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| Author: | mikeystoyz [ 11 Oct 2011, 06:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED crap? |
Records give you that awesome bass that cds and mp3s cant reproduce well. I have yet to hear a CD that comes close to a clean pressing of many albums that have bass in them. If I spelled that right. I was talking to a musician once and he had me listen to one of his albums and one of his Cds and sure enough there was a pretty big difference. |
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| Author: | vinylcollector [ 13 Oct 2011, 01:41 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED in question? |
I used to have a SJT-200 which I sold s few years back, but I still have a SJT-300 stereo model with the hi-speed scan. I was using it fine, until one day I turned it on and it had picture but no sound, so something went on it. Probably would still be good for a parts player though. So when my player went I sold most of my discs. The thing with the CED was because it used a needle stylus, I found it gave a warm sound like vinyl records do. |
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| Author: | mikeystoyz [ 13 Oct 2011, 03:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED in question? |
Now that makes sense. I can see that, though the formaty is still crazy, lol. |
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| Author: | vinylcollector [ 13 Oct 2011, 04:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED in question? |
mikeystoyz wrote: Now that makes sense. I can see that, though the formaty is still crazy, lol. Also I remember the advertisments, and another big selling feature was for kids usage. Because the disc is in a protective plastic caddy (extracted by the player) a 5yr old could load and play without physically touching the actual disc, and the caddy protected the disc incase it actually got dropped. |
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| Author: | firehorse_44 [ 13 Oct 2011, 10:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED in question? |
I hope your right yazorin! There is something to that tangilbe feeling of holding video media in your hands.... We will just have to wait and see.... |
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| Author: | publius [ 13 Oct 2011, 14:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED in question? |
vinylcollector wrote: The thing with the CED was because it used a needle stylus, I found it gave a warm sound like vinyl records do. While the pressing process is broadly similar to that used for LPs, & the stylus tracks in the groove the same way, there's very little other resemblance. The stylus does not vibrate : instead, it rides over the top of the groove, and an electrode at one end reads the variations in the track depth as they pass by. These variations are not continuous, but are patterns of two levels, "high" and "low", encoding frequency-modulated audio and video information. So, the audio is encoded & played back basically the same way as LD analog audio. Any similarity to LP audio is caused by either the mastering process, the playback equipment, or your mind. |
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| Author: | cessnaace [ 27 Oct 2011, 03:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED in question? |
yazorin wrote: i just have to ask all the CED fans(if any) was there really anything good about this format? i mean, from what ive read, everytime u played a disc it wore away at the disc AND the player, and most of the discs were in mono lol Quite a few titles had cover designs never used with any other format. For example The Thing From Another World, and most Disney titles. STAY AWESOME! 
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| Author: | cessnaace [ 27 Oct 2011, 03:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED crap? |
admin wrote: yazorin wrote: and just how the hell do u get a video signal out of a bunch of grooves? I've never seen one in my life,  Julien I'm getting back into the format. I have quite a few discs coming. Back in the day I had two players - an Hitachi and an RCA, both of which had Stereo sound. Stereo discs usually came in blue caddies. STAY AWESOME!
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| Author: | rixrex [ 27 Oct 2011, 06:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED in question? |
Since you're getting back into the format, join some of us over at the CEDmagic forums too... http://www.cedmagic.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1 I collect mostly LDs, but also have a good selection of CEDs as well. I like both formats as companions not competing. There's quite a few CED titles that were not released on LD also, or are rare on LD but not so rare on CED. I hope you have yourself a good player ready to go, I would love to have a Hitachi stereo model now. |
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| Author: | cessnaace [ 28 Oct 2011, 00:40 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED in question? |
rixrex wrote: Since you're getting back into the format, join some of us over at the CEDmagic forums too... http://www.cedmagic.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1 I collect mostly LDs, but also have a good selection of CEDs as well. I like both formats as companions not competing. There's quite a few CED titles that were not released on LD also, or are rare on LD but not so rare on CED. I hope you have yourself a good player ready to go, I would love to have a Hitachi stereo model now. I've never understood the way Laserphiles have tended to attack the CED format the way that they traditionally have done. Defect rates were much lower with CED discs, and while they can be damaged even in their caddies (stacking them can crush the grooves) LDs can be damaged as well. The amazing thing is that only one company (RCA) made the discs, and yet they managed to release over 1,700 titles in just 5 years. I no longer have a player, but I'm working on that, plus at least one VHD player. STAY AWESOME!
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| Author: | mikeystoyz [ 28 Oct 2011, 03:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED in question? |
I could get my copy of return of the king and watch it
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| Author: | cessnaace [ 28 Oct 2011, 03:38 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED in question? |
mikeystoyz wrote: I could get my copy of return of the king and watch it A rare title. STAY AWESOME!
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| Author: | mikeystoyz [ 28 Oct 2011, 04:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED in question? |
Yes, I know, I actually thought I had it once and it turned out to be the soundtrack. I laughed, I cried, I said, guess I dont need a CED player now, lol. |
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| Author: | beetlescott [ 28 Oct 2011, 05:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED crap? |
yazorin wrote: firehorse_44 wrote: A throwaway out of sight media.... Sounds sadly familiar. Makes me wonder............ When and if streaming becomes the norm with the masses,will any kind of fomat even be a viable alternative in that future? Oh, and cow pies make great frisbees also,but they break up after a few good tosses.....LOL !!!! nah man, look how records have come back, within a few years of i pods being the norm, suddenly people felt the need to get something tangible again and now turn tables are being made again and all the old 70's albums are being repressed. there will always be people who will want to hold their movies and music in their hands Yes, I agree, I'm one of those people! I had such a good time back when I was a teenager collecting records, both 45s and lps, I had a really nice collection. When I read they were making records again, I flipped! They bring back such great memories. I found an old Monkees album in a Peddlers Mall 2 or 3 weeks ago. I was taken back to some great memories. I'm 55 now, and I still love finding a stack of records for sale! The only thing I like better, is to find CEDs!!!!! I have 7 players, 4 of them are stereo, the other three I use to preplay my movies. I have a player SJT300 stereo with remote, upstairs in my living room. I don't have one in my bedroom ..(yet) Not room for it, (yet). I do have a stacking shelf that is perfect for my players, and the other players are hooked up two monitors so I can preview movies that have been sitting in someones collection for 28 years, the protective solution they put on the discs to preserve them. After sitting that long, sometimes you have to play them a time or two. |
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| Author: | mikeystoyz [ 28 Oct 2011, 07:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED in question? |
I might be buying a player to see what all the fuss is about. I am going to start a new store and call it High Tech Antiques, lol. Seriously. My wife has been buying all this antique electronics and we have been doing well with them. Pretty amazing. She thought of the name. |
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| Author: | cessnaace [ 28 Oct 2011, 16:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED crap? |
Quote: I have 7 players, 4 of them are stereo, the other three I use to preplay my movies. I've heard that "preplay"ing CEDs will clean them and make viewing less of an excercise in frustartation (over skipping). Is this what you mean by preplay?" STAY AWESOME!
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| Author: | vinylcollector [ 28 Oct 2011, 22:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED in question? |
The CED discs themselves when manufactured were sprayed with a light coating of silicone, which also helped the needle for less wear. So because of the age, the silicone gets a little thick (or crusty) so playing it through cuts a fresh track like cleaning it. |
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| Author: | cessnaace [ 29 Oct 2011, 00:59 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED in question? |
vinylcollector wrote: The CED discs themselves when manufactured were sprayed with a light coating of silicone, which also helped the needle for less wear. So because of the age, the silicone gets a little thick (or crusty) so playing it through cuts a fresh track like cleaning it. That makes sense. Thanks.  STAY AWESOME!
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| Author: | rixrex [ 29 Oct 2011, 05:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED in question? |
Well, the silicone coating can actually "smooth over" as does any liquid or semi-liquid material on a rough (grooved) surface where it seeks to level itself out. It never really dries out or hardens, because to do something like that would mean a temp so high the disc & caddy would warp or melt. But this reconditioning play is not harmful to the disc or stylus. The best descriptions on CED hardware/software questions are here: http://www.cedmagic.com/home/cedfaq.html Look under FAQ = Why do some of my CED's skip, and what can I do to correct this? All this is well written information from Tom Howe, the creator of CEDmagic. |
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| Author: | cessnaace [ 30 Oct 2011, 06:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CED in question? |
rixrex wrote: Well, the silicone coating can actually "smooth over" as does any liquid or semi-liquid material on a rough (grooved) surface where it seeks to level itself out. It never really dries out or hardens, because to do something like that would mean a temp so high the disc & caddy would warp or melt. But this reconditioning play is not harmful to the disc or stylus. The best descriptions on CED hardware/software questions are here: http://www.cedmagic.com/home/cedfaq.html Look under FAQ = Why do some of my CED's skip, and what can I do to correct this? All this is well written information from Tom Howe, the creator of CEDmagic. I've been a fan of CEDMagic for years. I have recently joined the forums there. STAY AWESOME!
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