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spooky
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Post subject: Re: Awful experience with Ebay and laserdiscs Posted: 03 Jul 2024, 03:31 |
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They don't call it Evilbay for nothing. A Hive of dumb and incivility. Expect the worst and have low expectations about everyone on there. I learned that by about 1998 and because it has a virtual monopoly on things like Laserdiscs (yeah I know there are sellers here, but the last two I contacted didn't even bother replying to me, because, I suspect, they primarily sell their stuff through ebay) your only option is to deal with it and take it in the a** like everyone else. When you have a billion customers, the individual customer matters: 0. You'll find that out when you have over 1000 positive feedback, some buyer makes up a story about what they received and your whol account is suspended indefinitely. Happened to me more than once, but I factor it in to dealing with evil. Also fee creep, starting to get ridiculous, which is half the reason prices are so high on ebay, the other reason is being able to list indefinitely for free so you get speculators who just sit on stuff and hope for a sucker. People who know the value are SOL. I tried putting all my crap on ETSY once when I got completely fed up with the evil, but for what I sell, nothing sells there. Nobody looks for my stuff on ETSY because it's easier to just use ebay for most people, and ebay knows that. ebay and a lot of other modern monopolies (namely Blackrock) should be mandatorily broken up at this point like the media was in the US in the 30s because monopolies are destroying competition and people are getting screwed more and more. And no, I ain't no Commie, these monopolies haven't been created by a true free market, they've been created through lobby groups, vested interests and government protection.
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Post subject: Re: Awful experience with Ebay and laserdiscs Posted: 08 Jul 2024, 23:04 |
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If you check the tracking, you will be able to tell where the origin scan on the package was. spooky wrote: They don't call it Evilbay for nothing. A Hive of dumb and incivility. Expect the worst and have low expectations about everyone on there. I learned that by about 1998 and because it has a virtual monopoly on things like Laserdiscs (yeah I know there are sellers here, but the last two I contacted didn't even bother replying to me, because, I suspect, they primarily sell their stuff through ebay) your only option is to deal with it and take it in the a** like everyone else. When you have a billion customers, the individual customer matters: 0. You'll find that out when you have over 1000 positive feedback, some buyer makes up a story about what they received and your whol account is suspended indefinitely. Happened to me more than once, but I factor it in to dealing with evil. Also fee creep, starting to get ridiculous, which is half the reason prices are so high on ebay, the other reason is being able to list indefinitely for free so you get speculators who just sit on stuff and hope for a sucker. People who know the value are SOL. I tried putting all my crap on ETSY once when I got completely fed up with the evil, but for what I sell, nothing sells there. Nobody looks for my stuff on ETSY because it's easier to just use ebay for most people, and ebay knows that. ebay and a lot of other modern monopolies (namely Blackrock) should be mandatorily broken up at this point like the media was in the US in the 30s because monopolies are destroying competition and people are getting screwed more and more. And no, I ain't no Commie, these monopolies haven't been created by a true free market, they've been created through lobby groups, vested interests and government protection. The fees really are insane now. It is unfortunately the only place I can really sell dvds and blu rays I don't want anymore if I want to get much of anything back out of them. I try to not buy there much at all now. Only if I have to.
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Post subject: Re: Awful experience with Ebay and laserdiscs Posted: 08 Jul 2024, 23:42 |
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rein-o wrote: Yeah and now they have removed Amex as a payment option starting in the middle of next month. Stuff just sits now and doesn't move as fast as it used to. Oooh. Both sides might feel that a bit. I've definitely noticed some weirdness with eBay lately. The view count the last several years has been a bit off to me. I recently sold an extremely popular vintage game (3-4 sales a day). It had been up for 6 days and had 0 views when it sold. I find that very hard to believe, plus someone would have had to view it to use the send offer feature. signofzeta wrote: To not lose money selling things at a low price point you actually have to like…plan every single step of the process. There is no “Oh, I don’t need this anymore, I’ll put it on eBay for $10.” If you accidentally spend $0.50 too much on the envelope you’re in the red on sales that small.
It blows my mind how bad eBay is for common sellers now. I have stuff around the house that I would be glad to sell but it’s a money losing pain in the neck so it just sits there. If it’s not worth $300 minimum it simply isn’t worth the risk and if it is worth $300 you’ll have to charge $475 to actually get it. Small sales are simply not worth it at all on eBay anymore. My first step with anything is to see if anyone I know would want it (for cheaper than what it's worth) and for anything $25 shipped or less I am not taking the time to sell and ship it individually on eBay.
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Post subject: Re: Awful experience with Ebay and laserdiscs Posted: 09 Jul 2024, 03:24 |
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gypsy wrote: rein-o wrote: Yeah and now they have removed Amex as a payment option starting in the middle of next month. Stuff just sits now and doesn't move as fast as it used to. Oooh. Both sides might feel that a bit. I've definitely noticed some weirdness with eBay lately. The view count the last several years has been a bit off to me. I recently sold an extremely popular vintage game (3-4 sales a day). It had been up for 6 days and had 0 views when it sold. I find that very hard to believe, plus someone would have had to view it to use the send offer feature. signofzeta wrote: To not lose money selling things at a low price point you actually have to like…plan every single step of the process. There is no “Oh, I don’t need this anymore, I’ll put it on eBay for $10.” If you accidentally spend $0.50 too much on the envelope you’re in the red on sales that small.
It blows my mind how bad eBay is for common sellers now. I have stuff around the house that I would be glad to sell but it’s a money losing pain in the neck so it just sits there. If it’s not worth $300 minimum it simply isn’t worth the risk and if it is worth $300 you’ll have to charge $475 to actually get it. Small sales are simply not worth it at all on eBay anymore. My first step with anything is to see if anyone I know would want it (for cheaper than what it's worth) and for anything $25 shipped or less I am not taking the time to sell and ship it individually on eBay. yeah, same here. Some weridness. I have over 100 items up and sold one big sale 3 weeks ago and zero, nothing since then. My views/watchers have dropped way lower than before too. Before the big sale I was selling at least one thing a week. I feel like I'm about to be hit with some evil, the American guy who bought almost $500 worth of DVDs from me 3 weeks ago has left his package at his post office for 10 days according the tracking. I suspect he's going to try to pull something, open a case and use the "buyer is always right" philsophy of ebay who now rely on AI to review cases and won't even flag that he hasn't bothered to pick up his s**t. ebay is already notifying me with a big evil warning: "package hasn't arrived and is overdue!" like I've done anything wrong. I had a similar attempt with a Brazilian buyer a month ago and I had to go through a million hoops to actually get on the phone with a person to get him to look at the tracking information saying the item was with customs before ebay automatically refunded the lying buyer. I had to follow up again after that to actually get them to decline his case. So much stress and time. The worst is the ebay reps and their endless scripts "thank you for being with ebay blah blah blah". I'm like yeah yeah, 5th time I've heard that script this week. Shut the f up and let's fix your mistake affecting "your loyal customer" (who actually has no choice but to be your customer) FFS. Damn we've created such a dumb world. It's only getting dumber.
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Post subject: Re: Awful experience with Ebay and laserdiscs Posted: 09 Jul 2024, 04:28 |
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gypsy wrote: That's definitely very suspicious. I know when I've got a package and especially one where I paid that kind of money I'd be doing everything I could to make sure I get it. Hell recently Fedex was struggling to deliver to me (delivering to my neighbor or not at all) and their customer service is useless plus you can't actually get the local number for any fedex place so I had to drive to where their trucks go out of to get it sorted. It should be fine going forward now, I talked with the (newer) driver on this last one (I had sig confirmation put on it) and he now knows the address. Of course how he didn't before is beyond me since it is all very clearly marked. Fedex is the cheapest and fastest option from Japan for me at this point so this was important for me to get sorted.
I block all other countries selling on eBay at this point because I do not have time for this BS. Sounds harsh but it just adds another layer when you are shipping overseas. Now for here or on a forum where you can or even have to talk to your buyer I have no problem with it. Talking to people humanizes the other for both sides and really cuts back on the bs. I've not had a single issue shipping internationally OFF eBay and I've done it many times. eBay was mostly good as well the few times I used their program but when I found out they CRAPPILY REPACKAGE things I stopped that immediately. I think the last thing I did sell internationally on eBay was a multi-format VCR. I unblocked the buyers location after they messaged me and we talked back and forth a little. I did not use the shipping program. Made it safely to the UK, buyer was thrilled.
I hope you have a happy ending here but what you are saying does not bode well. Good news for me and weird timing. Tracking finally updated to delivered today! I messaged him just to check he was happy with everything. He got straight back and he was just back from a vacation, picked up his package and is very happy with what he got he says. I was wrong and he was a good dude, because so many things do go wrong with the systems we have in place for a lot of stuff now I tend to catastrophise because it's actually really surprising when something actually goes smoothly. Yeah usually anglosphere buyers are the most trustworthy but you're right it's always ideal to communicate first and build at least some trust. Don't blame you for only selling in the US. It's interesting on ebay I've been ripped off by Germans, Japanese, South Americans multiple times over the years. Once by an American and never by a Chinese or Australian seller. Australian sellers can be idiots and pack things like retards and argue like morons but they're never trying to scam you. Probably because they're too dumb/rich to know how to or be bothered. I've banned South America from my sales because the two times things have gone really wrong in the last year it was from South Americans and the only two South Americans I sent to. I had to go to small claims court in my jurisdiction to get back the money ebay sucked out of my bank account to refund a lying Brazillian. You have me a little worried about the Terminator LD I have on the way to me from a US seller. Global shipping program, hope they don't f up the packaging... Anyways...
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Post subject: Re: Awful experience with Ebay and laserdiscs Posted: 06 Aug 2024, 00:04 |
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spyrogyro wrote: Thought about it a few times selling stuff on eBay but having read and heard of a few horror stories of locals who have tried it, has always made me decide against it.
So I sell any items on the local FB Marketplace. Higher value items such as Snatcher (Sega CD), and PDS (Saturn) I could have gotten more via eBay but I rather have a bit less and peace of mind selling to fellow local collectors rather than the real prospect of ending up with nothing. I used to do this with Gumtree here in Australia but its so dead now coz apparently everyones on FB Marketplace, but I refuse to ever become part of FB's matrix so I'm f'd.
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