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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: Recommendations for "Best of the Best" in Criterion LDs  Posted: 03 Jan 2022, 13:04 |
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Criterion isn’t about making the best version of something. They are more about filling holes in your library (your own or an actual public/university library) that would always exist if not for them. There are many Criterion LDs that are just…the movie, because in the 80s there were a lot of very significant films that had never been on video ever. Therefore some of the “best” Criterion LDs didn’t really use the best transfer or maybe had zero special features. You seem quite worshipful of Criterion but I’m not sure you get what they were doing back then. If you’re only after presentation you may be very disappointed in a lot of what they released on LD. It isn’t about 7even and Armageddon. Those are honestly closer to shark jumping, IMO. Just fancy versions of normal movies (too) easily found anywhere, more or less made to stroke the ego of the still living director who wants to see his stuff on the same shelf as his Kurosawa collection.
That being said, I think a really good Criterion LD based on your version of it would be the CAV version of Robin Hood. It looks about as good as it possibly could. It’s in CAV. It has a running commentary by a film nerd and the photos and videos contained in the extras section are very interesting and further one’s appreciation of the movie.
Also the giant version of Brazil will always be a favorite of mine. One of few LDs to have more than one cut of movie in it. The director was in on it, lots of test FX shots, commentary track, etc. Brazil was movie ruined by its own owners. This was the first way this excellent movie was available in it’s true form, so this is an example of Criterion doing what they do best.
I’ll vote for F for Fake because it’s an amazing movie that nobody else would release. I don’t think any of the features are super impressive, the movie is though.
Many early Criterion releases were like Annie Hall. Just a great movie, widescreen, nice sleeve, that’s pretty much it.
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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: Recommendations for "Best of the Best" in Criterion LDs  Posted: 03 Jan 2022, 13:10 |
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atlas_obscure wrote: personally i would say the cav version of john woo's the killer but thats because its one of my favorite films but the ld version is one of the best versions out there so thats my recommendation This movie is so great that I’d love it in any version! Every one I’ve seen was pretty bad. I used to watch that one version where they called each other Mickey Mouse and Numb Nuts or something like that. So blurry it looked like it was underwater. It never matters. The hair stands up on my neck every time I see it. This is the truly inspired work of masters, the sort of thing Tarantino got rich from ripping off and approximating but never achieving.
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Post subject: Re: Recommendations for "Best of the Best" in Criterion LDs  Posted: 30 Sep 2023, 04:17 |
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There are some great recommendations here with The Killer (CAV), Brazil (CAV), and Robin Hood (CAV). The Red Shoes is a beautiful transfer with stunning colors and does hold up well.
I've always loved the CAV version of Akira. It's a beautiful triple gate-fold release with a lot of extras.
Seven, The Game, Boogie Nights, Evita, The Rock, and Armageddon are all beautiful later releases with great picture and sound. I don't think that the transfers are better than the other non-Criterion releases.
Some have been re-released on Blu-ray with more features (and obviously better picture). Beauty and the Beast (1946) is one that I own both on LD & Blu-ray as a Criterion. The Blu-ray is far superior and also has Philip Glass' score for it as an alternative soundtrack, which is fantastic!
Some of the older Criterion releases have laserdisc exclusive commentaries. The first three Bond films were released as CAV & CLV on through Criterion. The CAV releases famously have the "banned" commentaries and were supposedly recalled. The Criterion release of Chasing Amy has a commentary with Kevin Smith that is a lot of fun. At the beginning he mentions that you are watching it on laserdisc and says "f*** DVD". I'm not sure if they cut or changed that for the future Criterion DVD release.
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