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Author: | neiltracy00 [ 04 Jun 2019, 11:54 ] |
Post subject: | Analog sound laserdiscs |
Newbie alert question !!. just bought my second laserdisc i did not know my pioneer cld-s315 wont play pal analogue only ntsc. Is there any sort of signage on a cover i see for sale online that would alert me what the sound is on a disc ??. i could ask the seller but if they did not know i wondered if there was anything else ?? cheers |
Author: | admin [ 04 Jun 2019, 12:51 ] |
Post subject: | Re: analogue sound laserdiscs |
neiltracy00 wrote: Is there any sort of signage on a cover i see for sale online that would alert me what the sound is on a disc ?? As long as PAL is concerned, you need to have Digital Audio on the cover (not Digitally Processed or Digitally Mastered). Seeing the CX logo is also a clue that it's a PAL analog soundtrack. And best double-checking the database if the information is available. You want to avoid PAL ANALOG: https://www.lddb.com/search.php?adv_search=*&adv_reference=&video=2&sound=1&format=ld and PAL ANALOG-CX: https://www.lddb.com/search.php?adv_search=*&adv_reference=&video=2&sound=2&format=ld Julien |
Author: | neiltracy00 [ 04 Jun 2019, 13:16 ] |
Post subject: | Re: analogue sound laserdiscs |
admin wrote: neiltracy00 wrote: Is there any sort of signage on a cover i see for sale online that would alert me what the sound is on a disc ?? As long as PAL is concerned, you need to have Digital Audio on the cover (not Digitally Processed or Digitally Mastered). Seeing the CX logo is also a clue that it's a PAL analog soundtrack. And best double-checking the database if the information is available. You want to avoid PAL ANALOG: https://www.lddb.com/search.php?adv_search=*&adv_reference=&video=2&sound=1&format=ld and PAL ANALOG-CX: https://www.lddb.com/search.php?adv_search=*&adv_reference=&video=2&sound=2&format=ld Julien I learned the hard way !!!. thanks for the info too |
Author: | takeshi666 [ 05 Jun 2019, 15:51 ] |
Post subject: | Re: analogue sound laserdiscs |
I think some higher end players do play analog audio on both PAL and NTSC, but I don't think there are enough analog-only PAL discs worth getting to justify the investment. |
Author: | blam1 [ 05 Jun 2019, 20:04 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Analog sound laserdiscs |
The following Pioneer consumer (non-industrial) players will play Analog and Digital audio on PAL discs: PAL Only: CLD-1200 CLD-1400 CLD-1600 CLD-2950 CLD-600 NTSC / PAL: CLD-1450 CLD-D515 CLD-D925 DVL-919E The only ones I have direct experience with are the CLD-D925 and DVL-919E, both of which are excellent. The CLD-2950 is a step down, being equivalent to the CLD-D503 in the US. the CLD-2950, D515, D925 and DVL-919E are the only two sided players in this list. |
Author: | takeshi666 [ 06 Jun 2019, 11:39 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Analog sound laserdiscs |
Yeah, if you must have analog PAL support, you're probably better off just buying a PAL only player as a second machine if you already own one that plays NTSC discs. |
Author: | yaffle2345 [ 08 Jul 2019, 18:08 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Analog sound laserdiscs |
blam1 wrote: The following Pioneer consumer (non-industrial) players will play Analog and Digital audio on PAL discs: PAL Only: CLD-1200 CLD-1400 CLD-1600 CLD-2950 CLD-600 NTSC / PAL: CLD-1450 CLD-D515 CLD-D925 DVL-919E The only ones I have direct experience with are the CLD-D925 and DVL-919E, both of which are excellent. The CLD-2950 is a step down, being equivalent to the CLD-D503 in the US. the CLD-2950, D515, D925 and DVL-919E are the only two sided players in this list. Certainly the DVL-909 can play analogue too. I think I'm right in saying that all non-Pioneer PAL players can play analogue too - so Sony, Philips, Marantz etc., it was only Pioneer who were so cheap as to remove the necessary circuitry. One other small area of incompatibility concerns the CX noise-reduction system on analogue discs. This was rarely used in the UK - pretty much only for Pioneer own-label discs. Earlier players had a "CX" button, but then someone had the bright idea of auto-switching based on a flag on the disc. However some early discs did not have the necessary flag encoded, and some later Pioneer players did away with the ability to switch the decoding on manually - so you end up playing a Pioneer CX disc on a Pioneer CX-capable player, but unable to switch on the CX decoding! The only disc I have like this is the UK "Simon and Garfunkel in Central Park" release. PS I believe the CLD-2950 was in fact PAL/NTSC |
Author: | lons_vex [ 08 Jul 2019, 22:54 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Analog sound laserdiscs |
I can second this, the CLD-2950 was the absolute top of the line player in Europe for a while, and it could do PAL and NTSC playback. |
Author: | takeshi666 [ 06 Nov 2019, 22:11 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Analog sound laserdiscs |
Are there any analog only releases that actually let you turn CX off? |
Author: | signofzeta [ 07 Nov 2019, 00:00 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Analog sound laserdiscs |
takeshi666 wrote: Are there any analog only releases that actually let you turn CX off? If the flag has caused CX to turn on then you can’t shut it off. If the disc has no CX then it won’t switch on, you can switch it on manually. |
Author: | ldfan [ 07 Nov 2019, 19:40 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Analog sound laserdiscs |
takeshi666 wrote: Are there any analog only releases that actually let you turn CX off? I recall this title being able to switch CX on and off. https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/23192/LV ... th-of-Khan Can’t confirm anymore since I sold it years ago. |
Author: | signofzeta [ 07 Nov 2019, 20:55 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Analog sound laserdiscs |
It looks like a ton of people have that release so it should be easy for someone to check. With a 1982 street date it’s possible it was before the flag was invented in which case you’d be free to turn it on and off. Sadly Disclord would have answered this question easily but we lost his considerable wisdom of early LD. |
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