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Post subject: Re: Titles with impressive AC-3 Dolby Posted: 26 Jul 2020, 21:15 |
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jakeheke wrote: Anyone have and feedback on the Ac-3 track for Braveheart and Forrest Gump? May watch one tonight if either are particularly good I recall Forest Gump being quite impressive especially during the combat scene and the fishing boat storm scene. Overall, it's not the type of movie w/ a lot of surround activity but it's amazing when it does kick in. I have Braveheart on DVD and can't remember if I found it impressive or not. I would guess the DVD would have the same AC-3 mix as the LD since it was an early release before the producers did a lot of remixing for the home.
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Post subject: Re: Titles with impressive AC-3 Dolby Posted: 27 Jul 2020, 02:23 |
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teddanson wrote: I was referring to the soundtracks released on LDs, not the recent stuff Julien
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Post subject: Re: Titles with impressive AC-3 Dolby Posted: 15 Sep 2020, 08:00 |
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jakeheke wrote: Spun, Lost World, The: Jurassic Park (1997) [43310] Thats a fantastic AC3 mix to my Earholes Absolutely agree. The optional PCM soundtrack is probably just as impressive too, in fact superior in many ways but I suppose at the end of the day it's down to personal preferences and maybe the actual system it's played on which determines which to choose?
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Post subject: Re: Titles with impressive AC-3 Dolby Posted: 15 Sep 2020, 09:09 |
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laserfanhld-gb wrote: jakeheke wrote: Spun, Lost World, The: Jurassic Park (1997) [43310] Thats a fantastic AC3 mix to my Earholes Absolutely agree. The optional PCM soundtrack is probably just as impressive too, in fact superior in many ways but I suppose at the end of the day it's down to personal preferences and maybe the actual system it's played on which determines which to choose? I may have to do that next time i watch on LD, PCM into pro-logic or just raw stereo GB?
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Post subject: Re: Titles with impressive AC-3 Dolby Posted: 15 Sep 2020, 09:51 |
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jakeheke wrote: laserfanhld-gb wrote: jakeheke wrote: Spun, Lost World, The: Jurassic Park (1997) [43310] Thats a fantastic AC3 mix to my Earholes Absolutely agree. The optional PCM soundtrack is probably just as impressive too, in fact superior in many ways but I suppose at the end of the day it's down to personal preferences and maybe the actual system it's played on which determines which to choose? I may have to do that next time i watch on LD, PCM into pro-logic or just raw stereo GB? Yes pro-logic Jake, although my preference would be for DTS Neo:6 (Cinema mode) which I usually find sounds more dynamic and spatially transparent than any of the Dolby options, once again only my personal preference though. You just got me thinking now about JP 2; not run it for sometime but I have recollections of the DD track on disc 2 not sounding anywhere near as good as it does on the first disc and the difference between PCM & DD 5.1 was like a gulf, I don't have my version to hand atm so can't confirm the release number. Might be worth checking this out again to see if my memory rings true?
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Post subject: Re: Titles with impressive AC-3 Dolby Posted: 15 Sep 2020, 21:21 |
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PCM is always impressive when it comes to two channel audio reproduction especially when the right combination of DA conversion and filtering is applied. However, it can’t compete with anything related to a well mixed multi channel discrete surround sound since it’s not designed for that. One exception of a poorly executed AC3 encoded laserdisc would be this title..... https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/07223/ML ... al-EditionThe DD track is encoded in 4.0 (three front channels and one surround channel) and the audio levels are also pretty low. When switching to the PCM track and using Pro-Logic, the audio suddenly becomes incredibly spacious and robust with very tight bass. Thus, this is one of the few titles I would just forgot about listening to the AC3 track.
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Post subject: Re: Titles with impressive AC-3 Dolby Posted: 15 Sep 2020, 23:50 |
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jakeheke wrote: Spun, Lost World, The: Jurassic Park (1997) [43310] Thats a fantastic AC3 mix to my Earholes I also would vote for this. It’s an extremely bad bad bad movie but not on any technical level. It’s one of my best AC-3 LDs. Another horrible POS I would vote for would be Goldeneye. It’s one of the best LDs ever made on almost every level except for the moronic artistically bankrupt garbage movie that’s it’s all wrapped around. There are other threads like this and in them I usually mention Oneamisu no Tsubasa (Wings of Honneamise): Memorial Box (1987) [BEAL-1142]. They used the DD tech but not so much the style sheet. Voices come from wherever they want them to come from instead of only from the center like so many mainstream movies. Do you like Ryuichi Sakamoto in 5.1? You probably do. There is a CLV version as well but...come on. It’s also one of the only 5.1 LDs there is so you sorta have to get it....one of the best LDs ever INCLUDING the actual movie.
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Post subject: Re: Titles with impressive AC-3 Dolby Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 01:31 |
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Casper DTS and DD Saving Private Ryan AC-3 Godzilla 1998 Star Wars Phantom menace AC-3 EX And the many others Kind Regards
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Post subject: Re: Titles with impressive AC-3 Dolby Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 16:09 |
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knatterbuechse wrote: And yeah, "Saving Private Ryan" is another good example of what an uncompressed AC3 soundtrack can sound like. AC3 on LD is very, very much compressed, at a fixed 384kbps to be precise. DVD is usually 448kbps up to 640kbps. AC3 on BluRay can't go higher than 640kbps (to keep backwards hardware compatibility I presume). That's why they came up with DD+ (up to 6.144Mbps but a lot of online video streaming offer only 48kbps) and Dolby True HD for uncompressed lossless (up to 18 Mbps) to go beyond these limitations. Julien
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Post subject: Re: Titles with impressive AC-3 Dolby Posted: 18 Sep 2020, 07:42 |
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admin wrote: knatterbuechse wrote: Dolby True HD for uncompressed (up to 18 Mbps) to go beyond these limitations. TrueHD is still compressed, but it's lossless compression. As to hot AC3 mixes, I found Independence Day to be a very active mix with very hot LFE, possibly with a good bit of sub-20hz content... maybe it's an unaltered theatrical mix? I do not recall the 5-Star Edition DVD being as hot on the LFE, and my current Steelbook Blu-Ray (can't recall if it's TrueHD or DTS-HD Master) isn't either.
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