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laserdisc_fan
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Post subject: Re: convince me into ced Posted: 01 Feb 2014, 12:53 |
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There are some music titles that are available on CED but not laserdisc: The copy of Go Go's shown is still sealed. In addition who wouldn't want to collect the classic Beatles film - Let it Be on the world's most obscure format - CED:
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laserdisc_fan
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Post subject: Re: convince me into ced Posted: 01 Feb 2014, 21:13 |
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signofzeta wrote: As someone who owns 100s of CEDs I cannot recommend this format. So why did you gather them then?
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rixrex
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Post subject: Re: convince me into ced Posted: 04 Feb 2014, 23:12 |
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CEDs are not for you if you don't have an interest in obsolete formats and cannot take P&S, and picture quality that is comparable to Betamax. They are also not for you if you have little or no experience with electronics maintenance and/or repairs. You should have at least an inate ability to understand mechanical systems, because that's what it will take to keep your players operating.
If you've had bad experience with CEDs due to getting a broken player you cannot repair, not being able to fix something, or another issue, then stay away from the format. If you got a neg on ebay, that's more a result of the idiot buyer than the format.
I used to tell LD collectors that CED was a good format in which to have an interest, but no longer. LD collecting doesn't take quite the same expertise as what's needed with CED collecting, and there's more titles and more players available, and more ways to get them repaired, and so on.
If you can handle the format and are an LD collector, I would suggest getting it only for the large number of titles not available on LD, including many popular motion pictures. CEDs were considered a format for lower income buyers as both the players and discs could be produced and purchased for much less than VHS, Beta or LD formats.
I have both extensive LD Collections (5,000 plus) and CED collections (over 1,000), and have no issues with CEDs as I am both aware of their limitations and maintenance needs. I have my CED players in top condition, and connected to our modern HD sets in such a way that the picture quality is exceptional for the format. That's what it takes to collect and watch CEDs in order to enjoy the format.
The SJT and SKT 400 players are probably the best CED players manufactured, and will give one the best picture and sound, but are really not significantly better than either the 200 or 300 series of that same SJT/SKT model. The Toshiba/Wards models are the sturdiest in my opinion, and the most attractive.
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rixrex
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Post subject: Re: convince me into ced Posted: 07 Feb 2014, 17:03 |
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Well, when compared to early LD players and discs, the image quality was not significantly better on LDs, but very similar to CEDs. An early comparison from 1981 in Popular Science gave the CED a favorable review when compared to the early generation LD players that had about 300 lines of resolution. Of course it also correctly stated that LD had a realm of possibilities for the future, as we all know came true.
For that matter, so did CEDs except for the fact that they were a bust commercially. If RCA had not hesitated so many times, and had been able to keep with the original timeline and debut the CED on 1975, it would have been a different story. Of course they'd still have become obsolete, but would have had a measure of success not realized with the 1981 debut. But then, what if pigs could fly?
Another reason for collecting is the fact that it was the last major TV electronics device wholly developed and produced in the USA, and the Japanese players that came later were "subservient" units, though I personally think the Toshiba models were better made than the RCA models.
And yet another reason would be that CED is pretty much the pinnacle of the Edison phonograph process that uses a stylus riding upon a disc to ultimately produce 5.1 sound and a picture as well, all without the collector touching the disc. You can argue that VHD is the pinnacle, but then VHD is really an improvement upon the existing CED format using the same general ideas and processes, so it's basically a very similar system that piggybacked onto the RCA technology.
Japan - Observe current technology, and make improvements to it using highly skilled engineers and technicians.
China - "Borrow" technology and duplicate it with low-paid labor, sell it cheaply, pollute the environment and help create trade imbalance so that the income can be used to buy up America.
America - A few skilled engineers and technicians create great technological advancements, while everyone else gets a job, so they can become a consumer of As Seen On TV Chinese goods, buy a tract home, watch TV and sports, eat too much at the buffet, while the big banks and government march us towards Orwell's 1984, albeit 30 years past his prediction.
Yes, it's a simplistic viewpoint, but not incorrect.
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