu Ray but I cannot confirm it. I did try the Apple TV version and it sounds a lot narrower, nowhere near the clarity of the DVD version.
Final Approach - The USA Laserdisc supposedly has it/uses it. I'll find out soon enough. The VHS I don't know, it's HiFi though.
Terminator 2: Judgement Day - The only release that has this is the R1 first run DVD from Artisan. Not sure about LD, far as I know no LD's have it. I have this DVD. It sounds phenomenal (but Dick Tracy is better imho).
The Doors - The special edition USA Laserdiscs have it apparently. The 15th Anniversary R1 DVD from Lionsgate has it. Everything else after it has been remixed/fiddled with.
For The Boys - Laserdisc might have it? Not sure. The DVD releases have it. Possibly the Blu Ray.
Universal Soldier - The new 4K and Blu Ray remasters from Studio Canal allegedly have it. It's a give away due to an audio wobble in the opening company logo credits apparently. Anything before that I have no idea.
Edward Scissorhands - Supposedly the DVD has it as it's a 4.0 track. I cannot confirm this though. The Blu Ray is the same it seems.
Hudson Hawk - The Blu Ray from Signal One is 4.0 and has it. Anything before that I don't know.
Flatliners - I don't know yet.
Days of Thunder - I don't know yet.
Proof:
Edward Scissorhands end credits:
https://i.postimg.cc/B6WxK07G/Edward-Scissorhands-1990-MPAA.png
For The Boys end credits:
https://i.postimg.cc/Px4P5sBy/For-the-Boys-1991-Dolby.png
Final Approach end credits:
https://i.postimg.cc/Kv4RxWQ7/86-E3-E3-E4-4-ADA-4-A38-AF65-FF77-AF5-D0784.png
Terminator 2 end credits:
https://i.postimg.cc/85Brfrrh/Terminator-2-Judgement-Day-1991-MPAA.png
https://i.postimg.cc/tC04GgZb/70mm6trackblackcds.jpg
More information on Terminator 2 engagements here:
https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/history-legacy--showmanship/remembering-terminator2-judgment-day-25th/Page-2 |
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