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Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 05:23 

Most likely need a new loading belt to fix your issue.

See my post below that shows how to replace the belt.

https://forum.lddb.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=5774&start=20


You’ll need to order a Pioneer belt under reference number PEB-1013. Here is one available on eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PIONEER-PEB1013-PEB1127-GEM4-3-SQUARE-BELT-/121431335182

https://miro.medium.com/max/620/1*ItxyggIvqz2ISruD84Ieow.png

Thanks so much though, you've been a massive help. I'll let you know how repairs go!

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Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 05:18 

Small update, but I've confirmed with someone who used to use these back in the 90's, and the "test" screen does confirm that they are blank. I feel like I'm getting a bit deeper into this rabbit hole than I had originally planned.

Here's a transcription of the conversation we had, and some more information.


Hey, haven't seen one of these in a while. Here's what I know!

In the 1990's, my father ran a video production business that specialized in weddings and trials, most of which wanted VHS copies of their stuff. A few did want Laserdisc, so he'd farm that out to this same company, "Laser Disc Recording Center" in Cambridge Massachusetts. The discs were all made by the "Optical Disc Corporation" out of Santa Fe Springs California. I was a kid at the time, but I'd estimate 100 or so of these discs passed through there. Both businesses folded sometime after the new millennium- my father's last filled recordable laser disc order was in 2003. If there had been a "prosumer" Laser Disc recorder available, I'm sure my father would have bought it, so I rather doubt there were any out there. He did say/brag that 'they' (the people who recorded the laserdiscs) were using the same system he was for S/VHS, the Amiga 4000T with NewTek's video toaster 4000- which was one of the top-of-the-line ways to handle analog video back in the day, so I wouldn't doubt it. The equipment these guys were using is still out there, somewhere, and it would be a great boost to the Laserdisc community/fandom if there were some way to get our hands on them as a service again. But short of getting the specialized equipment, or a time machine back to the 1990's, I don't know if there is a way to take those rare disks and make them into the most valuable treasure on earth. The Star Wars Holiday Special on Laserdisc... that would be beyond incredible.

Interestingly, some of the "single" sided disks have a silver "dimpled" pattern on the "blank" side. This leads me to believe that whatever media they're using to record on (the ruby stuff) is the most expensive component of making these recordable disks. I've no proof of that, but I can't think of why they'd leave a side basically blank like this.

Pictures:
Case: https://i.gyazo.com/82d28cf8ac224df153dcff93a7cbe89a.jpg
Disk (side A): https://i.gyazo.com/20878f5e8e85b3ae4c52a71c023750ac.jpg
Disk (side B): https://i.gyazo.com/02a4ec05c070beb461afebe42fe62855.jpg

I'll keep my eyes open, and do some sleuthing. If I ever can get my hands on the means to record one of these things, you'll be the first to know.



I followed up by asking if he knew how to tell if the discs were blank, or of they could have multiple writes.


I'm not really sure about rewriting them- the process by which these were made suggests that there might have been a way to erase a disk to then write a fresh analog signal, but I have no idea what sort of equipment you might need to achieve that, or what the results might be. Again, I'm not entirely sure on that one.

As for "are they actually blank" I took your pictures and showed them to my father. He said that that's the "blank" signal from ODC to verify the disk is good, and ready to be recorded to. You, my lucky friend, likely have some of the last blank RLV disks out there!

A bit more info he provided; the service Laser Disc Recording Center provided (he called it 'mastering' but I'm not sure that that's the right term) cost about $100 per disk, going all the way back to the mid 1990's. He said the only people that wanted Laserdiscs made were attorneys and insurance companies involved in big-ticket lawsuits he was hired to film depositions for, and they gladly paid the fees for them. He said he averaged about 10 disks a year until DVD came around.

The hunt for a machine that'll make RLV's continues. Again, if I find anything, you'll be the first to know!

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 Post subject: Re: Laserdisc Time Line
Posted: 19 Oct 2019, 11:42 

You're missing the release of Howard the Duck on Laserdisc, which was the start and end of the Golden Age of Cinema.

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Posted: 07 Jan 2020, 06:54 

Just curious about the player seem at the 1:00 mark, with the flip out jog wheel and controls, I haven't seen that feature on any of the players I own/have seen in person. They also mention at the 4:00 mark that a different player they have can play "8inch and 12inch laserdiscs" were there different sized laserdiscs? As far as I know they were all a standard size.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCZQuD4JJnw

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Posted: 12 Jan 2020, 08:49 

Finally got around to watching the "What we do in the Shadows" TV series, very enjoyable, and I gotta say the characters might be better than the ones in the original movie (who all make a cameo in episode 7 of the series).

Excited for season 2.

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Posted: 14 Jan 2020, 08:58 

jakeheke wrote:
Appears to be only a handful then, cheers team


I picked up a copy of Schindler's List because of this thread, I think you owe me about $12.50 :lol:

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Posted: 18 Jan 2020, 13:14 

Australia needs to go nuclear but dumb hippies stuck in the '70s will never let it.
The whole country is already on fire anyways, what's a little nuclear radiation going to do. :lol:

I actually live pretty close to a nuclear power plant, and I'm never concerned about it going off. It's a clean and efficient form of power that is demonized by the media.

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Posted: 23 Jan 2020, 06:50 

I prefer to use professional hardware and software with it. For example black magic capture card.
I tried capturing using my Elgato capture card I got a number of years ago, but I found this $10 device to have less stutter and I can run S-Video on it.

I'm hoping to have a much better recording later today using the new software, hopefully the audio issues are fixed. I'm not super interested in restoration of the video, I just want it up somewhere public so it exists somewhere other than my living-room.

Work in progress right now, I got everything rigged up.
https://i.imgur.com/O1T8NhH.jpg

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Posted: 23 Jan 2020, 17:06 

Got this thing in a lot off of eBay not long ago, and decided to digitize and upload the thing since I thought it was neat. The disk came in a 3M sleeve, and one side was just white plastic, the whole thing played pretty well for how scuffed up it was though.

If anyone has any more information or possible pictures of the Kiosk, it would be appreciated.

Audio starts at the 1:55 mark, but I enjoy the flight shots leading up to it :lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2yU6zEJKws

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Posted: 23 Jan 2020, 18:04 

makmak16 wrote:
So you're the one who outbid me. Well I got to watch one of them anyway, so no real loss.

I'll have the other two up here in the coming days, no worries!

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Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 01:47 

Oh my word, I love Bob and Ray. If this has exclusive Bob and Ray stuff on it I’d love to see it.
It is exclusive, so what is the USB device that I would get to transfer this cheaply???
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01E5ITE2W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_s5JkEb6260Y0W

Ignore the software it comes with, and use OBS.

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Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 14:28 

Uploaded a second one of these mystery discs, this time there's a bit more rot so the audio isn't the best, but it gets better as the video goes forward.

This one also came in a 3M sleeve as well.

Moving on, I will be getting the Ford Dealership discs up, but those are all pushing 30 minutes each so they'll take a bit longer, and I'll just keep them all in a single thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1OGmHcf9o0

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Posted: 31 Jan 2020, 12:32 

Man how did every other Kevin Smith film of the 90's end up on LD but Dogma. I'd love to own that on LD.

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 Post subject: Re: Greetings from Vermont!
Posted: 27 Feb 2020, 17:08 

I'm in St. Albans town

Hey I know you're not going to believe this, but I live in Saint Albans as well, right by the police station! Forget about within an hours drive, we likely like 5 minutes away from each other :lol:

Small freaking world! I got about 300 or so LD's, despite what my profile on here says (I'm a bit lazy about adding things).

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 Post subject: Re: Greetings from Vermont!
Posted: 28 Feb 2020, 12:55 

rick_dangerous wrote:

So how does one do this? You look up a disc on the main site and then click "Add to my collection?"

Is there a faster way? haha

Here's the bulk upload page https://www.lddb.com/bulk.php I've never used it, but I'm sure it's easier than searching every title you'd like to add.

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Posted: 29 Feb 2020, 08:16 

If you can't find someone who has it, there's a few sealed copies here on the site for ~$20.

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Posted: 29 Feb 2020, 17:22 

forper wrote:
laserdisc fans have big swingin discs


Those poor, poor, UMD fans on the other hand... :lol:

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Posted: 04 Mar 2020, 12:37 

Watched The Rock the other night. The movie, not Dwayne Johnson.

"What kinda f***ed up tour is this?!" That line gets me every time.

The DTS track on laser packs a good punch.

I have 5 copies of The Rock, all from the same lot. Some absolute unit of a man really loved that movie; I for one think it's the best Michael Bay film (which isn't saying that much).

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Posted: 04 Mar 2020, 12:39 

Much like my sense of humor, I like my electronics Wooden.

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Posted: 07 Mar 2020, 08:37 

Grabbed a new switch game, Murder by Numbers.

Had this nice bit of dialogue when I showed a suspect a VHS.

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Posted: 23 Apr 2020, 10:02 

Recently been trying to digatize my Ford Dealership discs, but most of them are so rotted out that they don't even function. I managed to capture maybe half of my collection, but most of them seem to die with about 3 minutes or so left on the disc.

Anywho, I figured everyone here would get a kick out of the worst Disk Rot I've ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYNVZIWICf0

I'll have the few ford discs I was able to capture up on youtube in the coming days hopefully.

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Posted: 24 Apr 2020, 07:49 

Finally got to digitizing my Ford Laserdiscs to mixed results as the majority of them were rotted like crazy. I managed to get about 4 of them recorded, but even those tended to not play all the way through without hitting the jogwheel a few times to skip past the damage.

-1983 Ford Ranger
-1983 Car and Light Truck Technical Highlights
-1983 Ford Ranger (Español)
-1981 M.C.U System
-1981 Cylinder Head Service (Side 1)
-1981 Cylinder Head Service (Side 2)
-1982 Vehicle Emission Controls
-1988 1/2 Ford Escort
-1983 The Selling Process
-1984 Overhauling Diesel Engines
-1989 Probe
-1988 Electronic Fuel Injection (Side 1)
-1988 Electronic Fuel Injection (Side 2)
-1984 The People Factor
-1980 Prospecting For Sales Success
-1982 Manual 5-Speed Transaxle (Side 1)
-1982 Manual 5-Speed Transaxle (Side 2)
-1986 Driveability Diagnosis - Intermittent Faults
To not spam the site, I'll just comment the future ones on this thread.

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Posted: 26 Apr 2020, 10:12 

1983 Ford Car and Light Truck Technical Highlights



Bad Audio Rot on this one, and the last few minutes were cut for rot. Still some funny moments, mainly the start of the video with the "Dunk your sales manager" thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-1090
Posted: 29 Apr 2020, 16:35 

If its working its one of the best players ever made 8-)

Sorry I just feel that way about working players now, there have been a lot of broken questions here recently.

Maybe a lower quality player for the age but if you have all the scalers etc you will or should get a nice image.

I'm just excited to upgrade from my Denon player I've had since I started collecting.

It should be here in a couple weeks, but hopefully it works. At the very least I can use it as a travel model.
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