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Post subject: Re: Mad Max Fury Road  Posted: 15 May 2015, 14:07 |
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you think it will ever be reliesed on LD? which one is the best of them all? is it better than 1st and 2 part?
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Post subject: Re: Mad Max Fury Road  Posted: 15 May 2015, 14:33 |
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carlosthejackal wrote: you think it will ever be reliesed on LD? which one is the best of them all? is it better than 1st and 2 part? Objectively I think its better than Mad Max 2, but I have a lot of personal nostalgia for that film so I like them equally. Frankly I always enjoyed all 3 (the first half of Thunderdome is very entertaining). An LD release would be awesome for such an "analog" film. The lack of CGI in this is very welcome. Its there for sure, but just to enhance the practical effects/stunts.
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Post subject: Re: Mad Max Fury Road  Posted: 17 May 2015, 10:36 |
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I am really thinking to go to the cinema, though I have my prejudices..I always wanted to see Mel gibson in a 4th installment of the MM Series, but since he is outlawed in Hollywood that´s just a wish . I watched the trailer and it looked much like cgi to me (well, as I didn´t actually see the whole movie, I just can guess). I really hoped for a fourth part, with an (of course) older Mel/Max taking his revenge to an over-excessive point  , he could have done that, as an actor. Now I´m really curious what this 4th part will bring.. edit: Of course, nothing beats the first Mad Max..
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Post subject: Re: Mad Max Fury Road  Posted: 18 May 2015, 18:03 |
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firehorse_44 wrote: Enjoyed Fury Road ..... Lot of blood, sweat, and tears went into this non-stop action movie.....
Interesting story, would like to have seen more background regarding where they took off from ........ Supposedly Vertigo is releasing some prequel comics and there was intended to be an anime style prequel film showing the backstory of Furiosa. Obviously that does not do much to flesh out the story of the actual film, but it would provide some backstory for the hardcore fan. I will say you have to commend George Miller for creating this world. The biggest complaint I have read is that folks wanted more of the story but that they found the world very appealing. I am hoping the film continues to perform well and we get some sequels. Indications are that is going to happen.
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Post subject: Re: Mad Max Fury Road  Posted: 24 May 2015, 22:26 |
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Went to see it just tonight... No offence ... but what is the story about? I missed the  looking Max from time to time. Hated to see the car get destroyed (again) It is an action adventure like no other but storywise.... Charlize looked a bit on the cheap side compared to the other girls  On the other side Non stop action 
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Post subject: Re: Mad Max Fury Road  Posted: 25 May 2015, 10:06 |
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admin wrote: Was checking my watch during the movie to see how far the ending was. Not a good sign. THat doesn't sound good at all, I've been following the production to come true with very mixed feelings and kinda liked the trailer but if actual movie is just the same continuous bombing blown out to full 90 minutes I doubt it can make up the expectations at least for me. I know, the original movies aren't really the most intellectual pieces either, but it would be nice to find out a bit more about the origins of dystopian society than what's the maximum speed the desert buggy can achieve during the escape run.
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Post subject: Re: Mad Max Fury Road  Posted: 25 May 2015, 19:12 |
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bifrostbear wrote: I am of a split mind on this one. The action was well done and there was a lot of it. So for that alone it worth the price of admission (although we only paid $5 a ticket for the matinee).
On the other hand I have a lot of trouble seeing this as a Mad Max movie. It doesn't fit in the timeline previous established by the original trilogy. And a lot of the vehicles were so goofy that the movie seemed like a caricature of "The Road Warrior" (my favorite of the original trilogy - actually one of my favorite movies of all time). Plus the unexplained things in the plot - like the mothers milk - where (and why) were they transporting it in an unrefridgerated vehicle? Sadly they just seemed to be cashing in on the name recognition of Mad Max while not firmly tying it in to the other three - they could have used any name and probably would have been better off doing so. I always felt the original 3 stood on their own and made only slight nods to the other films. Also the cause of the apocalypse is never explicitly mentioned (mainly hinted to be nuclear war). I also felt that George Miller was most interested in telling a story anyone could watch despite language barriers, hence the lack of dialogue. So yeah the story is thin, but The Road Warrior is pretty thin too (heck they started shooting that film without a script, making it up as they went). That does not hinder it from achieving greatness. I sometimes think audiences today want this massive continuity ala Avengers, Star Wars, etc. The Mad Max films are the antithesis of that. More like a samurai film or spaghetti western. So in that sense Fury Road is a very old school film IMO
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Post subject: Re: Mad Max Fury Road  Posted: 25 May 2015, 21:22 |
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dunerider wrote: I always felt the original 3 stood on their own and made only slight nods to the other films. Also the cause of the apocalypse is never explicitly mentioned (mainly hinted to be nuclear war). I also felt that George Miller was most interested in telling a story anyone could watch despite language barriers, hence the lack of dialogue.
So yeah the story is thin, but The Road Warrior is pretty thin too (heck they started shooting that film without a script, making it up as they went). That does not hinder it from achieving greatness.
I sometimes think audiences today want this massive continuity ala Avengers, Star Wars, etc. The Mad Max films are the antithesis of that. More like a samurai film or spaghetti western.
So in that sense Fury Road is a very old school film IMO
To me the biggest clue to at least a limited nuclear exchange in the Mad Max universe is the use (albeit very briefly) of a geiger counter in Thunderdome. Doesn't really matter a whole lot as long as you accept that there was a catastrophic breakdown of society (probably worldwide). IMHO the original three had much more internal consistency (in terms of being possible) and to each other despite being very different films from each other than Fury Road did. (This is not to say that everything in the first films could have happened - the weapon throw that killed Pappagallo was impossible as was the manner of the removal of the spear from Pig Killer.) Things don't have to have a massive continuity - look at the changes that Star Trek has had (much of it due to increasingly larger budgets and real life technology) even if you restrict yourself to the core characters milieu. With a bit of work the continuity could have been maintained - the V-8 Interceptor need not have been involved in the chase (it did not add much to the film except for a passing (as it were) reference to Thunderdome) and Max could have retrieved it at the end and rode off into the sunset with a full tank of juice. This would have firmly put the film (timewise) between the first two. Just wouldn't have been that hard.
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Post subject: Re: Mad Max Fury Road  Posted: 25 May 2015, 21:54 |
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dunerider wrote: I sometimes think audiences today want this massive continuity ala Avengers, Star Wars, etc. Dunno about that, obviously I can't really judge the movie before seeing it and I for one don't have issues with straightforwarding movies but from my point of view the whole Mad Max experience personates so strongly to main character that the fact Mel ain't involved is already a letdown very hard to get over, so I really hope they at least tried to make proper effort to tie Fury Road to original trilogy in some other way(s) to put a patch on that wound. If not, it could be - like bitfrostbear already said - given whatever name just by editing different title card in.
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Post subject: Re: Mad Max Fury Road  Posted: 25 May 2015, 22:49 |
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bifrostbear wrote: dunerider wrote: I always felt the original 3 stood on their own and made only slight nods to the other films. Also the cause of the apocalypse is never explicitly mentioned (mainly hinted to be nuclear war). I also felt that George Miller was most interested in telling a story anyone could watch despite language barriers, hence the lack of dialogue.
So yeah the story is thin, but The Road Warrior is pretty thin too (heck they started shooting that film without a script, making it up as they went). That does not hinder it from achieving greatness.
I sometimes think audiences today want this massive continuity ala Avengers, Star Wars, etc. The Mad Max films are the antithesis of that. More like a samurai film or spaghetti western.
So in that sense Fury Road is a very old school film IMO
To me the biggest clue to at least a limited nuclear exchange in the Mad Max universe is the use (albeit very briefly) of a geiger counter in Thunderdome. Doesn't really matter a whole lot as long as you accept that there was a catastrophic breakdown of society (probably worldwide). IMHO the original three had much more internal consistency (in terms of being possible) and to each other despite being very different films from each other than Fury Road did. (This is not to say that everything in the first films could have happened - the weapon throw that killed Pappagallo was impossible as was the manner of the removal of the spear from Pig Killer.) Things don't have to have a massive continuity - look at the changes that Star Trek has had (much of it due to increasingly larger budgets and real life technology) even if you restrict yourself to the core characters milieu. With a bit of work the continuity could have been maintained - the V-8 Interceptor need not have been involved in the chase (it did not add much to the film except for a passing (as it were) reference to Thunderdome) and Max could have retrieved it at the end and rode off into the sunset with a full tank of juice. This would have firmly put the film (timewise) between the first two. Just wouldn't have been that hard. You are right about the Geiger counter bit. There is also talk of the two northern tribes going to war, which I always assumed meant a nuclear exchange between Russia and the USA. But even in the old films George Miller made choices that mess with fans of continuity. I always looked at the odd addition of Bruce Spence in Thunderdome. He plays a similar character to the Gyro Captain from Mad Max 2 called Jedediah. I remember somewhere George Miller clearly states those are separate characters, even though many fans (including me) always assumed they were the same. Little things like that make me think George Miller is not overly concerned with continuity. In the end I personally never thought these movies ever provided great stories but just the basic wandering hero trope with some stellar action. So in that sense I felt Fury Road delivered, at least for me personally. As to Mel, I agree somewhat. Max is a quiet guy so one film with limited dialogue is not going to give Tom Hardy much room to give his own spin on the character. In the end its all a matter of taste and I completely see where you are coming from. I loved the new film and I think its success will give George Miller more opportunities to flesh out his world in future movies. But I think we can all agree that what Fury Road REALLY needed was Tina Turner 
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Post subject: Re: Mad Max Fury Road  Posted: 25 May 2015, 23:13 |
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dunerider wrote: You are right about the Geiger counter bit. There is also talk of the two northern tribes going to war, which I always assumed meant a nuclear exchange between Russia and the USA. But even in the old films George Miller made choices that mess with fans of continuity. I always looked at the odd addition of Bruce Spence in Thunderdome. He plays a similar character to the Gyro Captain from Mad Max 2 called Jedediah. I remember somewhere George Miller clearly states those are separate characters, even though many fans (including me) always assumed they were the same. Little things like that make me think George Miller is not overly concerned with continuity. In the end I personally never thought these movies ever provided great stories but just the basic wandering hero trope with some stellar action. So in that sense I felt Fury Road delivered, at least for me personally. As to Mel, I agree somewhat. Max is a quiet guy so one film with limited dialogue is not going to give Tom Hardy much room to give his own spin on the character. In the end its all a matter of taste and I completely see where you are coming from. I loved the new film and I think its success will give George Miller more opportunities to flesh out his world in future movies. But I think we can all agree that what Fury Road REALLY needed was Tina Turner  IIRC the prologue by the Feral Kid to The Road Warrior references two great warrior tribes - but still clearly the US and USSR. Bruce Spence's different roles never bothered me (quite the contrary since I like his acting) since the Feral Kid's ending dialogue states that the Gryo Captain became their leader and that he (the FK) never met the warrior Max again so we can assume the Gyro Captain never met him again either. (This where the Feral Kid mentions that he eventually becomes leader of the great northern tribe (or maybe tribes) .) Although much more minor characters, the presence of Max Fairchild in two (likely) different roles in the first two didn't bother me either. Tina was great! As was her singing the main theme.
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Post subject: Re: Mad Max Fury Road  Posted: 26 May 2015, 00:17 |
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bifrostbear wrote: dunerider wrote: You are right about the Geiger counter bit. There is also talk of the two northern tribes going to war, which I always assumed meant a nuclear exchange between Russia and the USA. But even in the old films George Miller made choices that mess with fans of continuity. I always looked at the odd addition of Bruce Spence in Thunderdome. He plays a similar character to the Gyro Captain from Mad Max 2 called Jedediah. I remember somewhere George Miller clearly states those are separate characters, even though many fans (including me) always assumed they were the same. Little things like that make me think George Miller is not overly concerned with continuity. In the end I personally never thought these movies ever provided great stories but just the basic wandering hero trope with some stellar action. So in that sense I felt Fury Road delivered, at least for me personally. As to Mel, I agree somewhat. Max is a quiet guy so one film with limited dialogue is not going to give Tom Hardy much room to give his own spin on the character. In the end its all a matter of taste and I completely see where you are coming from. I loved the new film and I think its success will give George Miller more opportunities to flesh out his world in future movies. But I think we can all agree that what Fury Road REALLY needed was Tina Turner  IIRC the prologue by the Feral Kid to The Road Warrior references two great warrior tribes - but still clearly the US and USSR. Bruce Spence's different roles never bothered me (quite the contrary since I like his acting) since the Feral Kid's ending dialogue states that the Gryo Captain became their leader and that he (the FK) never met the warrior Max again so we can assume the Gyro Captain never met him again either. (This where the Feral Kid mentions that he eventually becomes leader of the great northern tribe (or maybe tribes) .) Although much more minor characters, the presence of Max Fairchild in two (likely) different roles in the first two didn't bother me either. Tina was great! As was her singing the main theme. Agreed. Any reason to put Bruce Spence in a movie is good enough for me. I guess my point was that in films that emphasize continuity, the creators would never make a move like that for fear of confusing audiences. The "We Don't Need Another Hero" track was on frequent playback on my phone ramping up to the new film. Great song and she was great in Thunderdome.
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