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 Post subject: Re: Ultimate VHS player?
PostPosted: 22 Feb 2014, 19:11 
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I can make a color copy of it for you, on tape or DVD if you want, but you have to send the tape to Holland than....


That is very kind of you. Thank you.

But I am planning on buying a VHS/DVD Recorder combo someday soon as those
normally play SECAM tapes. But thanks once again.
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PostPosted: 22 Feb 2014, 19:24 
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I'm afraid they will never play Secam tapes.... But you never know!
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PostPosted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:18 
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Actually one Pioneer model does as far as I know.

How good are DVHS recorders from the States when it
comes to VHS playback ? I assume they dont play PAL

I am looking for a DVHS model that plays D-Theater
with dts sound. But I would also like to know how well
they perform on VHS.
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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2014, 01:44 
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the VHS tapes can range from pretty good to horrible but I think that is either the way its made or how it was kept. DVHS tapes on the hand are above good :D
Since it was released in the US I doubt any play PAL. I know my JVC doesn't because somehow my mother had a copy of a Judi Dench movie (Macbeath ?) which was PAL how she got it is a great mystery to me at least.
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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2014, 01:52 
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There are PAL DVHS recorders, but NO PAL D-Theater
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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2014, 17:12 
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confederate wrote:
I own the last S-VHS recorder manufactured by Panasonic for the European market.

http://www.amazon.de/Panasonic-NV-SV-12 ... B0002JZ8A6


This looks very modern, when was it released?
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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2014, 20:19 
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There are PAL DVHS recorders, but NO PAL D-Theater


were those sold in the US?
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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2014, 21:23 
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PAL DVHS? I think not... only in Europe (here we didn't have NTSC DVHS )
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I live in a PAL region, but we get everything from everywhere. I never remember having to deal with this NTSC and PAL stuff. Whatever tape I find bought just pop-it in and it works. The only thing I remember about black and white was when I got a PAL/Japanese SNES and when I hooked it up to my TV I got black and white picture. Not sure what I did wrong, but i was so excited that I had a SNES I didn't care. IIRC there was always a button to switch between NTSC and PAL in TVs and VCRs.
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I need one of these, and possibly my head examined. Ouch, the price!!! :o

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http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-MULTI-S ... B0002K6XRM

I want one though. And a Betamax equivalent. 8-)

STAY AWESOME! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Ultimate VHS player?
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The "Ultimate" VHS player sadly does not exist. I have a total of FIVE VHS machines hooked up right now in order to be able to play every tape I want.

The ULTIMATE machine would have:
BOTH Hi-Fi AND linear stereo with Dolby noise reduction- 99% of Hi-Fi VCRs out there only play the linear tracks in mono. There are many music tapes released prior to 1984 and thus have no Hi-Fi tracks on them, so most people today have only heard them in mono. (I have a Panasonic professional-model machine that plays both tracks in stereo, but it only functions in SP speed. My consumer machine that had these audio capabilities broke, so I'm currently forced to have one Hi-Fi and one linear-stereo-only machine in order to play tapes recorded in the slower speeds.)
Full multi-system compatibility- NTSC, PAL, SECAM, etc (I have one multi-standard VCR, though it does not have linear stereo.)
Full D-VHS and D-Theater playback, as well as S-VHS and W-VHS (though I have never seen a W-VHS tape in person.)

There's a bunch of other 'fantasy' options I'd like to have as well, but just these would get me to buy another machine to replace the 5 I have now!
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PostPosted: 17 Aug 2014, 08:20 
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I've been doing some reading elsewhere - a lot of the pro decks (JVC, AG-1980) are very complicated and hard to keep in a state of good repair. The 1980 in particular has massive capacitor issues. Think Sony MDP-605 in LD-land, but with less goop wrecking the board, hopefully!

Which is too bad, since those pro decks are great at getting every last bit out of tapes. (But decks aren't good on all tapes, so to get the most out of all tapes, you needed more than one working high-end deck... which is very hard to have these days...)

The consensus over on videohelp, iirc, was to use mid-90's era consumer Panasonics, which aren't as good but a lot more reliable.

I found a Samsung version of that Panasonic multi-standard at a local thrift long ago, wonder if I can coerce it into working...
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PostPosted: 17 Aug 2014, 11:22 
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I found a Samsung version of that Panasonic multi-standard at a local thrift long ago, wonder if I can coerce it into working...


same as this?
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Nope, the one I found looks very close to the Panasonic (flip-out panel and all) with a Samsung badge on it.
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 Post subject: Re: Ultimate VHS player?
PostPosted: 29 Aug 2014, 03:06 
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There isn't one IMO. Do you want the highest quality or better compatibility?

What do you want to playback? If its just playing back content recorded in standard mode I suggest a professional VHS or SVHS deck player only decks. The dont usually have wireless remotes, but better ones have automatic and manual tracking, which i find very important.

Multiple speed playback and record? Go with Panasonic Pro line decks. AG1970 / 1980.
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PostPosted: 30 Aug 2014, 19:14 
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Agree with tkmedia...the "ultimate" vhs player is just like the ultimate Laserdisc player i mean a fully digital postprocessing machine of the original analog signal, so just get a good 4 Head from Panasonic or a entry level S-vhs from Panny and you are done in the best possible way
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PostPosted: 30 Aug 2014, 23:27 
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Nobody wants to record to VHS, anymore, it's a flawed medium to todays options. The only considerations in a VHS player is quality, quality and quality playback, preferable to capture into digital. Some folks may want a VHS player for viewing, but I would suspect that number is getting smaller by the day, and those folks are already out of the market having bought the player they desire. It's strictly an archival tool for the serious hobbyist. With that in mind, forget the remotes etc., I find the AG1980, one of the best. The detail it brings out is the best I've seen of any VHS machine. If your going to just have one machine for archival purposes, this is the one to have. For PAL, it's brother, is the other mother to have.

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PostPosted: 31 Aug 2014, 01:42 
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elviscaprice wrote:
Nobody wants to record to VHS, anymore...


excepting for weirdos such as myself, whom enjoy procuring top-flight NOS vintage blank stock,
and using MACROVISION-less high resolution SD source material such as Anime DVDs
to squeeze every last drop of performance out of the format i grew up with,
just to see just how good it can really get, usually with surprisingly pleasant results
( for such a limited format ) such as this;


(( 1985 MAXELL VHS blank (HGX GOLD HI-FI) both REC.ed and PBed on a 1988 S-VHS VCR (JVC HR-S8000U) ))


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- now you might contend that i am cheating, not using a CRT monitor for those examples,
but i disagree. i've found that at least more recent HD monitors, -at least LCD, and probably PLASMA even more so-
seem to tend to "tell the truth" with SD sources like no CRT i have ever known seems remotely capable of.

my own 46in. LCD, -a low-mid grade WORST BUY "INSIGNIA" house brand model, with 3-D comb filtering-
seems to lay it all right out on the table, -the good and the bad- with every SD source i have, crisp, clear, precise and absolutely non-partisan.

i actually appreciate that; it shows me just how good -or bad- what i am viewing actually is,
no matter the format. through an HDM, Laserdisc can be noisy even at best,
but it can also be surprisingly good for it's age, and even by today's standards can impress,
providing the viewer is able to accept the format's handicaps and enjoy it with perspective in mind
to the age it was designed in, and that era's limitations.

no, none of these old legacy SD formats can remotely touch high-quality HD sources,
but at their best, they are surprisingly good performers for all that, and deserve due respect...
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PostPosted: 31 Aug 2014, 02:02 
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That's one person. You could do better by remaining in the digital medium. Just requires a different approach, but hats off to you for finding a unique approach with a dead analog format.
Nice shots by the way!!

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For standard playback I use a Panasonic Proline AG-DS840 SVHS feeder deck works well for most of my needs. A 1970 for other speed tapes.
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