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Author:  kris [ 08 Apr 2015, 18:04 ]
Post subject:  Working hddvd's?
I realize they are getting more rare these days .... :shh: :lol:

We all know about the "Warner problem" :shh:
My Warner Kubrick discs are having trouble these days... freezing starts to occur. even on the mighty HD-XA1
Curiously, I am Legend is working like no other hddvd around. Its a Warner you know :!: One of the best sound and picture discs I own :thumbup:
Other Warner discs went in the trash. I hate owning a disc that doesn't work anyway.

Do any of you people have problems with other discs? I'm aware of another dreaded hddvd combo problem :shh:

Other troublediscs around besides the known ones mentioned above? other companies with troubled discs?

I watch my movies on a fairly regular basis so I have a pretty good idea of what works and what won't (some day)

Hope to read what you guys experience with hddvd's...
Author:  dumbchemist [ 09 Apr 2015, 14:17 ]
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I have a total of 32 HD-DVD's. 29 of them play with no trouble which leaves 3 that do not. 2 of the 3 are Warner discs: Prince's Purple Rain and 300. The 300 disc is a DVD/HD-DVD combo with the DVD side playable and the HD-DVD side unplayable. Disc 3 is Santana, Hymns for Peace, Live at Montreux which does not play. The Santana disc is not recognized by the player at all. With 3 bad out of 32, there is about a 10% failure rate.

My player is a Toshiba, model HD-A3 running 4.0 firmware.
Author:  admin [ 10 Apr 2015, 02:57 ]
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I had a very bad test run:


That's a 66% bad-disc ratio so far for Warner, and I would avoid COMBO releases like plague.
Most of the others are still sealed and probably dead inside.

But then even some brand new discs wouldn't play : Choristes, Les (2006) [2734685] (French) had bubbles in the glue preventing the disc to boot.
Shop never agreed for a refund/replacement, publishers remained mute. Absolutely abysmal quality control and customer service.

Did they want the HD DVD to die anyway? Better money from SONY?

Julien
Author:  laserdisc_fan [ 10 Apr 2015, 09:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: Working hddvd's?
kris wrote:
I realize they are getting more rare these days .... :shh: :lol:

We all know about the "Warner problem" :shh:
My Warner Kubrick discs are having trouble these days... freezing starts to occur. even on the mighty HD-XA1


I think you were lucky in that some of your titles were just slow rotters. :lol:
I never invested a dime in the format - total garbage by the sound of it - easily the worst format EVER released since there were so few titles and such bad quality.

Doesn't everyone know companies don't test products properly (either hardware or software) before they are released to market. That way they can make more money from you by charging you for a software fix and or hardware replacement!
Author:  nissling [ 10 Apr 2015, 09:35 ]
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laserdisc_fan wrote:
easily the worst format EVER released since there were so few titles and such bad quality.

In terms of sale, HD-DVD was a failure and like you say it didn't get many titles (due to obvious reasons), but technically speaking it's an excellent format. Audio and video performance is superb by all means. I don't see any real point in starting with the format by now, unless you want Apollo 13 and The Thing with their best presentation, but if you got into the format right when it died you could really get a lot of value for the money.
Author:  kris [ 10 Apr 2015, 13:36 ]
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laserdisc_fan wrote:
kris wrote:
I realize they are getting more rare these days .... :shh: :lol:

We all know about the "Warner problem" :shh:
My Warner Kubrick discs are having trouble these days... freezing starts to occur. even on the mighty HD-XA1


I think you were lucky in that some of your titles were just slow rotters. :lol:
I never invested a dime in the format - total garbage by the sound of it - easily the worst format EVER released since there were so few titles and such bad quality.

Doesn't everyone know companies don't test products properly (either hardware or software) before they are released to market. That way they can make more money from you by charging you for a software fix and or hardware replacement!



I've always been aware Warner could be trouble anyway sooner or later.
other titles are splendid to own. Picture quality is very good. With the right equipment HDDVD rivals Blu Ray :thumbup:
I never invested much money in the format. I got everything long after the format died. They are almost for free these days.
The Warner discs I got for free when purchasing collections. Never trusted those anyway. I was aware of that specific problem.
I hear blu ray is crapping out too from time to time.
In France they started a return on some BR titles that "rot" or become unplayable.
I guess resolution got higher but quality got worse :lol:
Author:  laserdisc_fan [ 10 Apr 2015, 14:14 ]
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kris wrote:
I hear blu ray is crapping out too from time to time.
In France they started a return on some BR titles that "rot" or become unplayable.
I guess resolution got higher but quality got worse :lol:


You should have been content with laserdisc!
At least most rotted LDs still play. :lol:
I know some of you guys couldn't wait to upgrade. It sometimes pays to sit back and let the dust settle first. :thumbup:
Author:  kris [ 10 Apr 2015, 20:16 ]
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Rotten movies belong in the trash :lol:
sadly...
Author:  nissling [ 10 Apr 2015, 21:09 ]
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Agreed with Kris, unless it's something rare/unique.
Author:  laserdisc_fan [ 11 Apr 2015, 00:51 ]
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nissling wrote:
Agreed with Kris, unless it's something rare/unique.


Which nearly every music title is!!!
Author:  nissling [ 11 Apr 2015, 06:12 ]
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Some yes (certainly not "nearly all"), but I collect feature films.
Author:  takou [ 11 Apr 2015, 13:19 ]
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laserdisc_fan wrote:
easily the worst format EVER


I don't agree.
HD-DVD was a great Idea, no zoning (region) system, fast boot (insert the disc, it plays, no need to wait 3 min to load a BR Menu).
Too bad it didn't won the war, and it's very sad that all of our HD-DVD are potentially dead, or will soon be.
Author:  nissling [ 11 Apr 2015, 13:27 ]
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That's true! The lack of crappy Java was a big pro about HD-DVD. The good old Universal menus were awesome and fast, unlike Blu-Ray today.
Also, there were an HD-DVD with 50gb storage so it could hold as much data as Blu-Ray, but it was never used.
Author:  Guest [ 05 May 2015, 11:32 ]
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I saw admins comments about the problems he has had with combo discs.
So thought I would test a few of mine out so far i have watched.
The departed worked perfect
Invasion worked perfect
TMNT worked perfect
Happy feet worked perfect
The brave one worked perfect
All these are Warner discs bought brand new when first released.I still believe a lot of problems are hardware/firmware related and not just the discs.
Also i think mishandling is a major factor if you ever watch any YouTube reviews be it laserdisc DVD or whatever the way people handle discs makes me cringe and i always think no wonder you're discs stopped working after x-amount of months you're treating them like a bloody Frisbee.
The discs I have watched lately have been on a combination of the Toshiba hd-xe1 and the LG-BH100 cheers.
Author:  integra [ 05 May 2015, 13:29 ]
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Problem is not the hardware... just the discs... Warner admits it.
Not all Warner discs are bad.... it depends of where they were pressed.
I have Warners that play perfect on 4 Toshiba's and an LG. All other "brand" discs are working fine. But a lot of Warner Discs don't work anymore... (I bought most of them new.... after a few years the didn't play anymore.)
I have got some replacements from Warner (same title on Bluray) because of this. They said the problem was common and it had to do with the production process.
Author:  Guest [ 05 May 2015, 13:53 ]
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integra wrote:
Problem is not the hardware... just the discs... Warner admits it.
Not all Warner discs are bad.... it depends of where they were pressed.
I have Warners that play perfect on 4 Toshiba's and an LG. All other "brand" discs are working fine. But a lot of Warner Discs don't work anymore... (I bought most of them new.... after a few years the didn't play anymore.)
I have got some replacements from Warner (same title on Bluray) because of this. They said the problem was common and it had to do with the production process.


It makes no sense though because i have two of the Toshiba hd-ep35 one works perfect yet the other glitches with a lot of discs and they are both on the same firmware so the hardware/firmware must be at fault somewhere along the line.
Also in the early days of the format a lot of universal and paramount disc's had glitches until the firmware was updated not just Warner disc's.
I have over 250 hd-dvds a lot of which are Warner disc's and don't believe i just got lucky
Author:  integra [ 05 May 2015, 14:27 ]
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Believe wat you want ;)

I never have troubles with other discs... all are working fine on my Toshiba's and LG... Only Warner discs are giving problems (not all of them!) Dutch and German productions work fina, Canadian and USA Warner discs are the ones that give problems... They were playing fine when new, but now they don't... Just tested one copy of Harry Potter... It wass still sealed! Halfway the movie, it freezes. On my Toshiba and LG.... Warner had the same problems with DVD's in 1997.... (along with other brands pressed in the same factory)
Author:  Guest [ 05 May 2015, 14:57 ]
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integra wrote:
Believe wat you want ;)

I never have troubles with other discs... all are working fine on my Toshiba's and LG... Only Warner discs are giving problems (not all of them!) Dutch and German productions work fina, Canadian and USA Warner discs are the ones that give problems... They were playing fine when new, but now they don't... Just tested one copy of Harry Potter... It wass still sealed! Halfway the movie, it freezes. On my Toshiba and LG.... Warner had the same problems with DVD's in 1997.... (along with other brands pressed in the same factory)


Not a case of believing what i want its fact when did you buy your players/discs
I bought all my hd-dvds during the format war not years later put one of your players back on its original firmware and i guarantee you will have problems with universal discs such as The hitcher and Smoking aces and paramount discs such norbit they all froze would not work on the early Toshiba and xbox-360 firmwares.
This idea that it is just Warner discs is complete crap.
Maybe i just look after my discs better than others :thumbup:
Author:  integra [ 05 May 2015, 18:17 ]
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I'm not saying all Warner discs are bad.... But all Warners from a specific factory.

And yes, My first player and discs were bought new in 2006!
My LG never got any updates and plays all (except for the specific Warners)
2 of my Toshiba's never got a new firmware.... same story as the LG.
2 Toshiba's have the newest firmware.... but, same story.

And don't go saying I'm not taking good care of my discs. It's a problem of the disc, not the player....
My discs are all clean, undamaged and I keep all my media in a special room... (explain to my why 25 copies of 1 title, pressed in the s****y factory, all have issues? Some of them I bought new! (and the did play at the time!) As I said .. just took one out of its seal and tried it... no luck...
But I said it earlyer, Believe what you want.... Warner admits the discs are faulty, the factory admits it...
Author:  bmich1 [ 05 May 2015, 18:20 ]
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I have over 250 HD DVD discs and 7 players and the only disc that stopped working is my 300 Combo. Maybe I'll come across another one.
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