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Posted: 20 Aug 2019, 18:06
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The motor in that deck is worth more than the rest of it. There are tons of otherwise fine 704/703/99s with wasted spindle motors. Do NOT throw the spindle motor out! Even if you never get another one of these decks you can still trade the motor for $100 worth of discs probably if the bearing is good.
Most LD players break form a lack of use. My guess is someone let this thing sit for 20 years and then fired it up just before you bought it and all that stuff happened because the lube was all frozen. |
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Posted: 20 Aug 2019, 22:05
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Wow I think I need to do a video of what is collectible and what people should be buying.
If you want a rare set then you need to pickup the Astroboy box set I have for sale in my shop, its harder to find that many other LD titles
and the series hasn't been released on DVD or Bluray as of yet in Japanese language or complete as the LD is.
I’ve been interested in that same set you’ve had for sale for YEARS. If it’s so worth what you are asking then why won’t anyone buy it?
Also, the set is, IIRC, no longer considered “complete” if for no other reason than at least one episode exists only in the NBC version. The Snow Lion, I think it’s called. They put it on the back side of the US ver of Legend of the Forest. It’s still one of the greatest LD sets ever made. |
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Posted: 20 Aug 2019, 22:13
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You know what would really suck? A museum with only valuable paintings in it. No curator on Earth would even consider it because value is irrelevant in the academic world.
Instead of a room of classical sculpture, a room for Egypt, a room for Mesopotamia, etc it’s all organized by dollar value and how much taxable wealth you can hide in it and an entire wing devoted to SAMO. If it’s not worth at least $20M it doesn’t get shown. They keep in in the basement until the value goes up. |
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Posted: 22 Aug 2019, 03:20
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Maybe, but maybe not. Some people have plenty of money and just don’t want to pay taxes on it so they may buy crazy junk like $1000 LDs of terrible movies you can buy on BR for $5.
If the the Man comes in and sees a shelf filled with terrible movies like The Sixth Day they would never imagine the guy could ebay that thing off for $300 in hurry if he needed to. Everyone knows what gold is...and they want it. Nobody on earth wants The Sixth Day. |
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Posted: 22 Aug 2019, 20:24
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In some countries selling stuff off on ebay can attract the attention of the relevant taxation authority, ebay can share data if required. Doesn't matter if it's a Van Gogh, 6th Day LD or a used dildo...if you sell enough stuff without including it as part of your taxable income you can trigger unwanted attention.
Obviously you can sell stuff through other means without any worries though.
Yeah, this is a tactic that has made its way down into LD and Neo Geo but originated in art. One of the reasons there is so much fake art on the market (some estimate as much as %50 of the European trade) is because people are hiding their wealth in it so they don’t want to ever authenticate anything fearing losses.
One wouldn’t use eBay to buy a bronze head or a Van Gogh. You barely even need to do much at all. You’ll probably be storing it in the same facility as the guy you’re buying it from so it just has to be moved down the hall and a large deposit has to be made at some bank, you can easily keep it all Swiss. There is enough tax free Nazi gold and bootleg paintings in the Geneva Freeport to pave my street. |
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Posted: 28 Aug 2019, 23:24
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| Yep, you’re missing analog sound which is essential for many LDs. |
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Posted: 01 Sep 2019, 16:54
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You will never record onto these. In the years I’ve been a member of this forum (only like six I think, others have been here much longer) this same subject has come up at least three times and nobody has ever recorded anything yet and gotten back to us. Some have shown a great deal of determination but once they realize it’s virtually impossible to find a running machine they give up. These are not consumer products. You will not be able simply to eBay one of these players and have it sent via priority mail to your house where you can just plug two things in and get going. If any of these recorders exist at all they will need to be freight delivered and then because I’m sure it’s broke you need a guy who can fix a $100,000 player that Pioneer didn’t build. (IIRC).
For one thing this stuff is all pre-internet so you need to find people via email, using old books and magazines to answer your questions and that alone is more than most people are capable of.
If you have the means, I would just hire a private detective to find a still living tech that worked for the company. After he convinces you that it’s impossible or you manage to record something on the disc (Star Was, of course) please get back with us.
If they really do have a test pattern all the way through then honestly that’s kinda worth something, at least to me. It would be more convenient than setting it up to repeat the short ones on most discs, I guess. If this means “blank” (not a safe assumption unless you have specific info) then I guess they really are rewritable. Either that or they are just test pattern discs. |
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Posted: 06 Sep 2019, 00:46
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| We are a pretty f***ed up forum, aren’t we? |
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Posted: 07 Sep 2019, 02:33
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| The main difference being that the player doesn’t generate CCs or even see that they are there so you’ll never find any settings for them. It’s always your TV or a box that generates them. |
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Posted: 13 Sep 2019, 20:46
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PVMs aren’t the best displays for LD. That’s just gamer group think bleeding into home theater. Many consumer sets will dump all over PVMs in LD playback at 1/10 the price.
The reason being:
PVMs are for directors and technicians to work with. They do very little to the signal so that they can see any abnormalities. They don’t have great comb filters or any home theater related features at all. This works for classic games because you get the purest version of the picture possible.
When viewing LD or NTSC at all really one generally wants the image enhanced by the display. I’m not talking about motion smoothing or anything, nothing so gross. You want the scanlines reduced to as thin as possible. You want state of the art 3D comb filters to avoid motion artifacts, you want anti-bloom circuitry to stabilize the image, you want help with color.
The PVM will look fine, no issue. I watched Clifford on mine a while back. It’s just that those 27” Trinitrons on Craigslist for $20 will make LD look even better, also bigger, and then you can save hours on your PVM.
EDIT: I forgot to say, s-video will probably give the best results. |
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Posted: 14 Sep 2019, 18:07
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He thinks he’s cool. That’s what’s amazing. He found something for nothing and is flipping it for INSANE markup and he doesn’t see why that outs him a jerk.
If your parents didn’t explain it to you then it’s too late. Obviously, you’re trying to defend yourself so that part of your brain never developed properly. If you really don’t see how charging a 20x markup on a recently acquired item you can barely identify grosses people out then we can’t explain it do you here.
If you want to blend in with decent society more easily I’d suggest keeping your finances more private. Nobody here wants to know how bad you’re ripping people off other people in the same scene. If you were ever part of any scene you’d know that already too.
You'd hate me if I told you how little I paid for these.
Hate isn’t the right word but I find this quote of yours very revealing of your unrepentant greed. You already assumed we’d hate for for not paying enough for something but you’re surprised that we think your a jerk for selling it for too much?
It’s pretty simple. If you did nothing you deserve nothing. If you had to crawl into a sewer to get these and then eat your way out again then $300 would be fair. Buying something, marking it up massively the next day is not doing something. You are not a bond trader. These are LDs and you’re not even an expert on that. You don’t deserve the money. That’s pretty much the irritant. You’re trying get something for nothing FROM US. Get it? Still don’t get it? Maybe you have an older smarter sister you can ask about this...? Do you go to church or anything? You must know somebody moral. Everyone does.
Anyway, next time do the research yourself or just be honest. “Hi, I created a account here just to make money off of it but I’m not using the LDDB shop because I need the larger audience of idiots on Facebook to get mad money. What do you think I can bilk these rubes for? Maybe $300?” |
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Posted: 14 Sep 2019, 20:21
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You have to run it. LD players are giant fans and running them hugely helps with this exact problem. I know since when I got my LD-W1 it smelled like a 1978 Trans Am.
It doesn’t sound like you’ll be able to live with the smell that long so please sell the smelly thing to me since I can handle it and I’d love to have another 99. |
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Posted: 19 Sep 2019, 23:22
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| The only way I can see being impressed with a bunch of LDs on a shelf is if you’ve never been to a museum of any quality whatsoever. It’s just mass media; even the “rare” stuff was made by the thousands and very very little of it is MUSE-only so it’s mostly just dirt common stuff in a weird uncommon format. Furthermore, all this guy did was buy stuff. I’m not polishing his knob for that and that seems to be what he wants since he contributes nothing but photos. |
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Posted: 21 Sep 2019, 02:10
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The thread you linked is the best thing there is. It’s pretty massive and it’s a living document so read the whole thing.
As Rein-O has said, it helps if you have some kind of interest in video recordings. Music, for example, there are many many exclusive music titles on LD but most people don’t care about Clan of Xymox videos or late period Chet Baker. There are also quite a few documentaries about racing and race cars that are LD only forever. Anime is another specialty area with loads of LD only stuff.
It’s very hard to think of some basic super low hanging fruit like a full length live action Hollywood movie that is LD only because that wouldn’t have been a good business decision. Anything with a main market outside of Japan would also have seen a VHS release. During the DVD boom we saw the release of almost anything that wasn’t in rights Hell, including many things that skipped the analog era.
It would be easier if you said you wanted to find a title where the LD version was still the best version, that is to say movies where the only releases are Beta, VHS, VHD, CED, and LD in which case a well captured LD version would be more valuable to the world than the other formats. I think there’s a David Lynch movie like that...another thing would be to get better versions of something because of the content, like THX1138 since that got all f-ed up on DVD. |
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Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 19:23
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Good news! I was hoping I was wrong when I wrote that.
In reality 99s have crappy spindles and those dying will cause us to eventually have way more spare doors than there will be working 99s. |
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Posted: 25 Sep 2019, 02:27
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One of the things that really screws with a low end LCD is stuff like LD crosstalk. It sees it on the signal and so tries to render it but a CRT will basically just ignore it.
What you’re experiencing is something I’ve tried to explain to a million people over the Internet. It’s very hard to communicate that before people try spend money on fixing problems introduced by 21st century stuff, maybe first try matching the display to the tech it was designed to run on it. Almost ANY CRT will be better than a cheap LCD for SD viewing. Before buying a $1000 Bravia try a $20 Trinitron.
To experience an even more massive version of this effect trying watching a really nice black and white movie on your new CRT. |
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Posted: 25 Sep 2019, 18:01
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Noobs who buy things for a crazy price the second they see it might want to know that that item wasn’t listed five minutes ago but actually five years before they even knew it existed. That’s the point of it.
I love how many sellers and single posters don’t want it. I’d assume anyone who is a smart buyer would feel exactly the opposite. |
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Posted: 25 Sep 2019, 18:07
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drorabaugh wrote: If this feature is implemented, I hope display is optional. As a seller, I don't see the point.
Does being a seller actually make you unable to see the point or do you very much see the point and realize it works against you? |
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Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 01:03
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So I go into the pawn shop and I see that Roland 808 there and it’s $1800 and I just decide this time I’m going to get it.
I say, hey, I’ll give you $700 for it. And he’s like, it’s a CLASSIC. It’s worth twice what I’m asking! So I say, if it’s worth so much then why has it been there every time I come in this store for the last seven years? You clearly can’t move it in a reasonable amount of time so it’s either window dressing to keep the shop looking good or you really want to sell it and you’re just hoping to cash in on the right idiot on the right day. It ain’t happening, sell it to me. End of story, I paid $900 and a dumpster full of alarm clocks. I got to keep the dumpster. .
This story is a fabrication but to anyone who “can’t see why” they’d want the info it is the perfect parable. Knowing how long he’s been sitting on something unable to get his gouging price is one of the most powerful bargaining tools there is. That’s why ebay has had it since they only auctioned stamps.
Sellers who want $1800 for a copy of Sixth Day they found in a crap bin at Hard Off! 16 years ago won’t want you have this tool. I’m a little surprised that some are so transparent or disingenuous about it. I’m not super concerned about it really but some people are and they’re kind outing themselves because there’s no honorable reason I can think of to be against. “To much info”? It’s the Laserdisc DATABASE for friggn crassness hazzen sassen. There’s usually only a single sentence description for an individual LD. “NM+ w/ obi” isn’t exactly a tidal wave of data. |
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Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 03:14
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I’m not in that market or that income bracket, high end auctions. Nobody who buys $28M Ferraris or (probably) fake waterlilies hangs out on web forums either so that wish is a bit unlikely to come true.
None of that matters at the moment as the conversation is about obfuscation of info commonly available when buying all sorts of things from all sorts of places. The conversation seems to have quickly become a sellers vs the world situation which I wouldn’t have expected. I expected crickets if anything.
So why all the action? If you’re not deliberately manipulating the market through false scarcity then how else can that info hurt you or any seller? It’s nice that you have so many wonderful facts about yourself to relay to us but we aren’t talking about your feedback or how you pack things.
The fact that the LD world is small is irrelevant. Gouging is gouging. If it takes tricks to make people believe high prices makes sense...maybe they don’t make sense.
“Why can’t all the people (I’m profiting from) just get along?” This is what I mean about honesty and actually saying what you mean and “honorable” behavior. I don’t know what you charge for stuff or what the markup is because I don’t buy that stuff but it must be huge for you (all the transparent sellers who showed up for this thread) or you wouldn’t be here crapping on it. It’s clearly not nothing. It’s clearly a more important topic than I thought because it got the sellers out to campaign against it.
I suspect it won’t be implemented to calm down the huckersters. It’s not going to make or break the place. I’ll never think of some of these shops the same way again though. You guys really don’t understand how to argue your cause for beans. |
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Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 20:36
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No, it serves no significance. Quite frankly, it will raise additional issues for sellers, like more questions from anal retentive buyers. If they see a laserdisc in a store for years, it will give the buyer more incentive to contact the seller and lower the price and such.
I truly believe that an optional "make offer" button is more ideal.
UJ
Beyond parody, beyond cliche. |
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Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 01:26
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There is nothing machiavellian about my choice to wish an opt out option for the proposed changes to listings.
If a title has been listed for over a decade or only a few weeks, what's the difference to anyone ?
Again, pretending to not understand something. I’ve already explained it very well, I think. I don’t believe you don’t understand it. Should I? I chose to believe your are an unrepentant capitalist rather than a complete idiot. Don’t be insulted, those are the choices you gave me. But because you are repeating this lie that you don’t get what good the info is...I don’t trust you.
You DO know what good it is, that’s why you’re here complaining about it. Right? Am I wrong about that? You or another seller repeatedly saying you don’t get what good the info is while campaigning against it is hurting your cause. When you do it again with your next post you will hurt it even more.
If you’re sitting on a $1000 disc for five years then we can see what you see, that it’s only worth $1000 to some person who hasn’t yet seen it. Everyone who’s in the actual LD market is passing it by. We wait for you to lower the price. Amazingly some sellers do this already, since lowering the price of stuff that won’t move is retail 101. You can’t buy a new 1997 Escort from the Ford lot today. They lower the price instead of raising it. Your car lot would have a 1983 LeCar on it for $345,000 and you “wouldn’t see why” people were torn between thinking it was a joke or a scam.
If you sit on something with an insane price refusing to sell it for anything less then YOU are the one who need to learn about “letting the market play out”. If you have the only copies in the world and you won’t sell it then YOU ARE GUILTY OF PRICE FIXING. Not guilty in any court but guilty in reality. You control the price. You’ve frozen it at what you want it to be. You and LD_fan or whatever his name is with all the music videos.
All that stuff about people buying “you”. They buy your hype, clearly, but you’re just shipping around other people’s art, adding a firehouse tax of unknown magnitude. It’s not like you’re hand assembling custom brassieres or something.
I feel like a friggn idiot for typing all this since I don’t buy expensive LDs. I don’t even know what they are because I don’t care whatsoever for hype for value. The whole scene deeply offends me. But I’m sort of on the side of the sellers. I honestly hope admin turns it off because we need these carnie crab in a bucket sellers more than we need another bargain and it only hurts the dim bulbs that get hoodwinked into paying big money for crap. The thing is, I just can’t let the kind of BS I’m seeing in this thread go unchallenged. It’s so obvious and so smelly.
A while back the head of the Amway tried to win the Michigan governorship. Dick Devos. His horrible wife Betsy is now Secretary of Education. One of the things he actually campaigned on was repealing the “truth in pricing law” which basically said that everything in Michigan has to be priced and sell for the price that’s on it. He lost! And why not? It doesn’t take a Richard Feynman so see that he’s a) head of a legal pyramid scheme and b) price tags protect customers. He was as transparent as glass and so are the sellers in this thread. You guys really screwed yourselves, IMO. You should have left your post counts at zero. |
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Posted: 28 Sep 2019, 16:22
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| My grandpa was my favorite person in the history of the world. He didn’t care about a lot of the stuff I did but then I didn’t survive the Depression as a child in Chicago by looking for money on the ground. I didn’t get drafted and shipped to New Guinea, I didn’t get malaria. My first son lived. Old people don’t care about a lot of stuff because it takes until you’re old to figure out what your priorities really are, if you ever do. |
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Posted: 04 Oct 2019, 22:53
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Yeah it was a gateway anime for many. I was never a huge fan. As fighting shonen go I enjoyed Yu Yu Hakusho a lot more. I'd rate Rave Master higher as well.
Rurouni Kenshin is one of the bigger gateway anime that one I liked and two I got into it when it was fresh in the US. Cowboy Bebop is amazing and in this weird spot where it is probably both simultaneously underrated and overrated at the same time but I did not watch that when it aired on CN. Trigun sucked.
I was 12 or 13 when I discovered Dragon Ball, Kinikuman, and Fist of the North Star. This was all around 85/86, I had a friend who’s family traveled between Japan and the US a lot so he always had the latest manga and occasionally even a cel or a drawing from a show. I loved Dragon Ball and still do for art, the humor, the world it takes place in. (I got out at Freezer, by the time that happened we had tape trading down to less than a week delay from broadcast. By then US fandom was pretty large, the cons drawing 5000 people probably.)
Then a decade later it finally hit the US and it was everywhere. Fist and Kinnikuman never took off here. The most popular DB stuff seems to be crap like Brawly which was honestly just Jump treading water to keep making money. The best stuff is from the beginning right up to where Goku does the kamehameha from heaven with Gohan. That was sooooooooooo cool. We didn’t have Steve Universe and all that well informed s**t like that back then so honestly I was totally blown away by it. On US TV the good guys never died or cried or pooped or anything. They just won all day. It was a paradigm shift. Anything could happen in Dragon Ball. In American cartoons (actually animated in Japan largely) the characters only wear one set of the clothes, whatever the toy wore. Even Quick Kick and Roadblock at the North Pole on a movie budget.
All three of these series typify the Jump comics spirit of teamwork, making allies of your enemies, etc, but in different ways. Dragon Ball was the only one drawn properly from day one though. These days I’m more into Kinniuman than any of them.
Btw, “Tournament” is officially a genre of anime according to Netflix, these shows are largely responsible.
Epilogue: the same time I discovered these shows I saw Transformers: The Movie in the theater and Nausicaa on video as well as Dagger of Kamui, Ralph Bakshi, and I was already way into Macross. It was a pretty intense time. |
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Posted: 05 Oct 2019, 05:11
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| I had a guy offer me something and before I could respond he bought it at full price. I’m not a professional seller so I guess I wasn’t fast enough to satisfy people super impatient about getting stuff TODAY that’s been sitting on eBay for 20 years. |
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