It is currently 19 Apr 2024, 05:56




 Page 2 of 2 [ 35 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: I'm a proud owner of a new VHD Player
PostPosted: 26 Jan 2013, 19:44 
Jedi Candidate
Jedi Candidate
User avatar

Joined: 29 Jan 2006, 20:05
Posts: 2266
Location: United Kingdom
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 23 times
rein-o wrote:
i believe it's the disc inside of a plastic caddy like CED but then it has the cardboard sleeve to give more info of the film.


Yes that's the case and they often come with paper inserts and sometimes sticker OBIs like LDs as well.
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: I'm a proud owner of a new VHD Player
PostPosted: 28 Jan 2013, 17:00 
True fan
True fan
User avatar

Joined: 06 Dec 2009, 23:56
Posts: 451
Location: United States
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 6 times
tsak wrote:
Before this week I've never even HEARD of a VHD player. I'm still not clear on what one is. I skimmed the Wikipedia article on it. They are smaller (<10") than LDs and CEDs, come in a caddy like CEDs, but only lasted from around 1978-1986, drastically less than LDs but I suppose longer than CEDs.
What titles are on VHDs that make them worthy of owning? are there any movies on them that are not on any other media format? are they better than LDs? I'm very curious now.
I have a friend that has a CED player. I have one CED because I collect media, but I have no desire for a player. They are notorious for not lasting, and a working one today is extremely rare, and the CEDs wear-out due to use.
I plan to buy a VHD disc now, because I don't have one and I have to have one of every media that exists. How cheap can i find one, no preference of titles.


First of all your time-frame is alittle off. The format launched in 1983, and I've found several titles released in 1987 and 1988. At the rate new titles are being found I can see the VHD catalog easily hitting 2,000 titles. Victor gave the format a very diverse catalog, plus you need to consider the 3-D mode. Also, while VHDs are smaller than LaserDiscs and CEDS they have the same 60 minute per side capacity, and in CAV!!! There were a number of interactive anime games released, which were popular. This was made possible due to the format's fast (seek; search) time and the fact that each disc could be encoded with up to 99 chapter markers! There are also discs in the AHD variation - up to 4 channels of DIGITAL audio.

I don't recall the title, but I found a 3 part OVA Anime series that was released exclusively on VHD!

STAY AWESOME! :)

RecoBanchou
http://www.urabanchou.com/
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: I'm a proud owner of a new VHD Player
PostPosted: 28 Jan 2013, 18:25 
Jedi Master
Jedi Master
User avatar

Joined: 03 May 2004, 19:05
Posts: 8105
Location: Dullaware
Has thanked: 1219 times
Been thanked: 844 times
yes, some of the anime was only on VHD, i saw snoppers, scoopers or something like that.
about news paper reporter and her robot.
very cool looking and had 3D images but they never made it on LD, i think VHS but i can't find a copy other than
the VHD.
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: I'm a proud owner of a new VHD Player
PostPosted: 28 Jan 2013, 19:01 
True fan
True fan
User avatar

Joined: 06 Dec 2009, 23:56
Posts: 451
Location: United States
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 6 times
rein-o wrote:
yes, some of the anime was only on VHD, i saw snoppers, scoopers or something like that.
about news paper reporter and her robot.
very cool looking and had 3D images but they never made it on LD, i think VHS but i can't find a copy other than
the VHD.


That wasn't one of the VHD exclusives that I found, so there were several it seems.

I just received from RecoBanchou an order of 3 more VHDs. They all play perfectly. The one that I just finsihed watching was "Coming Soon," a collection of scenes and trailers 'from 50 of Universal's greatest horror films' hosted by a very young looking Jamie Lee Curtis and Directed by John Landis. I had to laugh because the very first trailer was for "King Kong vs. Godzilla." The original "King Kong" made by RKO Radio Pictures and "Godzilla" by Toho, although I believe Universal did have something to do with "King Kong vs. Godzilla." There have been 28 Toho produced Godzilla movies, but there is another rumoured American remake in the works.

By-the-way, chapter 41 is a behind the scenes look at Spielberg filming "E.T."

STAY AWESOME! :)
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: I'm a proud owner of a new VHD Player
PostPosted: 30 Jan 2013, 04:01 
Serious fan
Serious fan
User avatar

Joined: 03 Sep 2012, 13:37
Posts: 203
Location: United States
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time
oh, I'm interested, I just never heard of this format before coming here.
How much does a player cost, on average? LD players are VERY cheap these days.
CED players are ridiculously overpriced, imo, because they just don't last as long(needle is normally worn-out or needs to be replaced on the ones I find on eBay).
_________________
http://www.lddb.com/collection.php?acti ... &user=tsak
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: I'm a proud owner of a new VHD Player
PostPosted: 30 Jan 2013, 05:48 
Jedi Master
Jedi Master
User avatar

Joined: 03 May 2004, 19:05
Posts: 8105
Location: Dullaware
Has thanked: 1219 times
Been thanked: 844 times
tsak wrote:
oh, I'm interested, I just never heard of this format before coming here.
How much does a player cost, on average? LD players are VERY cheap these days.
CED players are ridiculously overpriced, imo, because they just don't last as long(needle is normally worn-out or needs to be replaced on the ones I find on eBay).

i picked up a CED for 20 bucks and about 30 bucks with shipping and parts to get it working.
so around 50 or 55 is all i had into it, but it wasn't a top of the line player.

if you are handy you can get one cheap on ebay and fix it up.
problem with VHD is that it's comming from Japan and that will hit you hard, shipping on that might run around 100 or more, i'm guessing.

i always wanted one but never got around to it, spent all that money on more LDs rather than another format.

i saw scoopers on ebay for around 50 bucks, it was from Japan and i can't remember who had it.
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: I'm a proud owner of a new VHD Player
PostPosted: 30 Jan 2013, 12:27 
Serious fan
Serious fan
User avatar

Joined: 03 Sep 2012, 13:37
Posts: 203
Location: United States
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time
hmmm, true that, I'd rather spend that money on one of those $100 lots on eBay.
So, how many LDs would I need to buy to have them all?
_________________
http://www.lddb.com/collection.php?acti ... &user=tsak
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: I'm a proud owner of a new VHD Player
PostPosted: 30 Jan 2013, 13:53 
Jedi Candidate
Jedi Candidate
User avatar

Joined: 29 Jan 2006, 20:05
Posts: 2266
Location: United Kingdom
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 23 times
tsak wrote:
So, how many LDs would I need to buy to have them all?


Well if you buy about 52,464 laserdiscs you will have all the ones listed on LDDB database as of 30/01/2013 however that keeps going up almost daily. There are plenty of other titles still to add - easily many thousands. I know this because I am forever spotting new Japanese releases not listed or promotional music LDs.
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: I'm a proud owner of a new VHD Player
PostPosted: 30 Jan 2013, 16:12 
True fan
True fan
User avatar

Joined: 06 Dec 2009, 23:56
Posts: 451
Location: United States
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 6 times
tsak wrote:
oh, I'm interested, I just never heard of this format before coming here.
How much does a player cost, on average? LD players are VERY cheap these days.
CED players are ridiculously overpriced, imo, because they just don't last as long(needle is normally worn-out or needs to be replaced on the ones I find on eBay).


I paid about $800, but keep in mind that it was being shipped from Japan. It was throughly tested before it was shipped. It also came with 4 like-new VHD discs plus the 3-D Scope Headgear mint in box.

STAY AWESOME! :)
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: I'm a proud owner of a new VHD Player
PostPosted: 30 Jan 2013, 17:57 
Jedi Master
Jedi Master
User avatar

Joined: 03 May 2004, 19:05
Posts: 8105
Location: Dullaware
Has thanked: 1219 times
Been thanked: 844 times
that's not bad with the head gear and shipping from Japan.
and it's a fun unit with 3D
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: I'm a proud owner of a new VHD Player
PostPosted: 30 Jan 2013, 19:25 
True fan
True fan
User avatar

Joined: 06 Dec 2009, 23:56
Posts: 451
Location: United States
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 6 times
rein-o wrote:
that's not bad with the head gear and shipping from Japan.
and it's a fun unit with 3D


I have yet to regret buying it. :)

STAY AWESOME! :)
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: I'm a proud owner of a new VHD Player
PostPosted: 31 Jan 2013, 01:25 
Serious fan
Serious fan
User avatar

Joined: 03 Sep 2012, 13:37
Posts: 203
Location: United States
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time
laserdisc_fan wrote:
tsak wrote:
So, how many LDs would I need to buy to have them all?


Well if you buy about 52,464 laserdiscs you will have all the ones listed on LDDB database as of 30/01/2013 however that keeps going up almost daily. There are plenty of other titles still to add - easily many thousands. I know this because I am forever spotting new Japanese releases not listed or promotional music LDs.

At $1 each, that would cost less than a house...BANZAI!!!
_________________
http://www.lddb.com/collection.php?acti ... &user=tsak
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: I'm a proud owner of a new VHD Player
PostPosted: 02 Feb 2013, 02:21 
Absolute fan
Absolute fan
User avatar

Joined: 22 Jun 2010, 21:12
Posts: 1616
Location: Plattsburg, Missouri. USA
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 11 times
cessnaace wrote:
rein-o wrote:
yes, some of the anime was only on VHD, i saw snoppers, scoopers or something like that.
about news paper reporter and her robot.
very cool looking and had 3D images but they never made it on LD, i think VHS but i can't find a copy other than
the VHD.


That wasn't one of the VHD exclusives that I found, so there were several it seems.

I just received from RecoBanchou an order of 3 more VHDs. They all play perfectly. The one that I just finsihed watching was "Coming Soon," a collection of scenes and trailers 'from 50 of Universal's greatest horror films' hosted by a very young looking Jamie Lee Curtis and Directed by John Landis. I had to laugh because the very first trailer was for "King Kong vs. Godzilla." The original "King Kong" made by RKO Radio Pictures and "Godzilla" by Toho, although I believe Universal did have something to do with "King Kong vs. Godzilla." There have been 28 Toho produced Godzilla movies, but there is another rumoured American remake in the works.

By-the-way, chapter 41 is a behind the scenes look at Spielberg filming "E.T."

STAY AWESOME! :)


Coming Soon was produced by MCA specifically for direct to LaserDisc release, and MCA even announced that, due to consumer letters, the release would be in CAV with CX NR (the standard at the time was CLV for basically everything and no noise reduction). The program was released in Japan on LaserDisc and VHD and here in the USA on VHS and Beta, but for some reason, the US LaserDisc release - again, which it had been specifically made for - never happened and it was never heard from again. Strange, and a shame because it's such a fun watch.

I love my VHD player and discs, especially the 3D titles - field sequential 3D works wonderfully. I even have a field sequential 3D camcorder and thus have many, many home movies in 3D - along with 3D videos of trains when we'd go train watching. I always framed the, so the train would appear to be about to come out of the screen, or with the crossing gate down and in"front" so it appeared you were standing right there against the gate as the train passed. As a result, I have lots of what we call 3D "RailPorn" - now I have to figure out a way to watch 3D field sequential NTSC on progressive scan sets, which it doesn't work with... And I don't think modern 3D sets will work with the old NTSC 3D standard.
_________________
Visit my site LaserVision Landmarks http://www.LaserVisionLandmarks.com
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: I'm a proud owner of a new VHD Player
PostPosted: 06 Mar 2013, 05:53 
Confirmed Padawan
Confirmed Padawan
User avatar

Joined: 10 Oct 2006, 17:10
Posts: 3742
Location: United Kingdom
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 4 times
WOW looking at the video of BACK TO THE FUTURE looked clear on that tv, I was expecting a bad image and looked great to me.

I noticed in the video it appears he had a step-down transformer next to VHD National player?

Browsing though the database are all VHD discs panned and scanned?
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: I'm a proud owner of a new VHD Player
PostPosted: 06 Mar 2013, 20:21 
Absolute fan
Absolute fan
User avatar

Joined: 22 Jun 2010, 21:12
Posts: 1616
Location: Plattsburg, Missouri. USA
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 11 times
laserbite34 wrote:
WOW looking at the video of BACK TO THE FUTURE looked clear on that tv, I was expecting a bad image and looked great to me.

I noticed in the video it appears he had a step-down transformer next to VHD National player?

Browsing though the database are all VHD discs panned and scanned?


VHD's video specs are 240-250 lines of horizontal luma resolution and 30 lines of chroma resolution, and since the disc rotates in a CAV mode at 900 RPM, there is never any crosstalk. Similar to RCA's CED VideoDisc format, the JVC disc didn't have the bandwidth to carry a full, unalterd NTSC signal, as LaserDisc did, so VHD used the so-called 'buried subcarrier' to dot-interlace the color signal within a pre-filtered midrange band of luminance information, centered at 2.56 MHz. The chroma was also filtered in a complimentary manner so the two signals would dot-interlace together without excessive interference. I'm not sure why, but VHD's picture (and sound) was much 'quieter' visually and audibly, than CED, with many fewer dropouts and without the numerous 'tearing' video dropouts that CED discs could be plagued with or the tick/pops and high frequency audible sizzle that CED could have. Unlike CED, VHD didn't skip on a regular basis either and a disc had to be badly damaged before any skipping would occur. Also unlike CED, the flat diamond VHD stylus with 10x lower pressure than the CED stylus and the flat, grooveless VHD disc design, meant that freeze frames, chapter and frame searches and high-speed scanning didn't cause any measurable wear on the disc or stylus.

VHD did have one major defect that I've encountered on both the earliest discs and also the latst discs - I guess it's the VHD equivalent of Laser Rot - some VHD discs, which look otherwise okay from the outside, and even if just opened, will simply refuse to play at all - the most you'll get is a weird squiggling pattern on the screen along with audio noise. Other collectors have noted this and so VHD collectors have to make sure that all discs have actually been played before buying them, since if the disc won't play, there is nothing that can be done. Good discs don't seem to go bad either, thankfully - although some have claimed that subjecting VHD discs to freezing temps will cause them to become unplayable, which is something that doesn't affect CED.

There ARE many letterbox widescreen titles on VHD - I have the 3D versions of Jaws 3D, Friday The 13th Pt-3D, Space Hunter 3D and Metalstorm 3D (and all were 2D compatible with all VHD players due to the way VHD encoded and played back the 3D information) as well as numerous non-3D letterbox VHD's, such as the Godzilla/Toho Monster Films, Die Hard and many others. While VHD was actively being pressed, which was up until 1992 or so, titles released in widescreen on LaserDisc were also released in widescreen on VHD. VHD also has an excellent music video catalog with artists on the Victor label getting VHD releases and not LaserDisc.

JVC also created some amazing games for the VHD system that used the VHDpc computer port present on every VHD player to interface with an MSX standard home PC (Microsoft"s MSX standard took off in Japan and also did pretty well in the U.K., while barely making a blip in the US) The special Kick Pulse instruction used to move the stylus along the tracks could be used to descramble highly interlaced disc tracks, and the fact that 2 full frames were stored per revolution of the disc meant that near instant access could occur for VHD based racing games and such - YouTube has some great demo's of the gaming potential of VHD.

VHD players are 100v,50/60 Hz and so require power transformers for the US or UK to operate properly. Thorn released a PAL format VHD player in England along with both industrial titles and consumer oriented programming, but I don't know how long the format was on the market.

One unique aspect of VHD is all players could play PAL and NTSC discs - JVC wanted VHD to be a world compatible format, so all players could play any disc.
_________________
Visit my site LaserVision Landmarks http://www.LaserVisionLandmarks.com
Offline
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
 Page 2 of 2 [ 35 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: