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I watched my Blu Ray edition (an HD world first for this film) of Drive-In Massacre last night to make up for missing my horror film tradition on Halloween. Here's some drivel from my Letterboxd entry.

Might watch the TV version that is included on the same disc tonight to compare the two editions.

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After a long time sat on my shelf I finally got around to giving this short and not very sweet 'proto slasher' a whirl.

In short, Drive-In Massacre isn't very good. Yet it holds a particular charm that takes it away from being an full-fat, high calorie stinker.

The film is very much a boring cop procedure with a few gory kills and Z Core smut thrown in. However there are elements that make the film engrossing and, upon reflection, appear ahead of it's time, even so far as shaping and influencing the very many splatter and slasher films that would flood the late 1970's and throughout the 1980's and beyond to today.

Drive-In Massacre opens with flower power-esque music over a montage of patrons arriving at a drive-in theatre. Simple stuff, but it instantly throws you off thinking that the credit sequence would be more sinister in tone. It kind of reminded me a bit of Last House On The Left, just with more upbeat music.

Acting is virtually non-existent along with any real plot, though the ending is a great and almost comedic twist. Kills are few and far between but when they arrive they are, for their time and the size budget, rather graphic and don't hold back. Watching the interviews on the Blu Ray afterwards gave some great insight in to the inventiveness that was called upon that helped the crew to get this film done, on a miniscule budget too.

What we have in Drive-In Massacre is a pretty terrible film, but one that certainly has earned a place in the annals of cinema history. The influences in films that came after this one are plentiful and varied. Don't dismiss Drive-In Massacre. It is what it is. Sub par hokum. But without it, many a modern film would be lost.
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 Post subject: Re: What have you been watching?
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Since Christmas is coming up, it's time to start watching Christmas movies so....



...on HD-DVD no less!
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PostPosted: 20 Nov 2020, 23:50 
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My head is spinning from Sean Connery in ZARDOZ circa 1973. A John Boorman film.
What a head trip....
Zeta, correct me if I am wrong, this production falls into the "tripping balls" genre.....

Had to watch it again to attempt to get my mind around what the message was....
Still struggling.....
My old brain is not as elastic as once was lmao !

If any members like distopian futuristic movies.... CHECK OUT "ZARDOZ"

cheers mates,

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 Post subject: Re: What have you been watching?
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may have to watch that one again, one of the first 15 LDs my father bought new widescreen.
crazy film, one of my favorite.
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PostPosted: 21 Nov 2020, 03:20 
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You guys are acting like you don’t watch Zardoz every night.

I love this movie. You have to be comfortable with the fact that it’s more weird and dumb than it is brilliant scifi but once you’re comfortable with that it’s a blast. I love how earnest it is. People are too afraid to look stupid nowadays.

One of my favorite rappers is POS of Doomtree and one of the many reasons I like him is that he once referenced this movie with the seeming non-sequitor “god barfs guns.” I wish I could remember what song that was...
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PostPosted: 21 Nov 2020, 03:47 
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signofzeta wrote:
People are too afraid to look stupid nowadays.

Thousand times this. No major motion picture studio today would make a movie as earnestly hokey as the 1980 Flash Gordon for example.
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PostPosted: 21 Nov 2020, 04:40 
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takeshi666 wrote:
signofzeta wrote:
People are too afraid to look stupid nowadays.

Thousand times this. No major motion picture studio today would make a movie as earnestly hokey as the 1980 Flash Gordon for example.


I don’t know. They made Cats and that thing is quad dumb as Flash. If it’s officially gay canon then it’s OK, I guess. This was dumb and new though.

I guess what I meant with Zardoz is...well, the plot is *really* similar to stuff kids say when they get effed up on something for the first time. Or it’s a bunch of 60s scifi half remembered and ripped off by some sort of 1970s Joe Rogan. I don’t know. It’s dumb, but it wants to be smart, and a guy will wear a red diaper to get the point across. It’s not common. I respect the enthusiasm.
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PostPosted: 21 Nov 2020, 11:01 
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signofzeta wrote:
You guys are acting like you don’t watch Zardoz every night.

I love this movie. You have to be comfortable with the fact that it’s more weird and dumb than it is brilliant scifi but once you’re comfortable with that it’s a blast. I love how earnest it is. People are too afraid to look stupid nowadays.

One of my favorite rappers is POS of Doomtree and one of the many reasons I like him is that he once referenced this movie with the seeming non-sequitor “god barfs guns.” I wish I could remember what song that was...



You may be on to something zeta, I need to watch ZARDOZ every night for stretch and see what happens.

If I go dark, I was committed and am resting quietly in some institution singing the ballad of Dwight Frye LmAo !

Seriously, I do like the film, it just took me for a loop with the abstract nature.
Absolutely loved the introduction with the floating head explanations of "reality" ! ! !

I burned a copy to share and reccomended it to a few friends in memory of Mr. Connery.......
Cannot believe that crazy Scott went from 007 to ZARDOZ Disciple.....

What a mind job first watching it ! And I am a fan of WEIRD stuff !
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 Post subject: Re: What have you been watching?
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Watched Strangers On A Train and North By Northwest over the past couple of nights.

Not seen either before and enjoyed both. North By Northwest is my preferred choice of the two. Strangers On A Train was very good too and I think would make for a potentially very good modern interpretation. Not some turgid Hollywood reboot fiesta, but some sort of serious, bleak and unforgiving NC-17 rated Scandinavian version.
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signofzeta wrote:
I don’t know. It’s dumb, but it wants to be smart, and a guy will wear a red diaper to get the point across. It’s not common. I respect the enthusiasm.

Well if you really want to boil the movie down to just the message it's trying to send (immortality = bad) then yeah, it is kind of dumb. But that's not really all there is to it, is it?

I remember reading the movie was very well received in literary science fiction circles, because it is very similar to literary science fiction. Is it really any dumber than, say, The Fantastic Planet?
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Fantastic Planet is animated so it will probably always look less dumb than a real guy in a real diaper. I’ll treasure both forever though.
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1st I never knew it was a diaper or thought of it as a diaper until I heard about it around 2012.

2nd at that same time there was a movie guy, the one i've mentioned before who didn't have his tv setup correctly with refresh rate.
anyway he never saw Zardoz and I was the one to introduce him and an entire group of people at the time to this classic film
with a Zardoz party.
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ZARDOZ.

Must be about 30 years since I watched that one, now perhaps time to give it another view.

The opening/introduction was apparently added by John Boorman at the request of studio execs to help the audience understand what they were about to see.....

I am Arthur Frayn, and I am Zardoz. I have lived three hundred years, and I long to die. But death is no longer possible. I am immortal. I present now my story, full of mystery and intrigue - rich in irony, and most satirical. It is set deep in a possible future, so none of these events have yet occurred, but they may. Be warned, lest you end as I. In this tale, I am a fake god by occupation - and a magician, by inclination. Merlin is my hero! I am the puppet master. I manipulate many of the characters and events you will see. But I am invented, too, for your entertainment - and amusement. And you, poor creatures, who conjured you out of the clay? Is God in show business too?

The part played by Sean Connery was originally offered to Burt Reynolds but he apparently had to pull out before shooting started due to an injury or ill health at the time.

When I last watched this it was on VHS with a couple of friends & when it ended one of the chaps said "can someone tell me what have we just watched, that was a mind-fu+k that was."

Looks like I will be giving ZARDOZ a another viewing soon - looking forward to seeing it again.

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Je280 thanks for posting that intro !

Great to know it was a late add on ! ! !

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