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Posted: 05 Oct 2017, 18:59 

Hi elahrairrah - I've had one dealing with this seller.

Some months ago he listed a rare laserdisc for sale.
I proceeded to purchase it and then he refused to ship it to the UK with the following reply:

Thank you for looking at my site and considering purchase of this rare laserdisc. unfortunately, i had not wished to ship this overseas (outside the U.S.), as it is very expensive, in excellent condition and i am afraid it could suffer damage during shipping. if you were to receive it damaged in any way, you would most likely return, and i would be left refunding cost + shipping both ways. i do not think i want to take the risk.
in addition, just to ship to you i would need to use usps priority at a minimum, which is approximately $60 USD. this seems like a high cost.
if you agree with me, we should probably cancel this transaction.
if you have anyone in the US that i could ship to, who would assume risk of travel and forward to you, i would be willing to do that.



Whilst I was agreeable to paying priority mail I was definitely not agreeable to shipping it to a third party in the US as that would mean I had no comeback if he never shipped it all since I am only covered for the address associated with my paypal account.

So we agreed to cancel the transaction. Definitely someone I would NOT purchase from again.
I got the impression he didn't know how to pack LDs properly so I wasn't prepared to take the risk.

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Posted: 23 Feb 2018, 20:14 

This is an interesting thread for me. I've got a laserdisc collection that easily justifies the spend since I own 10,000 laserdiscs -so probably the largest collection in the world at the moment. I also own an HLD-X9 LD player so that isn't an issue in terms of having a decent source player to play these laserdiscs on. So why am I still sitting on the fence undecided?

Well the Lumagen Radiance 2144 is just another piece of electronic hardware and hardware can fail. I don't doubt Lumagen as a company would do everything they possibly could to try and keep me happy if it did fail, but can they really repair this device in 10 or especially 15 years time if they don't even make them now?

Also would they even have anything remotely comparable to offer in its place if they couldn't repair it? I doubt it given they appear to have abandoned all development of video processors for analogue sources or if they haven't soon will.

A lot of you guys have small analogue collections if truth be told. I've also seen more people come and go on this forum than snow off a ditch over the last 10 years. One minute some guy can't wait to buy all the MUSE titles ever released, the next he's selling the lot. So my point is this do I go on the advice of someone like that who switches technology more often than I change my TV channels or do I trust my own gut instinct.

I'm in it for the long haul. There's no turning back when you've as many discs as I have! It isn't about the quantity though, its about the fact I love music on laserdisc so again my emphasis is primarily the sound with the bonus of having some video to watch - not the other way around. I'm also very happy with the picture quality I get at the moment even from some of my more basic LD players and I'm not using any fancy video processors at all, just built-in scaling in the DVD player and AV Receiver. I also only use 2 speakers since that's pretty much all you need if you want to listen to music.

So you see my dilemma.

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Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 00:37 

Haven't had the chance to test the discs yet.
But will do tomorrow.

It seems to be some kind of chemical reaction with the plastic coating of the disc.
It must have come in contact with some sort of material that caused the plastic coating of the disc to react like this.

We'll see how it plays tomorrow

Laserdiscs are tricky to photograph as they are so reflective but if its only on the surface Novus 1 Polish should be able to clean that mist off and it will be as good as new. I've found a layer of mist forms on LDs if they have been left in polylined bags for many years without being taken out. You often seen this on sealed stock that is decades old. Most likely some form of gas given off by the plastic which results in a buildup of particles on the surface of the disc. Also happened with some EMI Swindon CDs from the 90's and they could be polished as well and were fine.

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Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 21:41 

I can think of thousands of reasons why Laserdisc is the best format ever!

Here's just 10:

The Blue Nile - Downtown Lights
Siouxsie & The Banshees - Red Light
Roachford - Kathleen
Berlin - Like Flames
Survivor - I Can't Hold Back
Bad English - Forget Me Not
Beastie Boys - She's On It
Bass-O-Matic - Fascinating Rhythm
K-Klass - Rhythm is a Mystery
Duran Duran - Breath After Breath

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Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 12:54 


Any more of a background story? Really can't see those two being missed on YJP and going that cheap!

A few people on Facebook were very sceptical when the guy posted the initial details for those 2 selling for 200 yen each in Japan. I've bought loads of stuff from him over the years so I certainly believed him as he would have no reason to lie. He was just miffed he had missed buying them himself! The reason no one outside Japan noticed them was because they weren't listed on Yahoo. It was apparently some other online site within Japan. He didn't reveal the identity and I don't blame him. The seller who acquired them was from Japan so it all makes sense as he would have been able to see them without much competition. He certainly bagged a massive profit when he then resold them a few weeks later. The seller doesn't collect LDs and doesn't even own a LD player but they know that those late releases are very sought after internationally so they try to locate them to sell outside of Japan.

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Posted: 28 Mar 2018, 13:17 

My first experience of this happening was actually with Dadons a few years ago but I'm finding more and more sellers are doing this now. It seems to be catching on.

They list items for sale having spent zero time researching what they are worth.
So their prices can be all over the place.
You then proceed to buy an item or put in an offer.
You'll get some lame excuse back a few days later that it's out of stock or they couldn't find it etc.
In reality the extra time has allowed them to check the real demand & market value.
A few days later the exact same title then re-appears at 6 times the original price.

This has happened to me on Ebay, Discogs and even Amazon for used items where there were no other copies available.

I'm getting a bit fed up doing all the ground work for these lazy sellers who don't know the true value of what they are selling and are using buyers to identify the 'sought' after items then hiking their prices accordingly.

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Posted: 23 May 2018, 12:00 

I began collecting LDs in 2006 so was a late comer to the format, yet even at that stage I was shocked at the inflated prices some sellers were looking for certain titles.

By way of example a typical seller on LDDB.com who resided in Japan was often looking a minimum of 5 times what they had paid for the item in Japan. Quite often it was more like 10 times! How do I know this?.....because when I started buying from Japan myself in 2007 I found out the real prices which were only a fraction of the prices the sellers were looking. Even taking into consideration the fees associated with buying from a proxy which the sellers who resided in Japan could often avoid their prices were astronomically inflated.

It seems to me the laserdisc marketplace was dominated by a few greedy sellers from Japan in the early days before proxies became common place. These sellers created artificially high prices since there was no shortage back then of rare titles - they obviously wanted to preserve that myth that there was a shortage. Even as late as 2007 when I logged onto Yahoo for the first time it was like looking at an ocean of rare titles as far as the eye could see - there were loads still available. 12 years on and 10,000 LDs later, things have certainly changed but I think those early sellers have a lot to answer for in terms of explaining where the high prices first originated from.

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Posted: 24 May 2018, 14:26 

There is also evidence from old threads online of sellers like Nicolas Santini originally based in Japan offering to sell titles from the early 2000s:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.cult-movies.alien/ezUDc2MFvQo

The reaction to some of those threads is very funny and also very telling especially in relation to pricing.
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