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Author:  laserdiscoking [ 14 Oct 2011, 09:47 ]
Post subject:  CED US List: Concerts and Music Videos
Unfortunately there's lots of middle of the road dreck. Some cool stuff, like the CED exclusive two disc Urgh! A Music War with two hours of New Wave live performances.


Music CED

ABC: Mantrap {76476122171}
Adam and The Ants: Prince Charming Revue {24543714491}
Ashford & Simpson {76476121426}
Asia In Asia

Barry Manilow Special, The {74643812528}
Beatles: Compleat , The {74643821025}
Beatles: Let It Be
Bette Midler: Divine Madness {76476131487}
Bette Midler Show, The {42995125160}
Billy Joel Live from Long Island {24543629795}
Blondie: Eat to the Beat {76476020255}
Blues Alive Concert (John Mayall, Albert King, Mick Fleetwood etc) {76476121457}
Bob Welch and Friends: Live from the Roxy {76476120948}

Carole King: One To One {27616102195}
Charlie Daniels Band: The Saratoga Concert {74643804523}
Christine McVie: The Video Album {28485010130}
Cool Cats: 25 Years of Rock 'n' Roll Style (Various Artists){27616103178}
Culture Club: A Kiss Across the Ocean {24543665991}

David Bowie: Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars* {76476121761}
Devo: We're All Devo* {76476122324}
Dexys Midnight Runners {76476122188}
Diana Ross in Concert {76476121198}
Dizzy Gilespie's Dream Band: Jazz in America* {76476121389}
Dolly Parton in London {76476121303}
Don Kirshner Presents Rock Concert, Vol. 1 (Various Artists){76476020293}
Doobie Brothers Live In Concert- Santa Barbara {76476121211}
Duran Duran: The First 11 Videos {76476121723}

Earth, Wind and Fire in Concert {28485020061}
Electric Light Orchestra Live at Wembley {74643714426}
Elton John: Visions {42995120165}
Elvis On Tour {74643817424}
Elvis: Aloha from Hawaii {76476020552}
Elvis: His 1968 Comeback Special {76476020569}
Eurythmics: Sweet Dreams the Video Album {76476121853}
Everly Brothers Reunion Concert, The {27616103314}

Fleetwood Mac In Concert: Mirage Tour '82 {76476121396}
Fleetwood Mac: Documentary and Live Concert {76476020460}

The Go-Go's Totally {76476121266}
Grover Washington, Jr in Concert {27616102034}

Hall & Oates: Rock'N Soul Live {76476122140}
Harry Chapin: The Final Concert {24543709695}
Herbie Hancock and the Rockit Band {24543661993}

James Taylor in Concert {24543702399}
Jefferson Starship In Concert {76476121679}
Jethro Tull: Slipstream {76476121167}
Joni Mitchell- Shadows and Light {76476120795}
Judy Garland: Best of {76476120511}

Kenny Loggins Alive! {76476121204}
Kids from Fame Live at the Royal Albert Hall, The {27616102058}

Last Waltz, The (The Band) [monophonic] {76476014070}
Last Waltz, The (The Band) {76476114367}
Linda Ronstadt In Concert {28485010123}
Little River Band: Live Exposure {76476121532}

Michael Jackson's Making Thriller {28485010000}
Melissa Manchester Music of , The {76476121006}

Neil Diamond: Love at the Greek {28485010055}U Side2
Neil Young: Rust Never Sleeps {76476120627}
No Nukes: The Muse Concert (Various){74643755627}

One-Night Stand: A Keyboard Event (Various){24543704492}
Other Side of Nashville, The (Various) {27616103512}

Paul McCartney & Wings Rockshow {76476120986}
Paul Simon In Concert [monophonic] {76476020477}
Paul Simon In Concert {76476120757}
Pavarotti In London {76476121655}
Picture Music (Various) {76476122225}
Pink Floyd at Pompeii {76476120610}
Pink Floyd The Wall {27616102683}
Prince's Trust Rock Gala, The (Various) {27616101792}
Prince: Purple Rain

Queen Greatest Flix {76476121365}

RCA's All-Star Country Music Fair (Various) {76476121242}
REO Speedwagon in Concert Live Infidelity {74643755528}
Rod Stewart: Live at the Los Angeles Forum {76476120740}
Rod Stewart: Tonight He's Yours {42995121162}
Rolling Stones: Gimme Shelter [monophonic] {76476018016}U Side2 IMDb
Rolling Stones: Gimme Shelter {76476118086}
Rolling Stones: Let's Spend the Night Together {42995123166}
Rolling Stones: Video Rewind {28485010161}
Roxy Music: The High Road {76476122157}
Rush/Exit...Stage Left {76476121273}

Sacred Music of Duke Ellington, The {74643835329}
Secret Policeman's Other Ball, The (Various) {74643833127}
Sheena Easton Live at the Palace, Hollywood {76476121778}
Simon & Garfunkel: Concert in Central Park {74643804622}
Steve Miller Band Live {76476121822}
Stevie Nicks- In Concert {24543713692}

Teddy Pendergrass: Live in London {24543713593}
Tony Bennett Songbook, A {76476121174}R Side2
Tubes Video, The {76476121419}

Urgh! A Music War (2) (Various) {24543772095}

Willie Nelson and Family in Concert {24543662396}
Woodstock (2) {76476131104}
The Who: Quadrophenia {76476121693}R Side2 IMDb
The Who Rocks America 1982 American Tour {24543623496}
The Who: Tommy {76476130251}
Author:  laserdisc_fan [ 14 Oct 2011, 21:11 ]
Post subject:  Re: CED US List: Concerts and Music Videos
Looking down that list the only two I don't have on Laserdisc because they were never released on that format are:
Don Kirshner Presents Rock Concert, Vol. 1 (Various Artists){76476020293}
Teddy Pendergrass: Live in London {24543713593}

Urgh! A Music War - I have on PAL laserdisc. It is a single disc edition 2 hours long as it plays both sides.

Music titles available on LD run into the many thousands.

The CED music titles did however have many unique and interesting covers, often completely different from their laserdisc counterparts so I can understand why these might appeal to music fans.
I know they have grabbed my attention on Ebay when surfing!
Author:  mikeystoyz [ 23 Oct 2011, 05:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: CED US List: Concerts and Music Videos
Lol, got a sealed copy of Duke Ellington today while I was buying a laserdisc collection. Now I have 1 CED
Author:  elviscaprice [ 23 Oct 2011, 05:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: CED US List: Concerts and Music Videos
Urgh! A Music War is available on DVD by Warner Brothers. No special remaster, but PCM sound. To make it fit they did cut out a single track. No loss. Is as good or better than the laserdisc.

8-) Elvis
Author:  laserdisc_fan [ 23 Oct 2011, 21:44 ]
Post subject:  Re: CED US List: Concerts and Music Videos
elviscaprice wrote:
Urgh! A Music War is available on DVD by Warner Brothers. No special remaster, but PCM sound. To make it fit they did cut out a single track. No loss. Is as good or better than the laserdisc.

8-) Elvis


That is fairly typical of most DVD reissues - compress as much onto 1 DVD as possible even if means rubbish quality and if it still doesn't fit cut some of the content out!
That is precisely why I collect the laserdisc version! People who have never seen the laserdisc will never know the difference.
Author:  elviscaprice [ 24 Oct 2011, 00:51 ]
Post subject:  Re: CED US List: Concerts and Music Videos
laserdisc_fan wrote:
elviscaprice wrote:
Urgh! A Music War is available on DVD by Warner Brothers. No special remaster, but PCM sound. To make it fit they did cut out a single track. No loss. Is as good or better than the laserdisc.

8-) Elvis


That is fairly typical of most DVD reissues - compress as much onto 1 DVD as possible even if means rubbish quality and if it still doesn't fit cut some of the content out!
That is precisely why I collect the laserdisc version! People who have never seen the laserdisc will never know the difference.


LOL, you don't think there was editing when the original release was made? Doesn't make it holy scripture just because it's older print.

LOL, again DVD release is better than the laserdisc. You don't think the laserdisc is a compressed format? Even though we don't talk of analogue signal in such a way, in comparison the LD is of less quality than the DVD. The DVD and the LD both being mastered off the master tape separately but totally different technologies. DVD sound is definitely of superior quality than the LD, in this case get the DVD, thank me later.

Again it all goes back to the record labels who own these masters/rights and the $$$$ they make as to how much to put into the project of reissue. So if someone can do a pirated job better, I applaud them. There is no holy grail in the original releases, it's all about profit.

8-) Elvis
Author:  publius [ 24 Oct 2011, 01:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: CED US List: Concerts and Music Videos
In the case of mastering from composite video, which is 99% of concert films & music videos produced before maybe 1995, the LD will be better. This is, of course, because composite-to-component translation followed by MPEG-II compression must of necessity give worse results than straight composite without compression. When the footage was shot & edited on film or component video, other outcomes are possible, but in many cases even pieces shot on film were edited as video.

LD analog audio is of extremely high fidelity. LD digital audio is uncompressed Redbook PCM, identical to a CD, whereas most stereo DVDs are in highly-compressed AC3 2.0, rather than PCM which would be more appropriate.
Author:  elviscaprice [ 24 Oct 2011, 01:51 ]
Post subject:  Re: CED US List: Concerts and Music Videos
publius wrote:
In the case of mastering from composite video, which is 99% of concert films & music videos produced before maybe 1995, the LD will be better. This is, of course, because composite-to-component translation followed by MPEG-II compression must of necessity give worse results than straight composite without compression. When the footage was shot & edited on film or component video, other outcomes are possible, but in many cases even pieces shot on film were edited as video.

LD analog audio is of extremely high fidelity. LD digital audio is uncompressed Redbook PCM, identical to a CD, whereas most stereo DVDs are in highly-compressed AC3 2.0, rather than PCM which would be more appropriate.


Yes, but here is where the problem occurs in the technology of the flow. A laserdisc player (depends on the player) is inferior in getting that straight composite without compression signal out in a superior manner than DVD to the screen, here I give the nod to LD, but prefer remastered digital. Also, the sound in this case is of analogue quality on the LD, note: Just because the band width is capable of Redbook PCM doesn't mean the actual sound track is of that quality in that wrapper. Here is where the DVD PCM sound can easily be superior if done right. Here I usually will take PCM DVD sound over LD.
Author:  publius [ 24 Oct 2011, 16:25 ]
Post subject:  Re: CED US List: Concerts and Music Videos
elviscaprice wrote:
Yes, but here is where the problem occurs in the technology of the flow. A laserdisc player (depends on the player) is inferior in getting that straight composite without compression signal out in a superior manner than DVD to the screen, here I give the nod to LD, but prefer remastered digital.

What? I assure you, that statement makes no sense in the English language, & despite my extensive knowledge of video electronics & technology, I have not the slightest idea what you are talking about.

elviscaprice wrote:
Also, the sound in this case is of analogue quality on the LD, note: Just because the band width is capable of Redbook PCM doesn't mean the actual sound track is of that quality in that wrapper. Here is where the DVD PCM sound can easily be superior if done right. Here I usually will take PCM DVD sound over LD.

Again, what? If you are saying that the LD digital soundtrack mastering is sometimes poor, that's software-dependent. And, anyway, PCM on DVD is not very common.
Author:  elviscaprice [ 24 Oct 2011, 17:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: CED US List: Concerts and Music Videos
I will agree that I didn't expound that very well.
I can assure you that PCM is very common on DVD, especially for musical material, which is where my main interest is.

8-) Elvis
Author:  laserdiscoking [ 25 Oct 2011, 17:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: CED US List: Concerts and Music Videos
publius wrote:
elviscaprice wrote:
Yes, but here is where the problem occurs in the technology of the flow. A laserdisc player (depends on the player) is inferior in getting that straight composite without compression signal out in a superior manner than DVD to the screen, here I give the nod to LD, but prefer remastered digital.

What? I assure you, that statement makes no sense in the English language, & despite my extensive knowledge of video electronics & technology, I have not the slightest idea what you are talking about.



I agree, I'm at a loss. I'm afraid that someone set us up the bomb and that all our base are belong to him.
Author:  elahrairrah [ 25 Oct 2011, 17:59 ]
Post subject:  Re: CED US List: Concerts and Music Videos
elviscaprice wrote:
I will agree that I didn't expound that very well.
I can assure you that PCM is very common on DVD, especially for musical material, which is where my main interest is.

8-) Elvis

DVD PCM is 1536kbps
LD PCM is 1441kbps

So yeah, DVD PCM is superior by a smidge. However, I've only ever seen a few music video DVD releases in full bitrate PCM.
Author:  admin [ 25 Oct 2011, 18:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: CED US List: Concerts and Music Videos
elahrairrah wrote:
So yeah, DVD PCM is superior by a smidge. However, I've only ever seen a few music video DVD releases in full bitrate PCM.


I've seen more in Japan, especially on Jazz, Classical and live concerts (offering both DD5.1 or DTS 5.1 along with a 2.0 LPCM). That represents more data to store and usually they choose to go for 2-DVD releases, making a nice package with extra inserts/photos at the same time.

Julien
Author:  laserdisc_fan [ 28 Dec 2011, 23:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: CED US List: Concerts and Music Videos
I recently acquired a copy of Mick Fleetwood - The Visitor on the RCA CED format. It was video story behind the making of the LP with the same title.
Bizarrely it doesn't appear to have been released on any other format except CED.

http://cedmagic.com/v-title-database/wi ... ood-1.html
http://cedmagic.com/v-title-database/wi ... ood-2.html

It was one on my wishlist for a long time.
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