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Posted: 18 Aug 2013, 04:28
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Ultimate list of Laserdisc titles that are technically and/or content wise significant
Here is the list of Laserdisc titles that are technically unique (i.e. only OAR edition, theatrical audio mix etc.) and do not have any equivalent on any other format. The list also includes Laserdisc titles that have extra content or different cuts of the content that are not available on any other format.
Courtesy of lizardkingjr, there exist two threads for commentaries unique to Laserdisc. Below are the links for those threads.
http://forum.lddb.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=81
http://forum.lddb.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=82
This list will be updated as more titles are suggested. There will be separate chapters for popular movies such as Star Wars, and The Godfather as these titles have several different editions unique to Laserdisc.
Some Laserdisc titles listed here may exist on DVD or Blu-ray on different markets than the US.
Please Suggest Laserdisc titles that has,
- Different aspect ratio than found on other media i.e. open matte, OAR etc.
- Different audio track i.e. theatrical mix, theatrical soundtrack restored etc.
- Different color timing i.e. director approved color timing, theatrical color timing etc.
- Different cut of the movie i.e. director’s cut, special edition, theatrical cut, unrated cut etc.
- Different extras i.e. commentaries, documentary, interview etc.
- Also titles exist only on Laserdisc.
For none-US releases, please indicate whether they are English friendly or not (i.e. anime, foreign etc.) |
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Posted: 18 Aug 2013, 04:29
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Special Chapter:
In this chapter historically significant Laserdiscs are listed. They may be available on other formats but they first appeared on Laserdisc with a signifying technology or mastering method.
Abyss, The: Special Edition (1989) (Uncut) [1988-85] First THX labeled LD. Some earlier test titles exist but this LD is the first one with THX Laserdisc seal.
Bringing Out the Dead (1999) [LV335643-WS] Last LD released in the US(25 days after Sleepy Hollow)
Cell, The (2000) (Uncut) [PILF-2868] Very last English audio LD ever. 109min uncut version exist in R2/NTSC Japanese DVD.
Citizen Kane: Special Edition #1 # (1941) [CC101] Criterion Spine#1 and the very first special edition in home video
Clear and Present Danger (1994) [LV 32463-2WS] Very first AC-3 track on any home video format.
Batman Forever (1995) [NJWSL-13666] First Ac-3 LD in home video
Elton John: In Concert at Edinburgh [74-001] LD exclusive. First Pop music Laserdisc.
Fellini's Casanova (1976) [15-004] Opening credits are letterboxed at 1.77:1, making it the very first widescreen home video title.
Jaws (1975) [12-001] Very first Discovision title.
Jurassic Park (1993) [43115] Very first DTS track on any home video format.
Manhattan (1979) [ML100469] The very first letterboxed Laserdisc(entire movie) CED version is the very first Letterboxed title in home video history.
Schlafes Bruder (1995) [0004] Only SQZ LD with DTS audio(Full feature).
Star Wars: The Phantom Menace (1999) [PILF-2830] Very first Dolby Digital EX (AC-3 5.1 with matrixed rear center)soundtrack on any home video.
Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) [PILF-2187] First Squeeze/Anamorphic LD(according to catalog number)
Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) [PILF-2555] Only THX Squeeze LD. Last anamorphic title.
Tokyo Raiders (2000) [PILF-2870] Very Last LD pressed ever.
Chapter 1: Star Wars
Earlier CBS/FOX editions(CLV) are very close to theatrical cut. Early "A New Hope" pressings suffer shrinking aspect ratio. Aspect ratio gets wider as film progresses. Later Technidisc pressings are from a different master and free from this defect. they reportedly have less DVNR but has higher cross-talk levels.
Star Wars: A New Hope (FOX) (1977) [1130-85]
Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (1980) [1425-85]
Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (1983) [1478-85]
Special Collection(CBS/FOX) Japanese releases are the first widescreen releases. They are in CAV format in correct aspect ratio and has no DNR or EE. Much preferred by purist.
Star Wars: A New Hope (1977) [SF148-1196]
Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (1980) [SF148-1242]
Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (1983) [SF148-1343]
Definitive Collection Laserdiscs are also very close to theatrical cut. They are in CAV format, each film is on 3 disc/6sides. Video content is similar to CBS/FOX but some dialog differs from the Definitive set. This collection has extras that are not on DVD/BD. This cut exist on GOUT DVD editions in none-anamorphic(letterboxed) with Dolby Digital 2.0(192kbps) as an extra content. Same D1 master as definitive collection was used. These DVDs are also OOP now.
Star Wars Trilogy: Definitive Collection [0693-84]
Faces editions(CLV) include short interviews at the end that are also unique to these editions. Although mastered from the same D1 master as Definitive Collection, DNR and EE are more apparent on these discs.
Star Wars: A New Hope (1977) [8763-85]
Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (1980) [8764-85]
Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (1983) [8765-85]
Special edition set is the 1997 cut which exist only on Laserdisc. 2004 DVD release and 2012 BD releases have newer/altered cuts. Extra content on this set is also unique. Also available on VHS.
Star Wars Trilogy: Special Edition (1997) [4102985]
Special editions were pressed twice in Japan. Second pressing is much newer(11/22/2000) than the US and Japanese version and as similar to picture to US and first Japan pressings. There is a short 11min "Episode II making of" feature which is exclusive to this release.
Star Wars Trilogy: Special Edition (1997) [PILF-2860]
Lucas also altered The Phantom Menace on DVD then BD then again on 3D theatrical release. Laserdisc release is the only theatrical cut along with VHS release. VCDs with this cut exist outside the US.
Star Wars: The Phantom Menace (1999) [PILF-2830]
These below versions are PAL encoded. The first 2 are French Original Trilogy releases in THX/LBX and English audio(French imposed subtitles). The last one is the 1997 special edition in UK PAL version in English audio without subtitles. These versions represent SW Trilogy in highest resolution. PAL LD offers 625(576 visible) line vertical 440 line horizontal resolution opposed to NTSC LD's 525(480 visible) line vertical 425 line horizontal resolution. Lack of a reference quality Laserdisc player with PAL playback capability makes these releases less desirable.
Star Wars: Coffret Trilogie [168035]
Star Wars: La guerre des etoiles (1977) [113037]
Star Wars Trilogy: Special Edition (1997) [EE 1232]
Chapter 2: Godfather
1901-1980 set has all three movies merged together in one cut for TV broadcasting. It is open matte therefor in 1.33:1 aspect ratio.
Godfather Trilogy: 1901-1980 (1992) (Uncut) [LV15147-7]
1901-1959 Epic set is similar to above set but only has the first two movies mixed together. Only available in Japan.
Godfather: The Epic 1901-1959 (1990) [PILF-1147]
Chapter 3: Disney
Beauty and the Beast (1991) [1325 CS] Original Disney aspect ratio of 1.66:1 and correct color timing.
Lady and the Tramp (1955) [14673 AS] Disney made two versions of the movie. 2.35:1 aspect ratio cut is more common and available on DVD/BD. 1.33:1 open matte version is LD exclusive.
Song of the South (1946) [PILF-1096] Disney decided it is politically incorrect and never released on home video on any format in the US.
Below titles are the theatrical cuts. Disney later released these titles on DVD and BD but they are the newer cuts made in early 2000s and slightly different. LD versions have the theatrical soundtrack whereas DVD/BD versions have the newer home video mix.
Aladdin (1992) [1662 CS]
Mulan (1998) [PILA-3026]
Nightmare Before Christmas, The: Special Edition (1993) [2774 CS]
Pocahontas: Special Edition (1995) [6875 CS]
Lion King, The: Deluxe Edition (1994) [4613 CS] Has extra content different than later releases. AC-3 audio track is the theatrical mix.
Toy Story: Deluxe Edition (1995) [8847 CS] Politically incorrect content in extras(Knickknack) later altered on DVD/BD.
Chapter 4: James Cameron and Super 35
Several of James Cameron films are available in "Director's Pan & Scan Edition". These versions have the matted portions removed of the Super 35 film therefore it is possible to see more information on the bottom and top while slightly less on sides. This List will also include other notable "Pan&Scan" editions from different directors.
Abyss, The: Special Edition (1989) (Uncut) [1988-80]
Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) [LD68952-2]
Terminator 2: Judgment Day: Special Edition (1991) [82997-2]
True Lies (1994) [8640-80]
Titanic (1997) [LV 334813]
Other notable Super35 films on LD:
Top Gun: Special Collection (1986) [SF120-1480] |
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Chapter 5: NTSC Land
This section is dedicated for all the rest of the NTSC encoded Laserdisc releases which are significant.
12:01 (Twelve Oh One) (1993) [ID2542LI] DVD is cropped for 1.78:1. OAR is Academy ratio 1.33:1
200 Motels: Frank Zappa (1971) [ML100423] Not on DVD.
Adrenalin: Fear the Rush (1996) [ML 1002] HK LD is OAR. P&S on DVD.
Aftermath: Special Edition (1981) [RGL9623] Not on DVD.
Alamo, The (1960) (Uncut) [ML106354] This is the longest cut(Director's cut).
American Film Institute: Orson Welles (1975) [ID2010WV] All AFI Life achievement titles are LD exclusives.
American Cyborg: Steel Warrior (1994) [32120] Not on DVD/BD.
American Graffiti (1973) [42726] Unaltered theatrical version.
Alien (1979) [8760-85] The theatrical 6-track audio on AC-3 track.
A.P.E.X. (Apex) (1994) [LV20064] Not on DVD in the US.
Apocalypse, The (1996) [ID4115AP] Not on DVD.
Babylon 5: TV Pilot (1993) [NJL-12656] Different cut and music than US DVD and LD.
Babylon 5 #1.1: The Gathering (TV Pilot) (1993) [15647] Original broadcast aspect ratio. Later DVD releases are widescreen but CGI segments are cropped.
Black Mask (1996) (Uncut) [FT-038] Uncut(10mins longer)
Blacksnake: Russ Meyer (1973) [ID3480RM] Not on DVD/BD in the US. UK DVD is OOP.
Best of Roger Rabbit (1996) [5259 CS] uncensored on LD.
Blood and Sand (Sangre y Arena) (1989) (Uncut) [SWLD-3039] Uncut(24mins longer)
Braindead (1992) (Uncut) [PILF-1822] Uncut On LD
Brother from Space (Fratello dello spazio) (1988) [SF050-1553] not on DVD.
Cell, The (2000) (Uncut) [PILF-2868] Uncut(2mins longer) also exist in NTSC/R2 Japanese DVD.
Colossus: The Forbin Project/Silent Running [43128] Forbidden project is LBX on LD only
Cyborg (1989) (Uncut) [TOLE-3070] uncut on Japanese LD.
Cyborg 2 (1993) [PILF-1827] OAR on LD, P&S on DVD. OAR DVD exist in Germany.
Cyborg 3 (1994) [MGLC-94064] OAR on LD, P&S on DVD.
Boot, Das (The Boat) (1981) [PILF-7355] The longest 313 min TV version(no English audio or subtitles)
Dead Poets Society (1989) (Uncut) [7821 AS] 14mins longer TV edit cut
Delusion (1990) [90786] Not on DVD
Devil's Advocate, The (1997) [15090] The sculpture scenes is unaltered. Also has the theatrical soundtrack. Update: First batch of DVDs have the same content.
Dune: Movie + TV (1984) [PILF-7297] The TV cut is P&S. Made for TV broadcasting and it is longer. Later DVD release is widescreen but new footage is cropped.
DTS Experience (1998) [PILW-1258] Japan exclusive DTS LD.
Erik The Viking (1989) [ID7411OR] missing scenes on DVD.
Evil Dead, The (1981) [SF078-5044] OAR version with 1.33:1 and original mono soundtrack.
Fatal Attraction: Directors Series (1987) (Uncut) [LV 12881-2WS] longest cut
Fierce Creatures (1997) [43228] OAR 2.35:1, P&S on DVD.
Greed (1924) [ML101360] not on DVD.
Hawaii (1966) (Uncut) [ML101860] uncut on LD
Heavenly Creatures (1994) [4371 AS] Theatrical cut not on DVD
Innocent Blood (1992) [12570] Correct aspect ratio in cut version. German DVD also exist in uncut version.
It Came from Hollywood (1982) [LV 1421] Not on DVD/BD.
Keep, The (1983) [LV 1563-WS] LD exclusive in the US.
Last of the Mohicans, The (1992) [0896585] Theatrical cut.
Manhunter (1986) (Uncut) [411] Theatrical cut and sound mix.
Matrix, The (1999) [17665] Wachowski brothers later changed the color timing of this title to better match with the sequels green heavy color timing. LD edition is unaltered theatrical color timing.
Moon 44 (1990) [NDH-121] OAR in Japanese LD. OAR DVD exist in Denmark.
Napoleon (1927) [40086] not on DVD/BD.
Necronomicon (1993) [PILF-1951] not on DVD/BD. Also exist in US LD.
Nostradamus (1994) [ID3046OR] Korean DVD available.
Olympia I & II: Leni Riefenstahl's #338 (1938) [CC1489L] Only home version authorized by the director.
One Million Years B.C. (1966) (Uncut) [1995-85] European cut.
Patton: Special Edition (1970) [0414885] The theatrical 6-track audio on AC-3 track.
Ransom (1996) (Uncut) [8295 AS] Extended uncut version.
Ransom (1996) (Uncut) [PILF-2680] Japan exclusive DTS LD with extended uncut version.
Runestone, The (1990) [LD 68953-WS] P&S in Region 2 DVD only
Running Man, The (1987) [PILF-7156] open matte on Japanese LD
Scream: Director's Edition (1996) (Uncut) [14797 AS] Disney acquired Dimension Home Video after this release. Disney by policy will NOT release this title in unrated version(NC-17 cut).
Screamers (1995) [MGLC-97086] The Japanese release is widescreen. Also exist on DVD in widescreen in Europe.
Sidekicks (1992) [53606] Not on DVD.
Slipstream (1989) [SF047-1653] Only widescreen version available.
Strange Days (1995) [0893984] DVD is letterboxed/AC-3. LD is Letterboxed/DTS. BD exist in Germany (region B locked)
Solar Crisis (1990) [LDCVM5683WS] 1:78:1 aspect ratio where as OAR is 2:35:1. DVD version is 1.33:1. No BD as of yet.
Supernaturals, The (1986) [EHL-1095] Not on DVD/BD
Suspiria (1977) [ID6900MN] original soundtrack
Star Trek I: The Motion Picture (1979) (Uncut) [LV 8858-2A] Longer version in TV broadcast aspect ratio. Later DVD is longer but a different cut(also widescreen).
Tekwar: The Original Movie (1994) [41850] not on DVD/BD.
THX 1138 (1971) [11162] Unaltered theatrical cut.
True Lies (1994) [0864084] DVD is letterboxed and AC-3 only. Also exist D-theater tape with 1080i and full-bitrate DTS.
Twilight of the Cockroaches (1987) [LVD9201] Not on DVD
Twin Peaks: Pilot (European Cut) (1989) [NJL-35205] Longer European cut.
Until the End of the World (Bis ans Ende der Welt) (1991) (Uncut) [PILF-7271] Not on US DVD. Only uncut edition(181min) available in home video. Director's Cut(280min) is available on Italian DVD. US LD is 151min.
Vindicator, The (1986) [SF078-5197] Not on R1 DVD.
Wallace & Gromit: Collection [0610680] original soundtrack
Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988) [940 CS] Famous Jessica Rabbit exposed scene on CAV version.
Wonderful World of The Brothers Grimm, The (1962) [ML102427] not on DVD.
Wyatt Earp: Special Expanded Edition (1994) (Uncut) [13921] longest cut only on LD
Young Indiana Jones Chronicles (1992) (Uncut) [PCLP-00418] Uncut as originally broadcasted. |
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Posted: 05 Nov 2015, 06:01
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Posted: 05 Nov 2015, 06:56
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anyone as obsessive over a long-outmoded home video format as us LD enthusiasts generally tend to be,
would, in all probability, be considered quite "Weird" indeed in the eyes of about 99.9999999999999999999999% of the world population... |
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Posted: 05 Nov 2015, 08:07
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signofzeta wrote: You people are weird.
If you've got nothing to contribute, why comment at all? |
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Posted: 07 Nov 2015, 04:13
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I have never had a single DiscoVision disc in my collection despite owning dts LDs, MUSE discs, anamorphic PAL+ releases etc. I would love to own one but they are
hard to find in Europe. I wonder how they play on the X0. |
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Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 10:47
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| While the covers are kind of cool, and I understand the history of the discs themselves, I personally usually pass over disco vision discs when I run across them. Maybe I'm being ignorant, but everything I've heard is that they're not mastered very well. Also I believe they're all pan and scan? Which I'm not opposed to depending on the movie, but meh. Not for me. Cool pictures nonetheless. |
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Posted: 29 Jan 2022, 22:15
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The only downside with the Epic and Saga box sets is that the Italian language scenes are not subtitled in English (or the language of your choice of course).
I've seen the films more times than I've had hot dinners so am not too fussed about the lack of English subtitles. I guess if this UHD set had the Saga or Epic as branchable that would make the Laserdisc sets redundant. Part III has two cuts on one UHD disc which are branchable in this set so I don't think it would have been outside the realms of possibility to do it in this box set.
The price is bothering me for the deluxe set. I would hold out for a price drop but there is no indicator to say how limited this set is. Is it one run and done? I'm sitting an exam on Monday. If I pass I might pre order it as a treat for the hard work the past few months. Might go see Part I in the cinema too if it comes round my way.
Aside, I found this great featurette that explains how The Godfather I and II negatives were very nearly lost forever! A great watch, take a look. Incredible to think we nearly lost the original negatives to two of the greatest films ever made! Yes, two. Part III can jog on! :D
One other thing about the video below, it talks, albeit very briefly, about the film on CED and Laserdisc!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak19g0j10-Q |
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Posted: 31 Jan 2022, 18:26
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teddanson wrote: I'm sitting an exam on Monday. If I pass I might pre order it as a treat for the hard work the past few months.
€140 f***ing quid. f**k sake. Wish I'd failed the exam today now. |
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Posted: 31 Jan 2022, 20:04
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WOW they can fk themselves for that price.
I don't even think all the DVD and LD versions would get that much money in a collection, even with the TV cuts.
Just crazy and we all wonder how the rich stay rich or get richer....... |
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Posted: 09 Jul 2022, 03:58
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You would just need to have 500 euros to spare, and one of the ultra-rare prototype HD-MAC players.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/374142126063
https://www.ebay.com/itm/374142166951
Both discs are the same title:
"NL Mac 7
(Glass Plate No. 75162)"
Pressed at PDO Blackburn.
It seems like it could be Philips Evoluon - Rembrandt part 1 HD Mac 7 [HD MAC 7] .
https://i.imgur.com/Dd1qpoR.jpg |
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Posted: 09 Jul 2022, 19:03
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The seller actually has some more for sale that I didn't notice before.
I am going and add pictures of each (since the links will eventually die, and somebody in the future might want to know what they looked like).
"NL Mac 12
(Glass Plate No. 74511)" , Phillips label, with Phillips/Eureka "HD Mac Video Disc" sleeve
https://i.imgur.com/lCV8jX9.jpg
"NL Mac 5
(Glass Plate 72836)" , text-only label, no sleeve
https://i.imgur.com/wTTYd5Q.jpg
"HD MAC 66733" , text-only label, Phillips/Eureka "HD Mac Video Disc" sleeve
https://i.imgur.com/q3cvQaL.jpg
"NL Mac 11
(Glass Plate No. 74543)" , Phillips label, Phillips/Eureka "HD Mac Video Disc" sleeve
https://i.imgur.com/QlwAlVF.jpg
And lastly, a third 75162: https://www.ebay.com/itm/125379896326 |
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Posted: 11 Jul 2022, 02:53
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Posted: 24 Oct 2023, 14:39
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While not discs themselves, I love my early Discovision Chevrolet dealer kiosk and all its shag carpet glory!
Now if only I could find the TV for it that isnt $1000 on ebay...
https://scontent-hou1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/277157641_5300302160002092_6962089037406199983_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=TrJ9akwc9hQAX_y1NhY&_nc_oc=AQkw5GhpFTikSewhTEbHlp61H0ULR8uhYp3rZxBz_QRxpkFA1bR0lxSU1FrMBdX1L8g&_nc_ht=scontent-hou1-1.xx&oh=00_AfAlZ6fVJnnfQ2l1q9lpeB0QhRnE-c0A-ZVJ3jEZtm1uEg&oe=653C477F
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Posted: 04 Jan 2024, 01:55
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| finally got a space to unpack my LDs after 14 years in boxes. running a Pioneer D780 right now. Mostly interested in movies that are not on other media or not as good as on other media. |
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Jolly good for you ! Hope you enjoy the process.
Only two years in storage and I am experiencing a similar revival.
Similar however very different from 14 years.
Must type, even with only two years in boxes, the unpacking is a thrill all over the place......
Cheers to all, happy new year.... |
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